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Predictions for 2008.
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
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Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Pac picking himself up from the canvas twice against MAB? ??? :lolololol: That just made my day.
In 2008, Pac will take care of JMM, Soto, and Guzman. Then he'll move up in weight in 09 to face JD.
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My boldest prediction for 08' is that Joan Guzman is king of the 130lbers and is P4P top 3.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it\'d be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they\'d sure give him fits. He\'d be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren\'t you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you\'ll realise they\'d all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct \"boxers\" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am\'s, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p\'s everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
When exactly did Whitaker duck Tszyu? That\'s just foolish to say.
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Slow and ponderous against Judah, it was like a lamb to the slaughter and apart from one uppercut and a clumsy flurry across the ring in the first round what did Judah do in that fight except get flattened?
Witter wouldn't last much longer. If KT cameback now he would still take Witter in less than two rounds
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
This took me a while to get together as I wanted to put some thought into it....
I think it's a really good topic and CC#90 egale for the topic. 8)
Here goes then a look into the year 2008.....
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- Wladdy will fight Evander and defeat him in a barnburner of a fight then he'll rematch Peter (Peter WBC Champ by now) and Wladdy will defeat him again this time via TKO. Wladdy becomes undisputed Heavy and solidifies his legacy as one of the best Heavys ever.
- BCD defeats Tarver as he outpoints him to a UD where Tarver files a complaint that he was fed one too many 'Flinestones' vitamins. ;D BCD then takes on Erdei where he wins a hard fought fight. Getting off the canvas early in the fight.
- After defeating Calzaghe, Kess moves on to fight Mundine to settle the score about this whole Champ & Super Champ bullshit and Kess this time knocks him the FWOCK OUT!!
- PBF will loose in 2008 to someone who we just didn't expect, then everyone will say he was past his best or say he didn't have his heart in it anymore or some bullshit excuse.
- Joel Julio will loose again as a Light Middleweight this time, the second he faces a Worl Class opponent.
- After defeating SSM, Cotto begins to make his was towards unifying the Welter div. his 1st victim will be whoever has the IBF belt wether it be Cintron or Clottey.
- After loosing to PBF, Hatton will find that he has no choice but to break his promise and he will fight Witter in 2008 beating him to a pulp and wining the WBC he'll defend it against Torres and then IMO he'll retire in late 2008.
- Casamayor will continue to shit allover his talent and will waste yet again the better part of 2008 not fighting. It's his own fault HE should at least find stay busy fights hes not even doing that. 'Baby Bull' will defeat 'The Kid' and then move on to fight Katsidis in mid to late 2008 where IMO Katsidis will win a thriller of a fight. Don King will automatically announce a rematch to this 'savage and spectaculous' fight the rematch tho will be held in 'Down Under'
- Jorge Linares is gonna start taring up some ass in the Feather div. I really don't see anyone there that can cause him major problems. I would say John would be his toughest opponent there.
- Rafa will win the 3rd match vs. Vasquez which will be held in Los Angeles ;D and your boy CutMeMick will be ringside for this great event. After the 3rd fight I think it will end so dramatically that this will bring on a 4th fight. :o what's the last rivalry to go to 4 or more fights? Nelson vs. Leija? Anyway at the 4th fight the Rafa win will be more clear and thus end one of the biggest boxing rivalries of all time along side, Chacon vs. Limon, Duran vs. De Jesus, Bowe vs. Holyfield, Ortiz vs. Laguna and many others.
- Mijares will fight Montiel in 2008 in another classic skills vs. skills fight where both fighters operate like machines and make sooo little mistakes. Something along the lines of Cazares vs. Calderon. I think Mijares soutpaw style will be too much for anyone and Mijares will reign supreme there thru 2008.
- Ulises Solis will rematch Edgar Sosa. Solis just slightly edged out a win over Sosa in 2003 as he floored Sosa 2 times to put him slightly ahead. Sosa had won soo many clear rounds that even the 2 knockdowns some people think weren't enough to merit him the win. Now that both are Champs in the Light Flyweight div. Sosa the WBC and Solis the IBF. This potential rematch here can take us back to Gonzalez vs. Carbajal days.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
Whitaker never ever ducked Tszyu i don't know where you heard that from but its incorrect.
Mosley was at Welterweight in 2000 and Tszyu wasn't that big of a name only thing he had really done at that point was stop an ancient Chavez so unless Mosley moved down it wouldn't of happened but there were so many bigger names and bigger money to be made that Tszyu wasn't really worth it at that time.
And its basically the same for Oscar he moved up to Welterweight in 1997 and there were so many big fights to be made that moving down to face Tszyu was not worth it.
I certainly don't class that as being ducked.
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I would also like to add these.
- David Haye will loose as a Heavyweight, he'll then move down back to Cruiser and win a title there.
- Giovanni Segura will get a shot at Juan Reveco (WBA Champ) and will win that fight. He'll defend the title twice in 2008.
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
Whitaker never ever ducked Tszyu i don't know where you heard that from but its incorrect.
Mosley was at Welterweight in 2000 and Tszyu wasn't that big of a name only thing he had really done at that point was stop an ancient Chavez so unless Mosley moved down it wouldn't of happened but there were so many bigger names and bigger money to be made that Tszyu wasn't really worth it at that time.
And its basically the same for Oscar he moved up to Welterweight in 1997 and there were so many big fights to be made that moving down to face Tszyu was not worth it.
I certainly don't class that as being ducked.
I don't know about that ICE, Whitaker was near the end when Tszyu was going around, i'm sure there was no talk of them fighting but DLH and Mosley took a detour for sure, Tszyu had been a IBF champion since 1995 at 140lb and everyone knew of him. (Maybe not the fans but fighters and promoters certainly did) Both DLH and Mosley were at lighter weights than Tszyu in 1995 and 1996. DLH was at 140lb
all through 96' and Mosley was still fighting at Lightweight up until April 1999. I think both of these guys
thought a fight with Tszyu was far to dangerous a prospect at the time and they were probably right.
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Here's a few predictions...
RJJ shocks everybody by defeating the winner of Calzaghe-Kessler before losing a disputed decision against Jermaine Taylor at 168.
B-Hop is beaten badly by a fighter no ones expects to beat him as father time finally TKO's the 'Nard.
A Contender fighter wins a legitimate belt.
P. Malignaggi unifies the 140lb division, including a victory over Hatton after he is destroyed by PBF, then moves up in weight, setting the stage for a rematch with Cotto.
PBF fights SSM and is universally derided after his victory for picking yet another easy fight against a shot, over the hill fighter.
The Saddo world is twice rocked as first it is revealed that VD is infact a middle-aged accountant from upstate NY and then Danny G reveals that he is in fact the real Floyd Mayweather Jr who has just been trying to drum up hype for his fights.
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Here's a few predictions...
RJJ shocks everybody by defeating the winner of Calzaghe-Kessler before losing a disputed decision against Jermaine Taylor at 168.
B-Hop is beaten badly by a fighter no ones expects to beat him as father time finally TKO's the 'Nard.
A Contender fighter wins a legitimate belt.
P. Malignaggi unifies the 140lb division, including a victory over Hatton after he is destroyed by PBF, then moves up in weight, setting the stage for a rematch with Cotto.
PBF fights SSM and is universally derided after his victory for picking yet another easy fight against a shot, over the hill fighter.
The Saddo world is twice rocked as first it is revealed that VD is infact a middle-aged accountant from upstate NY and then Danny G reveals that he is in fact the real Floyd Mayweather Jr who has just been trying to drum up hype for his fights.
Saddo's is also rocked by a photo of Cutmemick with no Sunglasses on!!!!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
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David Tua will snatch up a world title in 2008 vs one of the champions hopefully Klitchko in Feb. .. Evander will get his this year vs Ibrogimov, thus the HW divison will begin to come into the light.. good things are on the horizon for HW boxing 8)
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
David Tua will snatch up a world title in 2008 vs one of the champions hopefully Klitchko in Feb. .. Evander will get his this year vs Ibrogimov, thus the HW divison will begin to come into the light.. good things are on the horizon for HW boxing 8)
I love your optimism and the fact you think that two heavyweights from the last century winning world titles now is good for boxing ;D
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
David Tua will snatch up a world title in 2008 vs one of the champions hopefully Klitchko in Feb. .. Evander will get his this year vs Ibrogimov, thus the HW divison will begin to come into the light.. good things are on the horizon for HW boxing 8)
I love your optimism and the fact you think that two heavyweights from the last century winning world titles now is good for boxing ;D
thrill factor baby ! with few exceptions the young lot is snuff . ;)
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of not apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
I am gonna try and be unbiased in my response to this cos Kostya is my favourite fighter. I think a lot of his reputation came about by the way he destroyed some good opponents. Guys like Jake Rodriguez, Ruelas, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Tackie and Hurtado are not household names but they are decent fighters and KT obliterated all of them. I feel guys like Mosely, and DLH werent scared to fight him but they probably dodged him because a fight against Tszyu was too much risk for not much gain, cos he wasnt a major draw in the US. It is a shame he didnt fight more big name opponents because then we could have seen just how good or not good he was.
In his favor he beat guys like Mitchell and Judah easier than anyone else ever has.
His fighting style was great to watch also, which probably got him more highly rated than others with similiar records.
Fair?
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of not apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
I am gonna try and be unbiased in my response to this cos Kostya is my favourite fighter. I think a lot of his reputation came about by the way he destroyed some good opponents. Guys like Jake Rodriguez, Ruelas, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Tackie and Hurtado are not household names but they are decent fighters and KT obliterated all of them. I feel guys like Mosely, and DLH werent scared to fight him but they probably dodged him because a fight against Tszyu was too much risk for not much gain, cos he wasnt a major draw in the US. It is a shame he didnt fight more big name opponents because then we could have seen just how good or not good he was.
In his favor he beat guys like Mitchell and Judah easier than anyone else ever has.
His fighting style was great to watch also, which probably got him more highly rated than others with similiar records.
Fair?
:coolclick: I think that was very fair mate. I believe he was a really good fighter but it just irks me that elite fighters like De La Hoya, Trinidad, Mosely etc have their records torn apart by people on here yet Tyszu seems to be some kind of super fighter in the eyes of most.
I don't think he's on a par with the guys mentioned above, certainly he didn't achieve nearly as much yet douchebags like Big Dan McCarthy (:fyou: ;) ) can come out and state matter of factly that Oscar isn't even top 3 in the 154 lb division and that Forrest, Ouma and Spinks are all above him ??? and yet in the same breath call me clueless for thinking that Junior Witter and Paulie Malignaggi two of the most awkward fighters in the 140 lb weight class would have given Tyszu a hard time.
He's like Antonio Margarito in a way except it's the fight fans that hype him into being this undefeatable force rather than the promoters and media.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
I am amazed at the statement, who did he beat? Tszyu's career shows he fought nearly 50% of all his fights against world champions including a win against Juan La Porte in his 4th pro fight!
He was avoided by DLH and Mosley who both had opportunities to fight him in the 90's yet mysteriously did not (wise move) Mitchell was pretty good and had a good record until he met Tszyu, Tackie and Urkal
have been around a long time and Miguel Angel Gonzalez had only lost to DLH when he met Tszyu.
He was undisputed 140lb World Champion, you don't get to do that unless you are very, very good!
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of not apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
I am gonna try and be unbiased in my response to this cos Kostya is my favourite fighter. I think a lot of his reputation came about by the way he destroyed some good opponents. Guys like Jake Rodriguez, Ruelas, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Tackie and Hurtado are not household names but they are decent fighters and KT obliterated all of them. I feel guys like Mosely, and DLH werent scared to fight him but they probably dodged him because a fight against Tszyu was too much risk for not much gain, cos he wasnt a major draw in the US. It is a shame he didnt fight more big name opponents because then we could have seen just how good or not good he was.
In his favor he beat guys like Mitchell and Judah easier than anyone else ever has.
His fighting style was great to watch also, which probably got him more highly rated than others with similiar records.
Fair?
:coolclick: I think that was very fair mate. I believe he was a really good fighter but it just irks me that elite fighters like De La Hoya, Trinidad, Mosely etc have their records torn apart by people on here yet Tyszu seems to be some kind of super fighter in the eyes of most.
I don't think he's on a par with the guys mentioned above, certainly he didn't achieve nearly as much yet douchebags like Big Dan McCarthy (:fyou: ;) ) can come out and state matter of factly that Oscar isn't even top 3 in the 154 lb division and that Forrest, Ouma and Spinks are all above him ??? and yet in the same breath call me clueless for thinking that Junior Witter and Paulie Malignaggi two of the most awkward fighters in the 140 lb weight class would have given Tyszu a hard time.
He's like Antonio Margarito in a way except it's the fight fans that hype him into being this undefeatable force rather than the promoters and media.
I think he had a lot more talent than Margarito, and a 1999 tszyu would have beaten Witter and Paulie easily, but yeah i think the fact he didnt fight some other big names meant it was hard to judge just how good he was. This could be good for him, or bad. Good cos if he'd fought Mosely, Mayweather, DLH he might have been beaten easily and this could have stuffed his legacy, on the other hand if he'd beaten one or two of these guys he could be an ATG. Hard to say.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
He beat an old Chavez he also had good victory over Diosbelys Hurtado who had floored Pernell Whitaker twice and was ahead in the fight until Whitaker stopped him in the 11th.
And few other names like.
Juan La Porte
Roger Mayweather
Rafael Ruelas
Few decent names but i agree he never did beat a great.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
I am amazed at the statement, who did he beat? Tszyu's career shows he fought nearly 50% of all his fights against world champions including a win against Juan La Porte in his 4th pro fight!
He was avoided by DLH and Mosley who both had opportunities to fight him in the 90's yet mysteriously did not (wise move) Mitchell was pretty good and had a good record until he met Tszyu, Tackie and Urkal
have been around a long time and Miguel Angel Gonzalez had only lost to DLH when he met Tszyu.
He was undisputed 140lb World Champion, you don't get to do that unless you are very, very good!
But his record doesn't match up to someone like Oscar, Floyd, Castillo, Mosely, Trinidad etc.
The biggest name on his record is Zab Judah. Then an ageing Chavez.
His actual record isn't a whole lot better than Margarito's barring Tony's early career losses. Margarito lost to Santos, Kosta lost to Phillips. Tyszu destroyed Judah, Margarito destroyed Cintron. Guys like Clottey, Lujan, Lewis are comparable to Tackie, Lejia, Mitchell etc. Tyszu quit on his stool against unbeaten Hatton, Margarito lost a close UD to unbeaten Paul Williams.
Tyszu's record is clearly better, he unified the 140 division whilst Margarito has not been able to do the same but they are in the same ball park.
Yet many on here will quite happily post that Margarito is garbage but Tszyu is just sacrosanct.
I'm asking for parity that's all. ;)
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
He beat an old Chavez he also had good victory over Diosbelys Hurtado who had floored Pernell Whitaker twice and was ahead in the fight until Whitaker stopped him in the 11th.
And few other names like.
Juan La Porte
Roger Mayweather
Rafael Ruelas
Few decent names but i agree he never did beat a great.
:coolclick: Got to give you credit my young man your fight knowledge is starting to rival Britkid now ;)
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
2008, Pavlik (the new champ) will unify the mw division.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
He beat an old Chavez he also had good victory over Diosbelys Hurtado who had floored Pernell Whitaker twice and was ahead in the fight until Whitaker stopped him in the 11th.
And few other names like.
Juan La Porte
Roger Mayweather
Rafael Ruelas
Few decent names but i agree he never did beat a great.
:coolclick: Got to give you credit my young man your fight knowledge is starting to rival Britkid now ;)
:coolclick: back mate im nowhere near Britkids level yet but i can tell you something since coming here my boxing knowledge and believe it or not reading skills have got about 10 times better.
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
I am amazed at the statement, who did he beat? Tszyu's career shows he fought nearly 50% of all his fights against world champions including a win against Juan La Porte in his 4th pro fight!
He was avoided by DLH and Mosley who both had opportunities to fight him in the 90's yet mysteriously did not (wise move) Mitchell was pretty good and had a good record until he met Tszyu, Tackie and Urkal
have been around a long time and Miguel Angel Gonzalez had only lost to DLH when he met Tszyu.
He was undisputed 140lb World Champion, you don't get to do that unless you are very, very good!
But his record doesn't match up to someone like Oscar, Floyd, Castillo, Mosely, Trinidad etc.
The biggest name on his record is Zab Judah. Then an ageing Chavez.
His actual record isn't a whole lot better than Margarito's barring Tony's early career losses. Margarito lost to Santos, Kosta lost to Phillips. Tyszu destroyed Judah, Margarito destroyed Cintron. Guys like Clottey, Lujan, Lewis are comparable to Tackie, Lejia, Mitchell etc. Tyszu quit on his stool against unbeaten Hatton, Margarito lost a close UD to unbeaten Paul Williams.
Tyszu's record is clearly better, he unified the 140 division whilst Margarito has not been able to do the same but they are in the same ball park.
Yet many on here will quite happily post that Margarito is garbage but Tszyu is just sacrosanct.
I'm asking for parity that's all. ;)
I think when half of your total fighting record is against World Champions then you have parity.
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I still dont believe that Margarito has as good a record as Tszyu, and i think anyone who does think that he does would have a hard time selling their idea on here. Good luck tho. ;D
Anyway back to predictions.
Billy Dib adds his name as another top fighter at 130, by defeating some good opponents at that weight.
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
He beat an old Chavez he also had good victory over Diosbelys Hurtado who had floored Pernell Whitaker twice and was ahead in the fight until Whitaker stopped him in the 11th.
And few other names like.
Juan La Porte
Roger Mayweather
Rafael Ruelas
Few decent names but i agree he never did beat a great.
:coolclick: Got to give you credit my young man your fight knowledge is starting to rival Britkid now ;)
:coolclick: back mate im nowhere near Britkids level yet but i can tell you something since coming here my boxing knowledge and believe it or not reading skills have got about 10 times better.
Would be nice if you could develop some patriotism. ;)
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Re: Predictions for 2008.
I actually completely agree with Bilbo. I've said the same things about Tsyzu before.
Doesn't mean I dislike him or don't rate him, I do think KT was a great fighter and I don't think that just because he didn't get to fight some of the better guys doesn't mean he might not have beat them. But its hilarious to me how much some people's records are picked apart, while some guys tend to get a pass, there's just no consistency. Look at how many people pick apart Floyd's resume-compare Floyd and KT's records and the level of opposition is not even relatively close.
I said I totally agree with Bilbo but actually guys like Witter and Malignaggi are kinda made for Tsyzu. He always looked his best against boxers, it was when he couldn't control the pace of a fight that he got into trouble.
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Now these are some things that i can see happening next year. Probably all wrong.
But here goes.
Joe Calzaghe defeats Kessler in a close, (some say hometown) decision, he then makes a much anticipated and overdue match against Roy Jones, who destroys Tito Trinidad in 5 rounds. Kessler fights a returning from eye injury Anthony Mundine, and Tito retires again.
After a tough battle against Ricky Hatton that he wins, Floyd Mayweather fights Mguel Cotto who has just won a war against Shane Mosely, and proved himself a top dog at 147. Mosely puts his frienship with Oscar DLH on hold and they match up in a third fight then both retire. Hatton moves back down to 140 and fights Junior Witter in the UK in front of a huge crowd.
Kelly Pavlik defeats Jermain Taylor in a close fight where both are knocked down once. Straight away a rematch is announced.
Manny Pac wins a great fight against Marco Antonio Barrera where he has to come off the canvas twice early to dominate the latter rounds and win via tko in the 12th. Barrera retires for a short time, Pac makes a match up with lightweight champ Juan Diaz.
Those are the scenarios i have dreamt up. Anyone disagree or wanna add something?
Good dreaming there Eagle, I think Kessler will beat Calzaghe and a rematch will be made immediately for March/April next year. Mayweather will fight Cotto in April/May, Pavlik will beat Taylor and a rematch is made. Jones jr will KO Tito and go to Australia to fight a recovering Mundine.
Hatton will stay at 147lb and fight Judah at some point. Tszyu will come out of retirement and fight Witter at 140lb and win by KO in the first!!! S**t, it was me who was dreaming! ;D
Can u imagine prime KT against the current crop of 140 pounders? it'd be brutal! Malignaggi, and Witter would be Taylor made for Kostya to KTFO.
Malignaggi and Witter are actually taylor made to frustrate the hell out of Tyszu. Look how slow and ponderous he looked against Zab before Zab got careless.
Not sure if Witter or Malignaggi beat a prime Tyszu (malignaggi not enough power, Witter might be too negative) but they'd sure give him fits. He'd be chasing shadows especially against Witter.
Clueless aren't you mate, watch some Kostya Tszyu fights and you'll realise they'd all be dead meat. Witter and Malignaggi pull away after they throw a shot, thats how Tszyu handled so many technically correct "boxers" with that point scoring style, both pro and amateur. Watch him serve up Vernon Forrest in the am's, he has the perfect style to derail boxers, that is why he was so highly regarded in The Ring and p4p's everywhere for years.
Why do you think everyone ducked him for years, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker....
I must admit I don't care for Tszyu much. It's ironic to me that a guy like De La Hoya has his record picked to shreads with some people saying he's not even a great yet Kosta fought practically nobody of note apart from Zab Judah.
He's praised for beating guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie and Oktay Urkal.
Apart from Zab who did he actually beat?
He beat an old Chavez he also had good victory over Diosbelys Hurtado who had floored Pernell Whitaker twice and was ahead in the fight until Whitaker stopped him in the 11th.
And few other names like.
Juan La Porte
Roger Mayweather
Rafael Ruelas
Few decent names but i agree he never did beat a great.
:coolclick: Got to give you credit my young man your fight knowledge is starting to rival Britkid now ;)
:coolclick: back mate im nowhere near Britkids level yet but i can tell you something since coming here my boxing knowledge and believe it or not reading skills have got about 10 times better.
Would be nice if you could develop some patriotism. ;)
I have already answered this about 4 times.
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I actually completely agree with Bilbo. I've said the same things about Tsyzu before.
Doesn't mean I dislike him or don't rate him, I do think KT was a great fighter and I don't think that just because he didn't get to fight some of the better guys doesn't mean he might not have beat them. But its hilarious to me how much some people's records are picked apart, while some guys tend to get a pass, there's just no consistency. Look at how many people pick apart Floyd's resume-compare Floyd and KT's records and the level of opposition is not even relatively close.
I said I totally agree with Bilbo but actually guys like Witter and Malignaggi are kinda made for Tsyzu. He always looked his best against boxers, it was when he couldn't control the pace of a fight that he got into trouble.
Thanks man, that's you El Gamo and Big H who all agreed with on the same day :o
I'm not saying Tsyzu couldn't beat Malignaggi or Witter, as I said in my original post I don't think Malignaggi would have the power to keep Tzsyu off him and Witter would probably be too negative.
What I said though was no way these two get blasted out by Tyszu in a couple rounds like the poster I was debating with claimed.
Paulie and Witter ain't walkovers for anybody. Malignaggi gave Cotto one of his hardest fights and Witter is just a stylistic nightmare for anyone.
