Jorge Arce will be fighting Nonito Donaire, the right handed version of Christian Mijares. Only this time Arce will get KTFO.
God I hope this fight happens!
http://philboxing.com/news/story-12758.html
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Jorge Arce will be fighting Nonito Donaire, the right handed version of Christian Mijares. Only this time Arce will get KTFO.
God I hope this fight happens!
http://philboxing.com/news/story-12758.html
I agree Arce will most likely get stopped if this happens.. But, you have to give him mad respect for taking on Donaire... Arce is a warrior, and will always be exciting to watch... Especially when he shows as much spirit in taking on big fights as if does when he's in the ring. I think he'll definetly push Donaire harder than Vic did, but ultimately Nonito is just a better schooled fighter. Still, this will be a great fight, here's hoping Arce acceps and there's nothing else to it.
Totally agree with everything you said about Arce except the outcome. I don't think this fight is coming off but if it does,it'll be a close fight. Why? The thing about Mijares that gave Arce a problem,was the southpaw stance and does not apply here. Sure,Donaire is well schooled and a good fighter but I give Arce a chance here. He's certainly nowhere near as technically deficient as that also-ran Darchinyan.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
And there's no way Arce is getting KTFO.
He'll do better than Vic, at least he's not sloppy, annoying, totally lacking in skill, I could go on really.
It seems since Donaire stopped the one-dimensional Darchinyan that he's now unstoppable. Gimmie a fucking break. Donaire has a knock out percentage of 57%, yet he's suppose to knock out Arce? A fighter who hasn't been stopped in 9 years. A fighter who's looks much bigger than him. I give Donaire credit for beating Darchinyan (I predicted it). But other than that win, he's beaten nobody worth mentioning. Now he suppose to walk through Arce? If anything I think this is bad match up for Donaire. I don't think he can handle Arce's body attack. I see Arce stopping him mid-round.
I don't know about no way.... Sure Arce is tough but he's not unphasable.. I thought Mijares rocked him good several times, and he doesn't crack as hard as Donaire imo.. You probably have seen more of all these guys than I have though so I won't definetively say so.. To me though, Arce just isn't a smart fighter and he's easily lulled into counter's and set up for big shots.. Even in his fight before Mijares agaisnt that Julio Ler guy, he would often barge straight forward too squared up and get countered off the ropes.. If Ler hadn't been such a negative nancy and had a higher output, more power, etc. he could have given Arce a lot more problems than he already did. Nonito has all those things from what I saw.. I guess it's never too late for Arce to make some adjustements, if he jabbed his way in and wasn't so gung ho and squared up in his attack he'd definetly be harder to beat. Either way, KO or not, Id favour Donaire considerably.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Arce really hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning outside of Hussein either... I just think he's going to have big problems when up against a fighter with good technical skills who can counterpunch. Maybe your right though, Vic didn't exactly push Nonito and test his toughness.. If Arce is more succesful applying pressure he could break him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If Ler had let rip,he would have been caught more. Mijares rocked Arce a few times,but Arce weathered the storm. Most of your other points have been answered here:Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
CC VD,fine posting and totally agree. Donaire is a goodfighter but he is certainly getting over rated for beating a guy(Darchinyan) whom was not highly rated at all(by those who know their boxing).Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I got Donaire winning by KO mainly because Arce is a face first brawler. A big right hand from Nonito will do the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Agree....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I see Donaire going out like Rey Bumtista if he brawls with Arce
Yeah. He's going out also like "I can't spell my name right" Gonzalez if Donaire brawls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Foolish post. Donaire ain't no body puncher. And you know it. Arce has the better body attack. If anybody is going down from a body shot it's Donaire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
If you find my post foolish, then yours gotta be worst. Donaire can be a good body puncher if he chooses to. So much for better body attack for Arce when couldn't even floor Ler. Arce threw a lot of body punches, but obviously none of 'em penetrated Ler's liver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Great news!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
this would be exciting. I like Arce a lot for his courage. I'm no fan of Donaire but the way he stopped Darchinyan was impressive and beginning to like him.
i don't think this fight will happen too. i would think arce would be having second thoughts about taking on donaire. arce has difficulty against good boxers. he had problems with mijares and also last time with tomas rojas who's a wee better than average. giving arce a chance would be the theme of this fight cos he will always have that with his relentlessness and heart but nonito will always be the favorite it this fight pushes through.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Arce has stopped Rosendo Alvarez, Tomas Rojas, Joma Gamboa and Melchor Castro with body shots. Who has Donaire ever stopped with a body attack?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Donaire was impressive against Vic, but its a bit much saying he is as good as Mijares. Arce will win rounds becuase nonito is not all that busy. I see it being a close decision either way.
I never seen or heard of him dropping anyone with 1 punch KO to the body. But that doesn't mean he can't drop Arce with a liver shot. Only a naive person would doubt Donaire's ability in that category. Besides, Arce is being exposed lately bit by bit. His body shot capabilities are now starting to regress because his future opponents already know what to do with them. Face it, he's just one-dimesional fighter. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
and then you say you don't drool over Filipino fighters ::**, Arce would be a tougher test than Darchinyan, and i've said it time and time again Arce would have whooped Vic just as good as Nonito did, i'm not saying that Donaire wouldn't win against Arce but it wouldn't be any walk in the parkQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
That\'s like saying Arce can box as good as Donaire but chooses not to. Donaire has no body attack to speak off. How you going to claim he even has that ability if he\'s never shown it? He can box, sure. But I don\'t seem much difference between Donaire and Hussein. I think Arce destroys Donaire pretty easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Arce boxing?... lol! good one. Donaire is a smart fighter. He fought a lot of fighters with different styles and has been successful. And oh, I never said Donaire has no body attack ??? ::**. He's been unleashing body shots too, mainly just to weaken opponents body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
Pacstraightleft,stop blindly nut hugging every Filipino fighter,especially when you have not seen alot of them/checked boxrec or have not seen enough of the opponent. Arce does box,watch the Carbajal fight. And please,tell me the fights Donaire has been unleashing his mystical body attacks so I can watch them myself.
I fully agree. Donaire is the smarter fighter between the two. Donaire knows how to beautifully attack the body based on his fight with Darchinyan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Arce will be all-out again and this makes the fight exciting.
Did u even watch the Donaire/Vic fight. He outboxed Vic and Sparked him, but he did no unleash a beautiful body attack, he hardly went to the body at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
That's what happens when you read about a fight as oppose to actually watching it. You make stupid comments like this. He never went to the body!Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
regardless of what fans think, this fight will be exciting. both fighters have their own arsenals. arce will go forward and donaire will counter. its a matter of who's gonna connect well enough to do damage. but arce really needs to box more if he's trying to negate donaire's counter punching. i would love to see this fight.
I've proven again that you are wrong VD. He never went to the body? hahaha. watch the fight again. It's true that Darchinyan went down because of that left hook from Donaire but certainly there were some body shots done during that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You may ask Vic.
Just like the agapito case.....hehehe. careful buddy with your accusation.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
VD is right. Donaire may have gone to the body occasionally against vic, but none of those shots did any damage. No way is nonito as good to the body as Arce, in fact he is not a renowned body puncher at all.
There was not a single body punch by Donaire that was noteworthy at all.
when I said beautiful attack, I mean counter attack with body shots from time to time.
VD is right? He said Donaire never went to the body.and he is still right? what a laughing stock....
Maybe he went to the body, but he did no damage, so what was the point. The fact is if Arce fights nonito, Arce will be much more effective to the body than what donaire is. Laughing stockl is saying Donaire is good to the body cos he is clearly not.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
I just don't know why VD keeps on pounding me and later finding himself in deep trouble defending his accusations. can you keep your accusations, VD, to yourself and maybe watch the fight again or at least try to understand what I write?
Yes Violent was right. For anybody to claim Donaire\\\'s body attack is has affective as Arce\\\'s is down right foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
"Donaire is the smarter fighter between the two. Donaire knows how to beautifully attack the body based on his fight with Darchinyan." That's what I said. I did not say Donaire was so effective in body shots. To make it clear, I said he is smart to make those beautiful combinations. Arce is my man. Have you not noticed my prior post?
RottenApple, are you reading correctly? Did I say that Donaire's body attack is as effective as Arce? Whew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
It's easy to pound you. You leave yourself open with ignorant comments. You said Pac had no trouble with Sanchez yet one judge had Sanchez winning and the other had it a draw. You say Donaire has a great body attack, yet he's never shown it. Yet set yourself up and you don't have the knowledge to back yourself up. Your an easy mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
What the fuck? U say Donaire knows how to beautifully attack the body, then us say he is not so effective in body shots....Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
What is the difference?
Brucelee could start an arguement in a empty room ;D
And still lose itQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING