Is Boxing The Sport Where Racism is Most Prominent?

I'm sorry but I have to rant about this. I've copped a hell of a lot of abuse from posting that press conference video up on 'youtube'. I've had 3 Brits in a row comment things like 'You're a bit of a prick for supporting Mayweather when you're from over here'. Another comment said 'England, England, England..' and the other had some more shit about me being 'turncoat'. Then I got a private message from the guy who posted the 'England, England' comment saying 'I bet you're supporting Mayweather because you're black!! Well know that our boy from england is gonna knock him the fuck out!'

This really pissed me off..Firstly I'm not black and secondly what the fuck does that have to do with it when i'm a fan of the SPORT of boxing. I really do think Boxing is probably on the levels of or even more racist than football. Just go on any video on youtube where there is an inter-racial bout and you hear the foulest words of abuse hurled at each other via the comments. 'Blacks are the best at this that and the other' or 'Mexican knocked your faggot puerto rican ass out' or equally as bullshit comments.
This is why I usually back the underdogs when football is concerned because I hate the arrogance that some countries have towards it..they view it more of a racial superiority. I'd much rather see a country like Japan win the World Cup over England because you can see how much fun they are having when they are cheering for their players and that to me is true passion and pride in your country. Not acting like a hooligan, smashing things up..getting drunk, beating the shit out of each other and spouting racist remarks. How can ANYONE call that PRIDE in their country? They're letting the country down with their arrogance and ignorance.
Boxing, although i've never witnessed a riot or fighting within the crowd, seems to be getting just as bad. Boxing isn't even supposed to be about Country vs Country is it?? Mayweather vs Hatton isn't England vs America..Mosely vs Cotto isn't Black vs Puerto Rican is it?? Some people just like to make it that way. Fair enough, have pride in your country..everybody should but not to the point where you get ignorant and arrogant. Unfortunately, the more I read from Boxing fans the more it becomes clear that the sport of boxing is heading that way.
Enjoy the SPORT of Boxing..leave the bullshit out. Have pride in your country but respect for others.
Ok rant over, feel free to post your feelings.

CC,TOTALLY AGREE!! Too many fans blindly follow a fighter just because he's their colour or from their country,rather than just liking him as a fighter. Pardon my language,but FUCK THAT. I also agree,I like watching vids on YouTUBE and used to watch them all the time but at times,some of the posts are ridiculous. Dude,I used to check Margarito videos when he was supposedly going to fight Floyd and there was just pure racism! People were not even debating who would win the fight but rather just using racist terms??!

"Not acting like a hooligan, smashing things up..getting drunk, beating the shit out of each other and spouting racist remarks. How can ANYONE call that PRIDE in their country? They're letting the country down with their arrogance and ignorance."

Dickheads that are involved in crap like this are fools. Although,1 thing I disagree with is,I think boxing has had alot of racism in it from the start. Some fights even had race as a way of promoting the fight: Larry Holmes v Gerry Cooney comes to mind. Although,sometimes,nationality is used but to a lesser extent: Calzaghe v Lacy. I don't mind that so much.

I think MMA has alot of racism. Possibly more than boxing. I read a thread on Sherdog about Anderson Silva being called "N$5^&*" by fans at an event. You could hear it. He's probably going to get alot more in the rematch with that punk Franklin. I'd love to see him flying kick the person,if he hears them chanting racist things,Cantona style! 8)

Anyway,I agree with you bro,but I think we are in the minority.I think it's common to use nationalities against each other in fights but it's dumb ass,pussy punk uneducated fans who make it more than that and it becomes an issue of racism.

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Originally Posted by Althugz

I'm sorry but I have to rant about this. I've copped a hell of a lot of abuse from posting that press conference video up on 'youtube'. I've had 3 Brits in a row comment things like 'You're a bit of a prick for supporting Mayweather when you're from over here'. Another comment said 'England, England, England..' and the other had some more S*** about me being 'turncoat'. Then I got a private message from the guy who posted the 'England, England' comment saying 'I bet you're supporting Mayweather because you're black!! Well know that our boy from england is gonna knock him the F*** out!'

This really pissed me off..Firstly I'm not black and secondly what the F*** does that have to do with it when i'm a fan of the SPORT of boxing. I really do think Boxing is probably on the levels of or even more racist than football. Just go on any video on youtube where there is an inter-racial bout and you hear the foulest words of abuse hurled at each other via the comments. 'Blacks are the best at this that and the other' or 'Mexican knocked your faggot puerto rican a** out' or equally as bullshit comments.
This is why I usually back the underdogs when football is concerned because I hate the arrogance that some countries have towards it..they view it more of a racial superiority. I'd much rather see a country like Japan win the World Cup over England because you can see how much fun they are having when they are cheering for their players and that to me is true passion and pride in your country. Not acting like a hooligan, smashing things up..getting drunk, beating the S*** out of each other and spouting racist remarks. How can ANYONE call that PRIDE in their country? They're letting the country down with their arrogance and ignorance.
Boxing, although i've never witnessed a riot or fighting within the crowd, seems to be getting just as bad. Boxing isn't even supposed to be about Country vs Country is it?? Mayweather vs Hatton isn't England vs America..Mosely vs Cotto isn't Black vs Puerto Rican is it?? Some people just like to make it that way. Fair enough, have pride in your country..everybody should but not to the point where you get ignorant and arrogant. Unfortunately, the more I read from Boxing fans the more it becomes clear that the sport of boxing is heading that way.
Enjoy the SPORT of Boxing..leave the bullshit out. Have pride in your country but respect for others.
Ok rant over, feel free to post your feelings.

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Well mate i hate RASISM OR RELIGION being involded in any sport, im a boxing fan and couldnt give a f.u.c.k if someone i wanna win is white black asian or other wise
As for people giving you sh1t for supporting Mayweather then they are just twats and you should ignore them.
;D ;D ;D ;D

Tell them fools to suck your stick.
Tell them I said they can suck my stick too. lol
Don't trip.
As long as you don't turn into Frozen Solid II who runs around with Floyds jock strap in his mouth,

you are ok in my books.
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All sports have racist tits that follow it
Just go on to any football forum,and say Black QB and hit the deck.
I dont care what race a fighter is,as long as he's good. My fave fighter is B-hop
My fave all time is Ali
Im white/cherokee
And before I get accused of reverse racism,I also adored watching Mancini fight

Dark Lord, man don't talk to me about Religion I can war for days about that! ;D I especially hate preachers in the street..it's like 'fuck you!! Why are you trying to shove your religion down people's throats?? Respect what everybody believes in and let people live their lives'

Yeah I was quite tolerant of the comments and having a laugh with their ignorance but eventually it fucking pisses you off lol. I'm done with them now though. Fuck em!

sorry - double post

Come on guys it's just trash talking and rival fan abuse it happens in EVERY sport.

Where's the threads that soccer fans are prejudiced against goalkeepers because every time they kick a ball they all go 'wooaaaaaaaahh YOURE S*** AHH!!'

If I can't take the piss out of your fighter and you can't take the piss out of mine then whats the point of being a fan at all? ???

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Come on guys it's just trash talking and rival fan abuse it happens in EVERY sport.

Where's the threads that soccer fans are prejudiced against goalkeepers because every time they kick a ball they all go 'wooaaaaaaaahh YOURE S*** AHH!!'

If I can't take the piss out of your fighter and you can't take the piss out of mine then whats the point of being a fan at all? ???

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Bilbo mate, that had nothing at all to do with my post. Rival fan abuse is healthy (if people aren't getting their heads kicked in :-\). This isn't a simple case of 'whoaaah you're shit' though is it? This is 'You like Mayweather because you're black' or 'XYZ race are better fighters than ABC race because your guy got KTFO!!'. This isn't just all good fun..this is people being ignorant and bringing the sport down. If I didn't like rival fan heat then I wouldn't be on this board in the first place. It's when people make it not about what it was supposed to be about in the first place (in this case it's supposed to be about Boxing, some fans will make it about Race and leave the boxing out).
Believe me Bilbo I have thick skin, i'm not sensitive as such to these issues but people push you.

cc for you . Im a white dude from USA and I like fighters based on how good they can trash talk and back it up not were they are from or what color they are or anything like that.

Im glad Ricky is fighting Mayweather because it brings a lot of fans from England over here and they are some of the best most exciting fans in the world. I wish I could go .

I wonder how they are going to react when PPF hands Ricky his arsh ..LOL

Anyway good post man . When it comes to boxing I usually bet on black ,except tonight .

CC for a ballsy post. I have been wanting to post something along these lines, but apparently my balls haven't dropped far enough yet and I don't like to start contention for no reason with people. Race will always be a part of all things, sad but true. I love fights and fighters, and still notice that though their are differences between races, natural or perceived, we all still bleed the same color. I am about as white as you get, with a touch of Amreican Indian blood, but I love all fighters who fight. You take a bunch of kids about 5 years old and put them alone in a sandbox together and they wouldn't care what color their playmates are; it's the parents that drive color issues into us. Be proud of who you are and treat a human as just that, everything else is b.s. If a fan of boxing hates Hatton cause' he's white or Whittaker cause' he's black or Chavez because he is Mexican, etc., then there is nothing I can do about that, to each their own. Tonight is the Pavlik/Taylor fight, which I dreamt about all night and am chomping at the bit to see. I am a big fan of both fighters, but I'll be hnest I want Kelly to win. Is it because he's white??? Yeah, I guess so, though I have always rooted for Taylor. Nothing wrong with rooting for your "people", most do, but there is no hate for Taylor. I still think JT will win and in the end I just think this will be a great fight. Race will always be an issue for alot of people, but it depends on how you treat people or think about people that matters. I judge by character, not color.

Rooting for your countrymen doesn't make you a racist.

But talking trash with racist slur is always uncool.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

CC for a ballsy post. I have been wanting to post something along these lines, but apparently my balls haven't dropped far enough yet and I don't like to start contention for no reason with people. Race will always be a part of all things, sad but true. I love fights and fighters, and still notice that though their are differences between races, natural or perceived, we all still bleed the same color. I am about as white as you get, with a touch of Amreican Indian blood, but I love all fighters who fight. You take a bunch of kids about 5 years old and put them alone in a sandbox together and they wouldn't care what color their playmates are; it's the parents that drive color issues into us. Be proud of who you are and treat a human as just that, everything else is b.s. If a fan of boxing hates Hatton cause' he's white or Whittaker cause' he's black or Chavez because he is Mexican, etc., then there is nothing I can do about that, to each their own. Tonight is the Pavlik/Taylor fight, which I dreamt about all night and am chomping at the bit to see. I am a big fan of both fighters, but I'll be hnest I want Kelly to win. Is it because he's white??? Yeah, I guess so, though I have always rooted for Taylor. Nothing wrong with rooting for your "people", most do, but there is no hate for Taylor. I still think JT will win and in the end I just think this will be a great fight. Race will always be an issue for alot of people, but it depends on how you treat people or think about people that matters. I judge by character, not color.

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Thanks, CC back dude for your kool post as well. Some good points made! :)

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Originally Posted by Althugz

I'm sorry but I have to rant about this. I've copped a hell of a lot of abuse from posting that press conference video up on 'youtube'. I've had 3 Brits in a row comment things like 'You're a bit of a prick for supporting Mayweather when you're from over here'. Another comment said 'England, England, England..' and the other had some more S*** about me being 'turncoat'. Then I got a private message from the guy who posted the 'England, England' comment saying 'I bet you're supporting Mayweather because you're black!! Well know that our boy from england is gonna knock him the F*** out!'

This really pissed me off..Firstly I'm not black and secondly what the F*** does that have to do with it when i'm a fan of the SPORT of boxing. I really do think Boxing is probably on the levels of or even more racist than football. Just go on any video on youtube where there is an inter-racial bout and you hear the foulest words of abuse hurled at each other via the comments. 'Blacks are the best at this that and the other' or 'Mexican knocked your faggot puerto rican a** out' or equally as bullshit comments.
This is why I usually back the underdogs when football is concerned because I hate the arrogance that some countries have towards it..they view it more of a racial superiority. I'd much rather see a country like Japan win the World Cup over England because you can see how much fun they are having when they are cheering for their players and that to me is true passion and pride in your country. Not acting like a hooligan, smashing things up..getting drunk, beating the S*** out of each other and spouting racist remarks. How can ANYONE call that PRIDE in their country? They're letting the country down with their arrogance and ignorance.
Boxing, although i've never witnessed a riot or fighting within the crowd, seems to be getting just as bad. Boxing isn't even supposed to be about Country vs Country is it?? Mayweather vs Hatton isn't England vs America..Mosely vs Cotto isn't Black vs Puerto Rican is it?? Some people just like to make it that way. Fair enough, have pride in your country..everybody should but not to the point where you get ignorant and arrogant. Unfortunately, the more I read from Boxing fans the more it becomes clear that the sport of boxing is heading that way.
Enjoy the SPORT of Boxing..leave the bullshit out. Have pride in your country but respect for others.
Ok rant over, feel free to post your feelings.

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Well according to Dan if i don't support Hatton or a fighter that comes from my country it means i have low family values.


I know how you feel i get this from Big Dan all the time im sick of it.

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Rooting for your countrymen doesn't make you a racist.

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I agree, definitely not.
But also, cheering for somebody not from your country doesn't make you a 'traitor' or any less proud to be from that Country.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

CC for a ballsy post. I have been wanting to post something along these lines, but apparently my balls haven't dropped far enough yet and I don't like to start contention for no reason with people. Race will always be a part of all things, sad but true. I love fights and fighters, and still notice that though their are differences between races, natural or perceived, we all still bleed the same color. I am about as white as you get, with a touch of Amreican Indian blood, but I love all fighters who fight. You take a bunch of kids about 5 years old and put them alone in a sandbox together and they wouldn't care what color their playmates are; it's the parents that drive color issues into us. Be proud of who you are and treat a human as just that, everything else is b.s. If a fan of boxing hates Hatton cause' he's white or Whittaker cause' he's black or Chavez because he is Mexican, etc., then there is nothing I can do about that, to each their own. Tonight is the Pavlik/Taylor fight, which I dreamt about all night and am chomping at the bit to see. I am a big fan of both fighters, but I'll be hnest I want Kelly to win. Is it because he's white??? Yeah, I guess so, though I have always rooted for Taylor. Nothing wrong with rooting for your "people", most do, but there is no hate for Taylor. I still think JT will win and in the end I just think this will be a great fight. Race will always be an issue for alot of people, but it depends on how you treat people or think about people that matters. I judge by character, not color.

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Thanks, CC back dude for your kool post as well. Some good points made! :)

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It's funny, cause' I don't have but a few friends, none of them white. My handful of friends are Black and 2 Mexican-American. 3 of my Black friends are coming over tonight and it will be funny cause' I already know they're rooting for Taylor, and I'm going for Pavlik. It will be a funny night cause' it will all be in good nature who we are going for in the fight, teasing each other. The good thing is that it's my house so if{when}Taylor wins and they rub it in my face I can always kick them out of my house ;D This will be fight of the year, these guys are going to go ballistic on each other.

There are all quotes from 'Big' Dan McCarthy he was saying this to me and to Althuggz yesterday.



Kissing a***, your the traitor bitch on saddo's. Puff.


Just F****** winds me up, I reckon someone who wants to be up the a*** of a person like Mayweather must be a right grade A cock. Who would respect a man that wants your money and gives nothing back, who has no respect for anyone. Who'd tell their son to go and tell a sparring partner, that their paying "Go and tell that guy over there, you know my daddy gon' beat your a**.." He'd do this in front of a camera, on his best behaviour. How low must you be to love and respect such a dick?


Ha, no reply because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd be firing back. There's no comeback to the truth is there? Glad I could help you take a good look at yourself, and what you really are. my knowledge is always ready to be passed on, especially to the weak and the blind


I love to pretend I have a messianic complex, I do it at the poker table it's hilarious, seriously though I think it's a bit sad when someone wants their hometown fighter to get beat, and it says a lot about a person's character not only in a literal sense but also in a subliminal sense. I think it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.



Nonsense if you ask me ::**

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

There are all quotes from 'Big' Dan McCarthy he was saying this to me and to Althuggz yesterday.



Kissing a***, your the traitor bitch on saddo's. Puff.


Just F****** winds me up, I reckon someone who wants to be up the a*** of a person like Mayweather must be a right grade A cock. Who would respect a man that wants your money and gives nothing back, who has no respect for anyone. Who'd tell their son to go and tell a sparring partner, that their paying "Go and tell that guy over there, you know my daddy gon' beat your a**.." He'd do this in front of a camera, on his best behaviour. How low must you be to love and respect such a dick?


Ha, no reply because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd be firing back. There's no comeback to the truth is there? Glad I could help you take a good look at yourself, and what you really are. my knowledge is always ready to be passed on, especially to the weak and the blind


I love to pretend I have a messianic complex, I do it at the poker table it's hilarious, seriously though I think it's a bit sad when someone wants their hometown fighter to get beat, and it says a lot about a person's character not only in a literal sense but also in a subliminal sense. I think it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.



Nonsense if you ask me ::**

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Be yourself and just don't respond. I am going for Hatton, though Floyd is going to smoke him. This is a case for me where I'm not rooting for Hatton cause' he's white, as I almost always root for my Americans, I'm going for Hatton cause' he's more down to earth and I can't stand Floyd's attitude. I admire his skills above all of todays fighters, but his personality drives me up a wall. But if you want to root for Floyd then don't feel like you have to explain your reasons to anyone, just do it. At least we have these fights to look forward to, that's what I always root for in the end, just having these big fights!!

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

There are all quotes from 'Big' Dan McCarthy he was saying this to me and to Althuggz yesterday.



Kissing a***, your the traitor bitch on saddo's. Puff.


Just F****** winds me up, I reckon someone who wants to be up the a*** of a person like Mayweather must be a right grade A cock. Who would respect a man that wants your money and gives nothing back, who has no respect for anyone. Who'd tell their son to go and tell a sparring partner, that their paying "Go and tell that guy over there, you know my daddy gon' beat your a**.." He'd do this in front of a camera, on his best behaviour. How low must you be to love and respect such a dick?


Ha, no reply because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd be firing back. There's no comeback to the truth is there? Glad I could help you take a good look at yourself, and what you really are. my knowledge is always ready to be passed on, especially to the weak and the blind


I love to pretend I have a messianic complex, I do it at the poker table it's hilarious, seriously though I think it's a bit sad when someone wants their hometown fighter to get beat, and it says a lot about a person's character not only in a literal sense but also in a subliminal sense. I think it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.



Nonsense if you ask me ::**

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Well I would like to add that 'Big' Dan McCarthy is also a hypocrite. I'm a fellow Brit like him and yet following a fight result between fighters I can't even remember he made a post about me and gave me the finger, this despite the fact I hadn't even entered into discussion with him at any time about the fight in question. ???

I think he just has a lot of built up internal anger issues. I imagine that were you able to watch him typing out his postings he would be much the same as Majesty when talking about Larry Merchant, lots of fist pounding, shadow boxing and table thumping.

I think he maybe needs some tranquilizers to keep him stable. :-\

FFS its YOUTUBE ;D

THe amount of moronic and idiotic comments on that site defies belief. Youtube comments really do bring out the dregs of humanity, more that any other place i can think of.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

CC for a ballsy post. I have been wanting to post something along these lines, but apparently my balls haven't dropped far enough yet and I don't like to start contention for no reason with people. Race will always be a part of all things, sad but true. I love fights and fighters, and still notice that though their are differences between races, natural or perceived, we all still bleed the same color. I am about as white as you get, with a touch of Amreican Indian blood, but I love all fighters who fight. You take a bunch of kids about 5 years old and put them alone in a sandbox together and they wouldn't care what color their playmates are; it's the parents that drive color issues into us. Be proud of who you are and treat a human as just that, everything else is b.s. If a fan of boxing hates Hatton cause' he's white or Whittaker cause' he's black or Chavez because he is Mexican, etc., then there is nothing I can do about that, to each their own. Tonight is the Pavlik/Taylor fight, which I dreamt about all night and am chomping at the bit to see. I am a big fan of both fighters, but I'll be hnest I want Kelly to win. Is it because he's white??? Yeah, I guess so, though I have always rooted for Taylor. Nothing wrong with rooting for your "people", most do, but there is no hate for Taylor. I still think JT will win and in the end I just think this will be a great fight. Race will always be an issue for alot of people, but it depends on how you treat people or think about people that matters. I judge by character, not color.

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Thanks, CC back dude for your kool post as well. Some good points made! :)

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It's funny, cause' I don't have but a few friends, none of them white. My handful of friends are Black and 2 Mexican-American. 3 of my Black friends are coming over tonight and it will be funny cause' I already know they're rooting for Taylor, and I'm going for Pavlik. It will be a funny night cause' it will all be in good nature who we are going for in the fight, teasing each other. The good thing is that it's my house so if{when}Taylor wins and they rub it in my face I can always kick them out of my house ;D This will be fight of the year, these guys are going to go ballistic on each other.

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Lol its true, hows this for race issues..The friend i'm going with to vegas to watch the fight is a massive Hatton fan, we always tease each other about our fave fighters too. On top of this..he is Greek Cypriot and I am Turkish Cypriot (although we are both British having been born in the U.K)..Our races had a war for the country of Cyrpus in 1974 and as a result lots of lives were lost (sometimes in gruesome torturous ways) and they now live on seperate sides of the country. The guy is my best friend. That really made me relate to your post about 'everyone bleeds the same'. Its so true.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

There are all quotes from 'Big' Dan McCarthy he was saying this to me and to Althuggz yesterday.



Kissing a***, your the traitor bitch on saddo's. Puff.


Just F****** winds me up, I reckon someone who wants to be up the a*** of a person like Mayweather must be a right grade A cock. Who would respect a man that wants your money and gives nothing back, who has no respect for anyone. Who'd tell their son to go and tell a sparring partner, that their paying "Go and tell that guy over there, you know my daddy gon' beat your a**.." He'd do this in front of a camera, on his best behaviour. How low must you be to love and respect such a dick?


Ha, no reply because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd be firing back. There's no comeback to the truth is there? Glad I could help you take a good look at yourself, and what you really are. my knowledge is always ready to be passed on, especially to the weak and the blind


I love to pretend I have a messianic complex, I do it at the poker table it's hilarious, seriously though I think it's a bit sad when someone wants their hometown fighter to get beat, and it says a lot about a person's character not only in a literal sense but also in a subliminal sense. I think it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.



Nonsense if you ask me ::**

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hahahahah I only just finished actually reading his crap. The final line is a killer, it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.

I hope you feel ashamed you immoral evil souless black hearted man you. That has to be the first time I've heard a Mayweather fan get chastised for lacking in 'righteousness' :o

It sounds like a lecture from God. I half expected him to announce his 10 Commandments for Forum and Boxing fan Obedience.

1) Honour your hometown fighters as your brother.

2) Do not commit fighter adultury and support fighters from other nations. It is an abomination to McCarthy God.

3) Do not mock your nation's fighters for in doing so you are mocking McCarthy God.

4) Do not admire any boxer who does not present himself as righteous on tv, it is an abomination to McCarthy God.

5) Do not disagree with McCarthy God, it is an abomination to Him.

I can't be arsed to think of any more but they would probably involve lots of finger giving and whiny moaning.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

CC for a ballsy post. I have been wanting to post something along these lines, but apparently my balls haven't dropped far enough yet and I don't like to start contention for no reason with people. Race will always be a part of all things, sad but true. I love fights and fighters, and still notice that though their are differences between races, natural or perceived, we all still bleed the same color. I am about as white as you get, with a touch of Amreican Indian blood, but I love all fighters who fight. You take a bunch of kids about 5 years old and put them alone in a sandbox together and they wouldn't care what color their playmates are; it's the parents that drive color issues into us. Be proud of who you are and treat a human as just that, everything else is b.s. If a fan of boxing hates Hatton cause' he's white or Whittaker cause' he's black or Chavez because he is Mexican, etc., then there is nothing I can do about that, to each their own. Tonight is the Pavlik/Taylor fight, which I dreamt about all night and am chomping at the bit to see. I am a big fan of both fighters, but I'll be hnest I want Kelly to win. Is it because he's white??? Yeah, I guess so, though I have always rooted for Taylor. Nothing wrong with rooting for your "people", most do, but there is no hate for Taylor. I still think JT will win and in the end I just think this will be a great fight. Race will always be an issue for alot of people, but it depends on how you treat people or think about people that matters. I judge by character, not color.

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Thanks, CC back dude for your kool post as well. Some good points made! :)

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It's funny, cause' I don't have but a few friends, none of them white. My handful of friends are Black and 2 Mexican-American. 3 of my Black friends are coming over tonight and it will be funny cause' I already know they're rooting for Taylor, and I'm going for Pavlik. It will be a funny night cause' it will all be in good nature who we are going for in the fight, teasing each other. The good thing is that it's my house so if{when}Taylor wins and they rub it in my face I can always kick them out of my house ;D This will be fight of the year, these guys are going to go ballistic on each other.

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Lol its true, hows this for race issues..The friend i'm going with to vegas to watch the fight is a massive Hatton fan, we always tease each other about our fave fighters too. On top of this..he is Greek Cypriot and I am Turkish Cypriot (although we are both British having been born in the U.K)..Our races had a war for the country of Cyrpus in 1974 and as a result lots of lives were lost (sometimes in gruesome torturous ways) and they now live on seperate sides of the country. The guy is my best friend. That really made me relate to your post about 'everyone bleeds the same'. Its so true.

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That's awesome; when I saw the Greek and Turk statement I thought-"wow, these guys are going to kill each other",lol. I spend a huge amount of time reading and doing history research, and know the history of Greeks and Turks isn't a good one, even today. Great to hear you guys can put others b.s. problems aside.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

There are all quotes from 'Big' Dan McCarthy he was saying this to me and to Althuggz yesterday.



Kissing a***, your the traitor bitch on saddo's. Puff.


Just F****** winds me up, I reckon someone who wants to be up the a*** of a person like Mayweather must be a right grade A cock. Who would respect a man that wants your money and gives nothing back, who has no respect for anyone. Who'd tell their son to go and tell a sparring partner, that their paying "Go and tell that guy over there, you know my daddy gon' beat your a**.." He'd do this in front of a camera, on his best behaviour. How low must you be to love and respect such a dick?


Ha, no reply because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd be firing back. There's no comeback to the truth is there? Glad I could help you take a good look at yourself, and what you really are. my knowledge is always ready to be passed on, especially to the weak and the blind


I love to pretend I have a messianic complex, I do it at the poker table it's hilarious, seriously though I think it's a bit sad when someone wants their hometown fighter to get beat, and it says a lot about a person's character not only in a literal sense but also in a subliminal sense. I think it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.



Nonsense if you ask me ::**

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hahahahah I only just finished actually reading his crap. The final line is a killer, it displays a lack of righteousness which could further suggest a low degree of family values.

I hope you feel ashamed you immoral evil souless black hearted man you. That has to be the first time I've heard a Mayweather fan get chastised for lacking in 'righteousness' :o

It sounds like a lecture from God. I half expected him to announce his 10 Commandments for Forum and Boxing fan Obedience.

1) Honour your hometown fighters as your brother.

2) Do not commit fighter adultury and support fighters from other nations. It is an abomination to McCarthy God.

3) Do not mock your nation's fighters for in doing so you are mocking McCarthy God.

4) Do not admire any boxer who does not present himself as righteous on tv, it is an abomination to McCarthy God.

5) Do not disagree with McCarthy God, it is an abomination to Him.

I can't be arsed to think of any more but they would probably involve lots of finger giving and whiny moaning.

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