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What I learned about taylor tonight
Hes tuff, he had pavlik hurt but just got to wild and didnt finish him, he needs to seriously find some patience and clear thinking when he has someone hurt like that, most focused fighters finish the job when they hurt someone. Give Kelly his due, he stayed with his gameplan and it payed off. After seeing this fight, I dont see how anyone can blame taylor in the bhop and winky showdowns. He proved tonight that he will stand toe to toe with an opponent who wants to fight, bhop and wink obviously didnt want to stand man to man and after seeing JT rock pavlik tonight they very well might have had good reason to not stand toe to toe, if they had, JT would have KO'ed both. So give him his earned credit, Pavlik would look bad against those guys also because they are more focused on running than fighting. Pav and JT are both respectable staright up in your face lets trade shots fighters, gotta respect them both for their wil to fight and not run.
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Dude did you see the Winky fight?????
JT was backing up the whole time. Winky never ran until the last round. He was walking JT down and throwing lots of punches. Actually was a very good fight and could have gone either way. Definitely no running.
I agree that Pavlik and Taylor both came to fight. It was a great fight. Very exciting, both guys showed alot. Taylor should have taken a knee or went down, maybe he could have gotten up, but backing into a corner and leaning back so you don't go down is suicide. Ref had no choice but to step in cause he was out and wasn't down so still taking shots.
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GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
I agree, he did land that one wild lucky shot, that resulted in a few more wild lucky shots. JT reminded me of your boy Judah. Same wild stuff Judah does when he has some one hurt. JT suffers from Judahism. lol
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
I agree, he did land that one wild lucky shot, that resulted in a few more wild lucky shots. JT reminded me of your boy Judah. Same wild stuff Judah does when he has some one hurt. JT suffers from Judahism. lol
>:mad
hey, he DOESNT leave his lead hand down to look cool, he knows when u do that u use your shoulder to block, NOT just swing your lead hand back and forth, LIKE THAT IDIOT TAYLOR
also judah isnt about random shots, he is fucking nice
wtf u gotta hate on judah for man?
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Face the facts guys Taylor has no stamina , and this time he fought a big powerful guy in his natural division who can throw 100 punches a round for 12 rounds
Pavlik has been down before but gets up to win :)
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Winky ran?... yeah... right.
He never took a backwards step.
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Winky pushed that fight.
What are you talking about.
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Winky pushed that fight.
What are you talking about.
I agree. JMAN is an idiot if he thinks Taylor "brought it" to Winky. Winky came to him backed him up in the middle of the ring in Winky fashion. Like a wall that moves.
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winky did nothing but cover up like a pussy against taylor, winky cant take a true middle weight shot which taylor possess's, maybe you guys didnt see the fight, JT clearly wobbled wink in the 4th and it took 2-3 rounds for wink to suck it up and decide to get back in the fight, wink is clearly the more skilled boxer no doubt, but he cant hurt JT like JT could hurt him. As for Pavlik tonight, hes a great fighter, I will not ever try to take anything away from him, he earned that win, but it wasnt easy for Pavlik like you guys think it was, pavlik had to reach down deep for his every last drop of heart, stamina and energy to get out of that second round. Had Taylor boxed like his trainer wanted him to he would have ended the fight in the 2nd, but he didnt so its beside the point. From what I saw, when pav TKO'ed JT, JT looked as if he had given up and didnt even try to do anything back to Pav, IMO, JT has just been waiting around for someone to floor him, pavlik was his man. I think now that JT has eaten the power and has been on the mat it will make a different animal out of him now, we shall see because they will fight again
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
That and pavlik tried to mouth of during that onslaght... if you watch it he brings his head up to open his mouth during it all and got tagged and that was the one that really send him flying around the ring...
Still though, taylor will win the rematch.
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
That and pavlik tried to mouth of during that onslaght... if you watch it he brings his head up to open his mouth during it all and got tagged and that was the one that really send him flying around the ring...
Still though, taylor will win the rematch.
gonna hold you to that!!!! :) Sal ?!? did you hear this?!!??!!
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Originally Posted by jman
winky did nothing but cover up like a pussy against taylor, winky cant take a true middle weight shot which taylor possess's, maybe you guys didnt see the fight, JT clearly wobbled wink in the 4th and it took 2-3 rounds for wink to suck it up and decide to get back in the fight, wink is clearly the more skilled boxer no doubt, but he cant hurt JT like JT could hurt him. As for Pavlik tonight, hes a great fighter, I will not ever try to take anything away from him, he earned that win, but it wasnt easy for Pavlik like you guys think it was, pavlik had to reach down deep for his every last drop of heart, stamina and energy to get out of that second round. Had Taylor boxed like his trainer wanted him to he would have ended the fight in the 2nd, but he didnt so its beside the point. From what I saw, when pav TKO'ed JT, JT looked as if he had given up and didnt even try to do anything back to Pav, IMO, JT has just been waiting around for someone to floor him, pavlik was his man. I think now that JT has eaten the power and has been on the mat it will make a different animal out of him now, we shall see because they will fight again
What the hell are you talking about? Did you see the fight?
Winky pressed forward the entire fight and was only covering up because....well he didn't want any punches to hit him. He beat Taylor to the punch almost every exchange in their fight.
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I cant believe that anyone who's serious could believe that sticking your tongue out or making a taunting face has anything to do with getting put on queer street, taylor is very very fast and he caught Kelly fair and square just as in the 7th pavlik caught taylor fair and square, they are 2 of the worlds best, there is no room for error in these fights, both made critical mistakes as the other was attacking, both got caught, pav got caught in the 2nd when his stamina was still high, Taylor got caught in the 7th when his and pavs stamina had diminished to a lesser level, had JT caught Pav with the same stuff in the 7th as he did in the 2nd, Pav probably cant get up, just as it happened to JT, getting caught early and getting caught late are too differnt types of getting caught.
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
That and pavlik tried to mouth of during that onslaght... if you watch it he brings his head up to open his mouth during it all and got tagged and that was the one that really send him flying around the ring...
Still though, taylor will win the rematch.
Yeah, I posted earlier that it looked like Kelly was making faces or trying to show off and got caught playing games with JT. That cost him big and almost cost him the fight. I think both fighters will come back better after this fight, so I don't know who to take in a rematch. I'll go on the record and pick Pavlik again, cause' Jt mentally will go into this fight knowing he's rematching the only one to k.o. him and I wonder how that will play with his mind. Maybe JT will win then they can fight again... and again and again, etc. ;D
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Originally Posted by jman
I cant believe that anyone who's serious could believe that sticking your tongue out or making a taunting face has anything to do with getting put on queer street, taylor is very very fast and he caught Kelly fair and square just as in the 7th pavlik caught taylor fair and square, they are 2 of the worlds best, there is no room for error in these fights, both made critical mistakes as the other was attacking, both got caught, pav got caught in the 2nd when his stamina was still high, Taylor got caught in the 7th when his and pavs stamina had diminished to a lesser level, had JT caught Pav with the same stuff in the 7th as he did in the 2nd, Pav probably cant get up, just as it happened to JT, getting caught early and getting caught late are too differnt types of getting caught.
if this...if that....smack em down with a baseball bat!!! you could've said Pavlik was caught while he was still cold...and that JT got KTFO in the prime of the fight!!!! It was a 12 round fight....they were only in the middle rounds....either way Taylor got KTFO! bottom line is Pavlik won the fight.... Next....
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Originally Posted by jman
I cant believe that anyone who's serious could believe that sticking your tongue out or making a taunting face has anything to do with getting put on queer street, taylor is very very fast and he caught Kelly fair and square just as in the 7th pavlik caught taylor fair and square, they are 2 of the worlds best, there is no room for error in these fights, both made critical mistakes as the other was attacking, both got caught, pav got caught in the 2nd when his stamina was still high, Taylor got caught in the 7th when his and pavs stamina had diminished to a lesser level, had JT caught Pav with the same stuff in the 7th as he did in the 2nd, Pav probably cant get up, just as it happened to JT, getting caught early and getting caught late are too differnt types of getting caught.
Well with all due respect, making faces or sticking your tongue out makes a big difference when you get caught because you're really not paying attention to business and maybe could have blocked that punch.. maybe not. Hr got caught though and almost cost himself the fight, so he won't be doing that anymore.
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Also I wonder if Kelly underestimated the power JT has. He seemed overconfident coming in and it seems he thought he took what Miranda threw at him and so he didn't worry too much about JT. He got woke up real quick though. I forgot that JT can seriously hurt someone, just because of his last fights.
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Well, if you guys want to play that game then here ya go. It was a mistake on Pavliks part, mistakes are what gets you beat, taylor made his mistake by going to the ropes and the corner, a place that he clearly gets beat against whoever he boxes, a place where manny has warned him time and time again, stay off the ropes and out of the corner, but jermaine dont listen, that was his mistake. Its simple....in the corner or on the ropes, Pavlik will win everytime, so would winky or bhop against JT, but in the middle of the ring he would beat all of them. Why he chooses not to listen to his trainer is beyond me, maybe hes not very smart.
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Or maybe he should of blocked those punches... like a pussy? ??? ::**
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Originally Posted by jman
winky did nothing but cover up like a pussy against taylor, winky cant take a true middle weight shot which taylor possess's, maybe you guys didnt see the fight, JT clearly wobbled wink in the 4th and it took 2-3 rounds for wink to suck it up and decide to get back in the fight, wink is clearly the more skilled boxer no doubt, but he cant hurt JT like JT could hurt him. As for Pavlik tonight, hes a great fighter, I will not ever try to take anything away from him, he earned that win, but it wasnt easy for Pavlik like you guys think it was, pavlik had to reach down deep for his every last drop of heart, stamina and energy to get out of that second round. Had Taylor boxed like his trainer wanted him to he would have ended the fight in the 2nd, but he didnt so its beside the point. From what I saw, when pav TKO'ed JT, JT looked as if he had given up and didnt even try to do anything back to Pav, IMO, JT has just been waiting around for someone to floor him, pavlik was his man. I think now that JT has eaten the power and has been on the mat it will make a different animal out of him now, we shall see because they will fight again
What the fuck is it with idiots like you who equate defense with being "a pussy". I bet if you were in the ring with a profession boxer you'd just stand there with your chin in the air and let him hit you to show what kind of a real man you are. Right? Moron.
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If I were in the ring you'd refer to me a CHAMP!
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Taylor looked like the old Taylor. Fast and snapped the jab. Had the fight in the center of the ring allot.
He just got beat. New Champ. Get over it.
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If I were in the ring you'd refer to me a CHAMP!
More like the chump.
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If I were in the ring you'd refer to me a CHAMP!
By the way, your buddy Hopkins is a pretty damn good defensive fighter as well. I guess he's a pussy too because he doesn't like to get hit.
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no, he brings the fight in a calculated way, winky isnt on the same level as bhop,taylor and pavlik and never will be, his best ability is to cover up and thats about all hes got, anyone can do that.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
GOT WILD AND CoulDnt FInish HIM!?!?!?!?
the only reason he KD pavlik was cuz he got wild and caught him with 1 lucky shot that lead to him landing like 5 other lucky shots
I agree, he did land that one wild lucky shot, that resulted in a few more wild lucky shots. JT reminded me of your boy Judah. Same wild stuff Judah does when he has some one hurt. JT suffers from Judahism. lol
>:mad
hey, he DOESNT leave his lead hand down to look cool, he knows when u do that u use your shoulder to block, NOT just swing your lead hand back and forth, LIKE THAT IDIOT TAYLOR
also judah isnt about random shots, he is fucking nice
wtf u gotta hate on judah for man?
Cuz it's easy
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Originally Posted by jman
no, he brings the fight in a calculated way, winky isnt on the same level as bhop,taylor and pavlik and never will be, his best ability is to cover up and thats about all hes got, anyone can do that.
Yeah, anybody can fight like Winky Wright. Great argument. Jesus.
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Originally Posted by jman
no, he brings the fight in a calculated way, winky isnt on the same level as bhop,taylor and pavlik and never will be, his best ability is to cover up and thats about all hes got, anyone can do that.
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jman usually I don't post responses like this but I will make an exception for this, you're a fucking moron!!! Winky is a fucking great fighter and he'll be one of not so many that will still have all his mental capabilities when he's retired due to being a pussy, or as even half witted people call it, defense!
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i didn't see any face making. Pavlik got caught, staggered and caught some more and then went down. Taylor just doesn't have the gas to get the job done. It looked like taylor did more holding than pavlik in the last part of the second round. He was too wild and he wanted to hold for some reason.
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Pavlik got caught by a good shot, then dropped his hands to make a face and JT was quicker than Pavlik thought and caught him with 5 or 6 shots. I couldn't believe Kelly did that. That did almost cost him the fight. Hopefully he learned a lesson from that and won't do that anymore.
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What I learned is that Taylor expends a TON of nervous energy and while Pavlik won the fight, Taylor helped out a little. Taylor definitely made a point of getting off first and showed some lateral movement when he got to the ropes and worked to fight off of the ropes, but he never seemed to "calm down" whereas Pavlik looked like he'd been there before.
