Could Any Featherweight In History Beat Salvador Sanchez ??

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very underrated featherweight was Jesse James Leija 8)... Leija was a fucking non stop machine at that weight.. you can bet your bottom dollar he would have had a chance vs any featherweight . if you can dig up some fight footage of james leija at featherweight you will enjoy.. he also had some fantastic wars with the great Azumah Nelson... Leija was very under appreciated as a fighter IMO.

Pepp
Saddler
MAB
Morales
Abe Attell
Henry Armstrong was a great featherweight

All have a shout

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

very underrated featherweight was Jesse James Leija 8)... Leija was a F****** non stop machine at that weight.. you can bet your bottom dollar he would have had a chance vs any featherweight . if you can dig up some fight footage of james leija at featherweight you will enjoy.. he also had some fantastic wars with the great Azumah Nelson... Leija was very under appreciated as a fighter IMO.

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I seen few of his fights but i'll look for some more thanks LG.

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

very underrated featherweight was Jesse James Leija 8)... Leija was a F****** non stop machine at that weight.. you can bet your bottom dollar he would have had a chance vs any featherweight . if you can dig up some fight footage of james leija at featherweight you will enjoy.. he also had some fantastic wars with the great Azumah Nelson... Leija was very under appreciated as a fighter IMO.

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I seen few of his fights but i'll look for some more thanks LG.

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most of you youngsters have seen Leija at 135 140, his best weight was 126,, Jesse James was fantastic.I seen him on many cards there in the Alamo City..a thrill ride fighter, James came to party , all out warrior ! 8)

James Leija -vs- Troy Dorsey
All out Featherweight WAR

CutmeMick , Iceman you will enjoy ! I uploaded this to megavideo so the whole fight is on onestreaming link. 8)

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V8QL1CX4

I'm sure Azumah Nelson would have gone close in a rematch, we probably would have had a trilogy there for sure. Other than Nelson, maybe Arguello, obviously legends like Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler would be a chance but i don't know... Sanchez may well be the greatest Featherweight of all time!

my boy Pacquaio has a chance.

we were waiting for that 8)

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Originally Posted by Missy

we were waiting for that 8)

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I'm so predictable.hehehe. If my boy is involved or potentially be involved, expect me to be there.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Pepp
Saddler
MAB
Morales
Abe Attell
Henry Armstrong was a great featherweight

All have a shout

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If these people mentioned by Big H has a "shout" (I think, shot), how much more my boy?

Alexis Arguello could have, mayb,
Had Sanchez Gone up to Super Feather he would have been second best to JCC.
And Pep.

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Originally Posted by brucelee

my boy Pacquaio has a chance.

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A chance yes but he would still lose ;)

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Pepp
Saddler
MAB
Morales
Abe Attell
Henry Armstrong was a great featherweight

All have a shout

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If these people mentioned by Big H has a "shout" (I think, shot), how much more my boy?

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Nah I meant "shout" and Pac doesn't belong with any of the nnames I mentioned (Yet) ;)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Pepp
Saddler
MAB
Morales
Abe Attell
Henry Armstrong was a great featherweight

All have a shout

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That is pretty good list i only crossed out Attell but overall good list mate.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Pepp
Saddler
MAB
Morales
Abe Attell
Henry Armstrong was a great featherweight

All have a shout

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If these people mentioned by Big H has a "shout" (I think, shot), how much more my boy?

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Nah I meant "shout" and Pac doesn't belong with any of the nnames I mentioned (Yet) ;)

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Without any offense, you mean Pacquaio does not belong with MAB and Morales? That's funny. Last time I checked, PAcquaio was clearly superior than them.

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Originally Posted by brucelee

my boy Pacquaio has a chance.

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A chance yes but he would still lose ;)

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Like the way you predicted Pacquaio would lose against MAB the first time they met? LOL

I'm wondering.... if MAB is next to Salvador Sanchez in terms of greatness, where will you place PAcquaio? don't tell me again that MAB was shot and was not at his peak when he fought with PAcquaio first time they met coz it's just simply disrespectful of Pacquaio. Pacquaio's first fight with MAB was in between MAB vs Morales III. Does it mean that MAB was already shot when he won that third fight against Morales?

Let's be fair here. As Saddo has said before (don't know if he was serious about it), let's place Pacquaio to the rightful spot where he belongs. It's our responsibility as true boxing fans not to be biased. Mexican or not, Pacquaio will become one of all-time greats.His name deserves mention, at the least, together with MAB and Morales.

Now as a Pacquaio fan, no one can deny me of the belief that he can win against Sanchez. Correct me if Im wrong, Sanchez was not in the p4p list during his time though I believe he would have been had he not died early. As a fact,Pacquaio is pound for pound number 2 (for some, but in increasing number, he is the pound for pound number 1). Admit it and don't hate me for saying a fact.

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I'm wondering.... if MAB is next to Salvador Sanchez in terms of greatness, where will you place PAcquaio? don't tell me again that MAB was shot and was not at his peak when he fought with PAcquaio first time they met coz it's just simply disrespectful of Pacquaio. Pacquaio's first fight with MAB was in between MAB vs Morales III. Does it mean that MAB was already shot when he won that third fight against Morales?

Let's be fair here. As Saddo has said before (don't know if he was serious about it), let's place Pacquaio to the rightful spot where he belongs. It's our responsibility as true boxing fans not to be biased. Mexican or not, Pacquaio will become one of all-time greats.His name deserves mention, at the least, together with MAB and Morales.

Now as a Pacquaio fan, no one can deny me of the belief that he can win against Sanchez. Correct me if Im wrong, Sanchez was not in the p4p list during his time though I believe he would have been had he not died early. As a fact,Pacquaio is pound for pound number 2 (for some, but in increasing number, he is the pound for pound number 1). Admit it and don't hate me for saying a fact.

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He has a point.

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Originally Posted by brucelee

my boy Pacquaio has a chance.

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A chance yes but he would still lose ;)

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Like the way you predicted Pacquaio would lose against MAB the first time they met? LOL

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Umm when did i say i predicted Pacquiao to lose first time they met ??


And if you read my comments you would know deep down i actually knew MAB would lose 2nd time aswell i was just sticking with MAB because i am loyal fan and always will be.

let's throw something else is SS that great? Surely he died long before his legacy could be truly established?

He is great. But Missy raises an important issue. He died young. This in many peoples eyes is seen as wasted potential: how great could he have been?

But it also leaves the possability of him being exposed; had he fought on a little longer would he have run into someone who could have handled him....
In my opinion he would have been decisioned had he rematched Azumah Nelson.

But these are just hypothetical opinions of mine and do not demand much thought.
He was agreat fighter and only a great fighter would have beaten him.

I think a young Nelson did very well and could well have got the UD when more experienced.

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I think a young Nelson did very well and could well have got the UD when more experienced.

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CC my train of thought exactly.

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I think a young Nelson did very well and could well have got the UD when more experienced.

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It reminded me of Holmes vs Witherspoon if i remember right Witherspoon didn't step into a gym until he was 22 then with 15 pro fights and at age 25 he was fighting Larry Holmes for World Heavyweight Championship in his finest performance and he would never reach that level again.

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let's throw something else is SS that great? Surely he died long before his legacy could be truly established?

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You struck the gold mine Missy. Salvador Sanchez had shown great potentials but he had not truly established yet his legacy. That was what I was trying to point out. cc for that.

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

career cut very short, we don't know how much better he could have been.

You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

career cut very short, we don't know how much better he could have been.

You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D

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Sanchez was getting better and better do you realize he had only few amateur fights ?? he was improving all the time the Nelson who fought Sanchez fought like a complete pro regardless of how many pro fights he had and Sanchez destroyed fighters like Danny Lopez and Wilfredo Gomez Sanchez was so skillfull had great chin and his stamina was unreal like in Nelson fight it looked like he couldn't go on then comes out for 15th round like its 1st round and stops Nelson thats what you call a true legend.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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I'm aware of that, but i never said anyone from our era was better than him.

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Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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I'm aware of that, but i never said anyone from our era was better than him.

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yes you said Hitmandonny that Pacquaio is better than him. hehehehe. mwahahaaha.peace bro. :kar:

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

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I'll cut down the coffee if you cut down the shit you've been smoking. Deal? Or are you bored already? ;D

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Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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I'm aware of that, but i never said anyone from our era was better than him.

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yes you said Hitmandonny that Pacquaio is better than him. hehehehe. mwahahaaha.peace bro. :kar:

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Now where did i say that ??? ;D ???

just joking hitman.LOL

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just joking hitman.LOL

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I no mate ;) :D
Much respect to Pac after beating Barrera.
Again: i was wrong.

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Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

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I'll cut down the coffee if you cut down the S*** you've been smoking. Deal? Or are you bored already? ;D

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You still going? I don't smoke. :)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

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I'll cut down the coffee if you cut down the S*** you've been smoking. Deal? Or are you bored already? ;D

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You still going? I don't smoke. :)

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Well,um,it appears so...and I don't drink coffee ;)

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I think a young Nelson did very well and could well have got the UD when more experienced.

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very possible.. was good match