The Real Deal vs Ibraginov

Alright here we go . I was impressed with holyfield in his last fights but this is a better oponent than any he has lately faced. If this fight was in the states, the judges would be gracious and id go with holyfield by decison but Russia turns this totally around. Anyways, I still think that a Holyfield decisoin at 9:1 at the sportbook is a possible winner.

I'm picking Holyfield too. Lets go Evander! He can beat this bum.

My heart says Holyfield, and I know its not likely but I think he will manage to pull off the upset. Since its in Russia I wouldn't be surprised to see him get robbed.

I'm Picking Evander by decision.

I just hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him. Literally.

Holyfield by decision.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I just hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him. Literally.

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Fenster such a drama Queen.... Like they usher him in on a wheel chair or something, he has passed all the tests and is physically fitter than anyone on this forum. But we need to worry about him getting killed ::** I mean since when are we doctors and medical professionals ??? He as fought mediocre and less than mediocre confidence building fights but the one thing you can see is that he has his wits about him and his reflexes are back from his healthy shoulders and he's putting his punches together and still has his power and has shown to have great conditioning as and has been the most active Heavyweight to date besides Rahman as well as Evander maintains bounce in his step while jabbing for 10-12 rounds SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? its not like Holmes, Foreman, Ali that were fighting in there 40's all flabby and creating a spectacle with their names.. Evander is 10000000% focused like he was 28 with spot on preparation.

Besides, he has been with Ronnie Shields for a long time and Ronnie knows and cares enough to throw in the towel if Evander is getting busted up. When his comeback against Bates was announced I said I word support Evander as long as he was competitive and made a good showing, well he has exceeded everyones expectations and has proven himself just as worthy as any heavyweight and he has followed thru on his own gameplan and his promises to the fans up to this point..... I believe in him 1000000000000000000000000000% that he will be victorious

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I just hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him. Literally.

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Fenster such a drama Queen.... Like they usher him in on a wheel chair or something, he has passed all the tests and is physically fitter than anyone on this forum. But we need to worry about him getting killed ::** I mean since when are we doctors and medical professionals ??? He as fought mediocre and less than mediocre confidence building fights but the one thing you can see is that he has his wits about him and his reflexes are back from his healthy shoulders and he's putting his punches together and still has his power and has shown to have great conditioning as and has been the most active Heavyweight to date besides Rahman as well as Evander maintains bounce in his step while jabbing for 10-12 rounds SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? its not like Holmes, Foreman, Ali that were fighting in there 40's all flabby and creating a spectacle with their names.. Evander is 10000000% focused like he was 28 with spot on preparation.

Besides, he has been with Ronnie Shields for a long time and Ronnie knows and cares enough to throw in the towel if Evander is getting busted up. When his comeback against Bates was announced I said I word support Evander as long as he was competitive and made a good showing, well he has exceeded everyones expectations and has proven himself just as worthy as any heavyweight and he has followed thru on his own gameplan and his promises to the fans up to this point..... I believe in him 1000000000000000000000000000% that he will be victorious

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Fair enough. I still hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him though. Literally. ;)

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I just hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him. Literally.

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Fenster such a drama Queen.... Like they usher him in on a wheel chair or something, he has passed all the tests and is physically fitter than anyone on this forum. But we need to worry about him getting killed ::** I mean since when are we doctors and medical professionals ??? He as fought mediocre and less than mediocre confidence building fights but the one thing you can see is that he has his wits about him and his reflexes are back from his healthy shoulders and he's putting his punches together and still has his power and has shown to have great conditioning as and has been the most active Heavyweight to date besides Rahman as well as Evander maintains bounce in his step while jabbing for 10-12 rounds SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? its not like Holmes, Foreman, Ali that were fighting in there 40's all flabby and creating a spectacle with their names.. Evander is 10000000% focused like he was 28 with spot on preparation.

Besides, he has been with Ronnie Shields for a long time and Ronnie knows and cares enough to throw in the towel if Evander is getting busted up. When his comeback against Bates was announced I said I word support Evander as long as he was competitive and made a good showing, well he has exceeded everyones expectations and has proven himself just as worthy as any heavyweight and he has followed thru on his own gameplan and his promises to the fans up to this point..... I believe in him 1000000000000000000000000000% that he will be victorious

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Fair enough. I still hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him though. Literally. ;)

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Just like hope you dont slip in the shower and break your neck ;)

holyfield ud O0

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I just hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him. Literally.

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Fenster such a drama Queen.... Like they usher him in on a wheel chair or something, he has passed all the tests and is physically fitter than anyone on this forum. But we need to worry about him getting killed ::** I mean since when are we doctors and medical professionals ??? He as fought mediocre and less than mediocre confidence building fights but the one thing you can see is that he has his wits about him and his reflexes are back from his healthy shoulders and he's putting his punches together and still has his power and has shown to have great conditioning as and has been the most active Heavyweight to date besides Rahman as well as Evander maintains bounce in his step while jabbing for 10-12 rounds SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? its not like Holmes, Foreman, Ali that were fighting in there 40's all flabby and creating a spectacle with their names.. Evander is 10000000% focused like he was 28 with spot on preparation.

Besides, he has been with Ronnie Shields for a long time and Ronnie knows and cares enough to throw in the towel if Evander is getting busted up. When his comeback against Bates was announced I said I word support Evander as long as he was competitive and made a good showing, well he has exceeded everyones expectations and has proven himself just as worthy as any heavyweight and he has followed thru on his own gameplan and his promises to the fans up to this point..... I believe in him 1000000000000000000000000000% that he will be victorious

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Fair enough. I still hope Ibragimov doesn't kill him though. Literally. ;)

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I hope hes not poisoned or gets mysteriously exposed to mercury Lol....(?)
Evander Holyfield Tko 10 Sultan Ibragimov.

10 Years ago this would have been a pointless topic because all the heavyweights that are around today just wouldnt have lived with Holyfield back then (except maybe and its a big maybe Wlad Klitschko). But now this is a very interesting match up. My heart says Holyfield but my head isnt sure. He has always taken a lot of punishment in his fights but due to his supernatural chin he seemed to always get away with it. But surely he cant still rely on his chin now at his age!

My hearts wants Evander to win by a devastating KO, but my head says Ibragimov wins a dull decision!

surprise DRAW! and the losers are the people who actually pay to watch this disgrace

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Originally Posted by Lyle

surprise DRAW! and the losers are the people who actually pay to watch this disgrace

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what happens to you seeing you wake up a loser? ;D

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Originally Posted by Lyle

surprise DRAW! and the losers are the people who actually pay to watch this disgrace

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Well I need A big "L" on my forehead Lyle.Sign me up.
You better hope to God its not a draw..You know these greedy $$$$ hungry people involved will milk this into Rematch,and worse of all ::**another Farking Thread ;D
Those old school 10th rounds will make an apperance that Evander has called home for 23 Years and I see him stopping Ibragimov in 10th or late.

Im gonna watch this, its one of those rare fights on just before noon tho which will make it weird!

Is the fight being shown on any of the channels in the uk ??

Ibraginov to win UD or late stoppage

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Originally Posted by hogey

Is the fight being shown on any of the channels in the uk ??

Ibraginov to win UD or late stoppage

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See www.secondsout.com

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surprise DRAW! and the losers are the people who actually pay to watch this disgrace

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This had to be one of the first posts I read after ordering the fight :'(

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

Although I voted Holy by dec in the poll im actually letting my heart rule my head cuz logic dicates that Ibragimov with his pace and homeadvantage should gets a points decision in this fight .

He is the younger fresher man , not a bad hitter either and Evander was rocked in his last fight with Savarese. This doesnt bode well for him . He has every chance if he can rough the champ up and make it his type of fight and win on experience but its a big ask . Fingers crossed for Evander !

i want evander to win this one. come on THE REAL DEAL !!!

holyfield by decision

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

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Right on...I will only disagree with one point; Lou Savarese is/was NOT on the comeback, he was comfortably retired and took a payday with Holyfield ;)...surprisingly it turned into a pretty competitive fight with Lou's Heart as big as it is, he won't lay down for anyone.

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

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The Savarese fight was crap,head butt vs slap hands

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

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Right on...I will only disagree with one point; Lou Savarese is/was NOT on the comeback, he was comfortably retired and took a payday with Holyfield ;)...surprisingly it turned into a pretty competitive fight with Lou's Heart as big as it is, he won't lay down for anyone.

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I agree it was a good fight

Foreman couldnt drop Lou so I was impressed how Evander dropped and contained the younger stronger bigger man

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

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Right on...I will only disagree with one point; Lou Savarese is/was NOT on the comeback, he was comfortably retired and took a payday with Holyfield ;)...surprisingly it turned into a pretty competitive fight with Lou's Heart as big as it is, he won't lay down for anyone.

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He beat Travis Fulton WKo3rd and then Matt Hicks Wko1st in 2007 before fighting Holyfield.
But as I'm a cynic I'd say he took those fights as warm-ups as he knew a payday with Holyfield was in the offing. :)

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

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Right on...I will only disagree with one point; Lou Savarese is/was NOT on the comeback, he was comfortably retired and took a payday with Holyfield ;)...surprisingly it turned into a pretty competitive fight with Lou's Heart as big as it is, he won't lay down for anyone.

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He beat Travis Fulton WKo3rd and then Matt Hicks Wko1st in 2007 before fighting Holyfield.
But as I'm a cynic I'd say he took those fights as warm-ups as he knew a payday with Holyfield was in the offing. :)

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Fultons a total tomato,and Hicks is inexperienced,and still almost beat Savarese early in that fight

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

I've gone for Ibragimov via KO in most Predictors and that is my final instinct.

Apart from his dire draw with Ray Austin- I think Ibragimov should beat Holyfield who these days looks a little fragile and his legs have gone.

I watched the fights with Bates and Maddalone and the Maddalone fight was the one of most concern. Holyfield boxed cleverly while Maddalone kept trying to get into a punch-up. Holy finished the job well but it was alarming to see him not get involved in a scrap as of old.(as though he knew he would come-off 2nd best).
He is supposed to have looked pretty good against Savarese and I have that fight and may watch it later but the opposition has been carefully selected as Savarese was on a comeback himself.

Without wishing him harm it is probably best that he gets Ko'd tomorrow and comes to his senses that he is not the fighter he once was.

It's a shame but all the greats just keep going; Joe Loius, Ezzard Charles, Muhammad Ali the list is never ending.

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Right on...I will only disagree with one point; Lou Savarese is/was NOT on the comeback, he was comfortably retired and took a payday with Holyfield ;)...surprisingly it turned into a pretty competitive fight with Lou's Heart as big as it is, he won't lay down for anyone.

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He beat Travis Fulton WKo3rd and then Matt Hicks Wko1st in 2007 before fighting Holyfield.
But as I'm a cynic I'd say he took those fights as warm-ups as he knew a payday with Holyfield was in the offing. :)

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Fultons a total tomato,and Hicks is inexperienced,and still almost beat Savarese early in that fight

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Exactly - warm-up fights. ;)

See thats the thing,like it or not,hes fighting the WBO champ on his home turf
It would make a nice story if he pulled it off,but lets look at who he's fought so far
Lou"Im apparantly saving my hands for another fight"Savarese,I actually show fighters that fight as evidence of what happens when you dont drive your punches
Fres "Even I dont think I can win a big fight anymore"Oquendo
Vinny Maddawho?
Jeremy"Will lose for a large paycheck"Bates
What in that stellar pack has convinced anyone that he can win this

I would really like Holyfield to win but after watching the Savarese fight again the other night on ESPN classic I'm doubting it. And I don't even think much of Sultan at all, but Evander just looked slow against Savarese and considering Savarese is in his 40's too, I don't think Evander looked very good. Sultan's gonna be way quicker and that will probably be the difference. Evander still has a pretty good left hook though.

I just realized that Evander has only scored 2 knockouts in the last 10 years! Thats not good because his most likely victory iver Sultan would be by decision. That is doubtfull because Sultan is younger and faster, and also because it is in Sultans back yard. Holyfield weighed in at 211 which is the lightest he been in over a decade so he is in shape and will be fast but he may not take Sultan punches as well but we will have to see. The more I think about it the less I think Holy can pull it off.

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I just realized that Evander has only scored 2 knockouts in the last 10 years! Thats not good because his most likely victory iver Sultan would be by decision. That is doubtfull because Sultan is younger and faster, and also because it is in Sultans back yard. Holyfield weighed in at 211 which is the lightest he been in over a decade so he is in shape and will be fast but he may not take Sultan punches as well but we will have to see. The more I think about it the less I think Holy can pull it off.

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CC for the info. 211? Damn, that is light for Holyfield or any heavyweight right now. I hope he kicks Sultan's chubby rat looking ass tomorrow night. Let's go Holy!!!!!!!!!

Well let's just hope that Evander has Benny Hinn praying and interceding on his behalf for a miracle, and that's he's on a good dose of undetectable roids that help him survive into the later rounds and give some zip to his punches :P

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Well let's just hope that Evander has Benny Hinn praying and interceding on his behalf for a miracle, and that's he's on a good dose of undetectable roids that help him survive into the later rounds and give some zip to his punches :P

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Bilbo, you bitter little Hobbit bastard. Let Holyfield have this one...if he can win it.