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Saw documentary about the Cuban conspiracy yesterday which I believe just re-told the myths that Castro was involved. I believe the Oliver Stone version that LH Oswald was not involved and it was a right wing and CIA/FBI (do not know the difference but one of them) arranged it. He was definitely shot by more than one person he received a shot through the throat, and another from the side that blew his head off. What do people think?
I have been watching old videos about this recently.
Badgeman had some involvement surely?
There is even some thoery that the limo driver shot him!
Who is Badgeman, I have not heard of him but it definately was not the Limo driver.
44 years ago, most everyone involved in some way is dead. Don't think we are ever going to know what really happened. My only problem with all the conspiracy theories is that when you have a number of people involved in some criminal activity at least one person will usually have a conscience on his/her deathbed and confess. How come this never happened?
Check out this site mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/electroni...free/4/jfk.htm
No one will ever know the truth.
I've always suspected Danny G.
Kennedy was going to withdraw the troops and ohhh, coincidence, LBJ kept them there....The magic bullet theory is crazy...I really wonder why the FBI closed the file and keeps it locked away until everyone involved is dead or too old to give a fuck....I am convinced it was a conspiracy, good luck trying to get it proved in a court in U.S.A.
So we can rule out single shooter, maybe Lee Harvey and maybe Castro? It was corporate America with a vested interest in the arms race. Similarities with Iraq, if Bush did not go and invade Iraq would they have shot him?
Badgeman
I've seen clearer pictures of fucking nessy! >:madQuote:
Originally Posted by Munky
Lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
Can you make ut a guy firing a gun, the muzzle flash and the badge on his left shoulder?
Looks like a samurai with a santa claus beard to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Munky
Does this help?
http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/DPlaza/bman2.jpg
They had a decent shot of marciano laying out walcott so in all honesty there's no excuse for that cloudy a picture over a decade later.
Munky, when was the last time someone shot a bullet out of their face? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Munky
He's holding a rifle up mate, the reason its so murky is because it was in the background of another photo. Its been blown up god knows how many times.
Like this
So who is this Badgeman, policeman? where was he firing from? whats the story? Was he the man on the grassy knoll ?
IMO it was Lee Harvey Oswald and maybe one other person but it wasn't a large group of people....the grassy knoll is a plausable explination of where the other shooter was...I've been to the Book Depository, it would have been a quick couple shots to fire off so accurately AND his rifle wasn't all that top of the line.
Communists and the Mafia are the usual suspects in this theory which add up in hindsight. Cuba/USSR: Bay of Pigs and Missle Crisis and the downed U-2 pilot....Mafia: Bobby Kennedy cracked down on organized crime hardcore.
Whoever did the Kennedy boys certainly missed one.....TED KENNEDY, he killed a woman and got LIFE ......in congress
Much better. Now i'm wondering who the hell got the picture without him noticing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munky
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Oh! my god Punisher you are fucken killing me here it's late night and I'm laughing like an idiot here my girls asleep right now shes sleeping over... Scratch that she just got up and went to the living room I woke her up as she walked away she said I wasn't letting her sleep. ;D Oh! my god above is IMO one of the funniest chats I've read on here in a while. Shit I'm gonna piss my pants....
I was about to post:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
"Expect the FBI at your home any minute now"
Then I realized you posted this yesterday so chances are your probably in a river by now.
No still around CutMeMick.
Lyle I do not think LHO could have found the target from that range, maybe he was not even there. Could there have been a shooter on the floors below.
Who is this Badgeman?
A river? Thats so 1950's. He will probably be more or less used in a gene crossing experiment at their new area 51 (which is far away from the original area 51).Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
The F.B.I. (Federal Bureau of Investigation) deals with criminal cases within US jurisdiction. They are essentially the biggest and most powerful police station in the US. The C.I.A. (central intelligence agency) is incharge of keeping tabs on threats to this country (it was implemented shortly after ww2 if i'm not mistaken). Its original purpose was just to watch other countries but other things have since peaked its interest. A lot of people may have a negative view of the CIA as just a bunch of sociopathic money grubbing assholes, I however look at them with a positive light because their being around ensures that this country will never fall to a foreign enemy (of any kind).
Well if Lee Harvey is the fall guy then it's obvious that the group that did the conspiring to kill JFK is the Mafia...the communists would be the perfect group to send anyone wanting to know anything on a wild goose chase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I do however think Lee Harvey could find the target from the book depository but to hit it as accurately and as fast as what happened is what I question
We'll never know the truth...I agree there...but there's no way in hell anyone can convince me that one man could get off the volley of shots & accuracey that Oswald supposedly did from that distance & with a bolt action rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
They had snipers debunk that one about 10 or 12 years ago.
I live in the UK if i was going to be bumped off it would be MI5 or is it MI6, do not know the difference?
So we all agree it was not one shooter, but it could be the Mafia and the cubans/communists and LHO as scapegoats?
The Kennedy's had many Mafia/organized crime ties....Joe Kennedy got his money from boot legging and that money got JFK into office.
Lyndon Johnson might garner a look over as he had big ties to American Steel companies which made tons of money in Vietnam much like people look at Halliburton in Iraq. Vietnam was a winable war but drawing it out meant more money for the companies that supplied materials for the Armed Forces. So the Vietnam War which was in full swing in 1963 might have been a reason to knock off JFK.
dragging out a war for the sake of money seems sick, do the lost lives of soldiers mean nothing to these people!
...War usually is caused by moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Name a war and it started because of money
Revolutions: USA, Mexico, Russia
Civil War - Different economies in the north and south along with a basically 50/50 split in regards to what policy should be. Slavery was only used as a reason for war in order for the North to recruit more soldiers by promising them freedom.
World War I - The Austro-Hungarians and Ottomans fighting to maintain their relevance, the Germans and Russians fighting to prove their power in Europe and affect trade and policy of other established European powers.
World War II - Germany fighting to overcome the economic burden of losing WWI, Japan trying to take over areas so they could make use of their resources as Japan has limited natural resources
Korea and Vietnam were POLICY wars....and they started due to fear of Communism spreading which boils down to relocation of wealth which isn't a good thing.....ever
Hence War is usually about money only 'money' also means freedoms and way of life and health and so on but it's just under the big umbrella of money.
With Iraq and Afghanistan, having a hand in the middle east and easing the militant feelings there we have partners to trade with and help grow. They sell us oil and we sell them goods in return.
And the terrorists are just jealous that they aren't in control of the oil so THEY can have the money....which it's not like Bin Laden is starving, everyone has money over there except the Palestinians who are persona non grata unless it's to serve as a cause of why to hate Israel. Bin laden would trade with the US if he was in power, as would Al Sadr...they are no different than the Saudi Royal Family. Oil is the only thing that makes them relevant on a global scale and therefore some people want to hijack it and have the world beg for mercy, which won't happen because there are other places with oil and everyone will buy from them until the middle east got in gear and started selling reasonably.
....and hence the saying "the spoils of war"
That and they attacked us 4 times before september 11th and the clinton and first bush administration didn't want to be "that guy". Oil was the reason we didn't go to war in the 90's, it's not the reason we went to war in the 00's. Don't look up flight 93 and all the bs they try to spin on it, look up flight 800. July 31st 1996 (haven't heard the date or year in awhile so I am unsure on them but the time is dead on) 8:31pm just of the coast of new york. Seeing as you're equally as disgusted with the conspiracy theorists lyle, it's something you'd like to find out about. While you're on that, go ahead and look up oklahoma city alittle closer too.............. Aside from oklahoma city and the first world trade center attack, when has there been a domestic large scale car bombing? There hasn't. It just seems like convient timing as these same tactics were being used overseas on american embassies. The oversea embassies were all bin laden but he didn't have anything to do with all the american attacks untill 9/11. They were all direct orders from iraq's government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Palestinians have a legitimite gripe. They were thrown out of their home because the powerful countries of the world felt bad for the jews post halocaust and figured they would give them the holy land to cheer them up. The extremists are wrong on all counts but a majority are not extremists. If you're going to show sympathy and make rule changes for mexicans coming here illegally "searching for a better life" then be consistant and show the same caring towards americans whose jobs were outsourced (no domestic good comes from outsourcing, any belief otherwise is stupidity) and palestinians. Removing american jobs from americans makes more money as does bringing in cheap labor from over the boarder. Giving people back their homeland just doesn't make financial sense as there is already a stable ally in place there in countrol of resources ::**. It is about money no matter how you slice it but i'll remind you that I don't see any other governments in the world jumping to right the injustices of the world that hold no profit. They're all the same no one is better than any other. No country is truly allied with any other country in the world, they are just business partners.
People think they are upset because the government "lied" about WMD's (saddam did have wmd's as he used them against the kurds but weapons inspectors destroyed them all during a previous visit to iraq), imagine if they told the truth that we were attacked and didn't respond. THAT would've been a disaster. Waiting to attack back has given them the idea that we quit easily which is what makes the war at hand now the issue that it is (among other things).
I dunno if our government took out kennedy or not. They (the CIA) released a series of papers detailing their very shady missions during the 60's and 70's. Kennedy's assassination wasn't in there but you'd have to be an idiot to believe they would put it in there if they actually did do it. Despite being a democracy, I do think it's necessary for the government to hide things from the people it governs. Some information is best kept between those that need to know it.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Falklands War in 1982.
Fought coz it was the first time British land had been lost since WW2.
...maybe you found one there....I mean who the hell cares about the Falkland Islands?
I just wish yall had good old Maggie back
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Originally Posted by Munky
It kinda looks like a nun
There is more evidence that Oswald killed Kennedy then there is against O.J.
Conspiracy theorist are stupid, and the JFK assasiantion is there biggest victory. They are doing the same think to 911. In 30 years we will be just as stupid an say things like : there was no way al quida blew up the trade tower alone." "AL quida was a patsy."
The fact is that Oswald killed Kennedy by himself.
Most conspiracy theorys derive from William Garrison, the New Orleans DA which JFK the movie was about.
Garrison was actually insain(seriosly- it what lead to his National Guard discharge) and he was a pedifile. But why did he make up all this stuff about the JFK assasination. Because he got him famous. The more people he indicted the more people loved him.
The conspiracy theorys started small. Like JFK was shot from the front.
Then the autopsy photos come out showing he was shot twice in the back of the head and in the back of the neck
So -we need a new theory- How about- JFK's body was replaced in the airplan on the flight home....and so on.
ANd JFK was the second politician that Oswald tried to assinate.
a couple of years before Kennedy, he took a couple of shots at a Texas Politician named General Walker. No one knew it was Osawald that shot at Walker until after the JFK shooting when his wife ratting him out.
Lane uppercut he definitely was shot by more than one person. You can see the side of his head getting blown off. Did not know about the first assasination attempt by LHO but why did it fail and why was he not caught, and why did Ruby shoot him?
I think you've been totally had mate. This is a magiceye picture, I can see two rabbits hopping over some flowers ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Munky
They surely debunked the thoery that an American sniper could have managed it, unless they could argue he was aiming for somebody else. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
But a professionally trained SAS soldier from the British Isles could pull off that shot. 8)
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
am i allowed to laugh at that????
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....I don't care who shot John Kennedy I care who DIDN'T SHOOT Ted Kennedy!!!