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How far can Amir Khan go as a pro???
The most important thing I think for Khan is that he fights his early fights on undercards so that he can learn his trade slowly and out of the spotlight of the very critical press who dont know a great deal about boxing and how young pros need to learn from fight to fight.
I hope Khan goes the traditional route of British boxers over the years,going for the British ,European then Commonwealth title before a world title fight.
There are to many fighters happy to have crap wrapped around there waist such as WBU,IBO and so on.
If he is moved slowly and keeps his feet on the ground I think he can be a world champ in 3 or 4 years. :o
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As far as his legs will take him.
Hope this helps
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If he sticks with Frank Warren he'll build up a very nice looking undefeated record,only fight in Britain and have a well respected WBO title within 5 years!
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His amateur pedigree speaks for itself, hes a class act no doubt about that. Â The media frenzy around him will be huge no matter where or how high up the card he fights, is he a Frank Warren fighter yet? at the moment he's physically immature, he also needs time to adapt to pro boxing, but whatever hurdles he has infront of him now, rest assured hes better equipped than most who give up their vest.
World champ? bet your boots on it, but then again Audleys a world champ right now ;D
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i think Kahn can become a world champ and im pretty confident in this opinion as much as i cannot wait for him to get his ass handed to him!
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Best thing he can do is drop warren right now. Warren is showing him the fame and fortune at the tender age of 19. Few more years of this; through no fault of his own he will believe he is the best about, end up having his a** handed to him setting him back a good few years.
Said it before; the boy needs to be out in the USA fighting undercards where he is out of the birtish publics sight, leanring his trade in front of people who don't give a rats a** about anyting prior t the fight they will be looking at then.
i think then and only then will he develope into a complete level headed fighter, go on to domonate, unify devisons and truly be reconised as a damn great boxer - right now i don't see warren taking him down that road, who knows? maybe warren will learn how to promote, although i think there is more chance that Jim watts will learn how to call a fight...
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As far as his talent can take him because he obviously doesn't study or hasn't mastered the basics.
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He'll go as far Ed Hopson went.
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I think Amir is a guy that will take a big fight before he is ready and get schooled by someone with a good defense and jab. That being said I think his pro career won't go very far, as said before he needs stronger foundations in the basics.
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I think Amir is a guy that will take a big fight before he is ready and get schooled by someone with a good defense and jab. That being said I think his pro career won't go very far, as said before he needs stronger foundations in the basics.
Warren will not let him go into a fight that he does'nt think he will win,even though Khan wants to be let off the leash he will not be aloud.
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I think Amir is a guy that will take a big fight before he is ready and get schooled by someone with a good defense and jab. That being said I think his pro career won't go very far, as said before he needs stronger foundations in the basics.
With Frank Warren promoting him, there's no way he'll take a major fight for at least another 3 years. It took Ricky Hatton about 30 odd fights before he got a world title shot at the age of about 27.
Amir won't be challenging the Juan Diaz's or Miguel Cotto's of the world's just yet.
I'm personally hoping he gets found out way before he hits the world stage however. His skills are ok but his fundamentals are average at best and I think someobody like Kevin Mitchell would school him right now.
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It's an open secret that Fwank like's his fighters to fight nobodies, thus making his fighters appear far more gifted and special than they really are.
Eventually when the public or the fighter themselves can no longer stand the charade he'll pick the weakest belt holder to go for, to satisfy the demand.
Amir Khan is one of the fundamental reasons why Ricky Hatton left Frank Warren - Hatton fought long and hard for far less than Amir is picking up from poxy 4 rounders.
Fwank gave Amir a golden hello and is paying him far handsomely than he ever paid Hatton.
He had Amir installed as his latest cash-cow for when Hatton fought Tszyu - insiders point out that Fwank largely believed Ricky would give a good account of himself but may possibly lose against the then P4P #2 Aussie/Russian.
Once Hatton got the victory and suddenly held all the cards, Fwank didn't budge on his pay structure and was then out of the Hatton team.
I know in my opinion, that if some kid was given £100,000.00 then £50-100K a fight after i had fought long, hard and loyally for less than that and was already a belt holder that i would be p*ssed off too.
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It's an open secret that Fwank like's his fighters to fight nobodies, thus making his fighters appear far more gifted and special than they really are.
Eventually when the public or the fighter themselves can no longer stand the charade he'll pick the weakest belt holder to go for, to satisfy the demand.
Amir Khan is one of the fundamental reasons why Ricky Hatton left Frank Warren - Hatton fought long and hard for far less than Amir is picking up from poxy 4 rounders.
Fwank gave Amir a golden hello and is paying him far handsomely than he ever paid Hatton.
He had Amir installed as his latest cash-cow for when Hatton fought Tszyu - insiders point out that Fwank largely believed Ricky would give a good account of himself but may possibly lose against the then P4P #2 Aussie/Russian.
Once Hatton got the victory and suddenly held all the cards, Fwank didn't budge on his pay structure and was then out of the Hatton team.
I know in my opinion, that if some kid was given £100,000.00 then £50-100K a fight after i had fought long, hard and loyally for less than that and was already a belt holder that i would be p*ssed off too.
But what you didn't mention was the fact Khan was bigger in the UK on his first fight than hatton was when he went for his first championship fight...
At the end of the day the fans pay the boxers, the promoter is just there to take a slice of the money as it passes hands.
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This guy has a shitload of star power and it will only grow in the future (Nas), he has alot of talent and has plenty of time to develope, no doubt about it he will be a champion.
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The most important thing I think for Khan is that he fights his early fights on undercards so that he can learn his trade slowly and out of the spotlight of the very critical press who dont know a great deal about boxing and how young pros need to learn from fight to fight.
I hope Khan goes the traditional route of British boxers over the years,going for the British ,European then Commonwealth title before a world title fight.
There are to many fighters happy to have crap wrapped around there waist such as WBU,IBO and so on.
If he is moved slowly and keeps his feet on the ground I think he can be a world champ in 3 or 4 years. :o
Very well put bud, maybe only two years and he could be ready...deffo not sooner though..
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I think he is ready for anyone in the lightweight division, after wathcing how well Katsidis did against Casamayor, and compare their fights with Graham, I think that Amir Khan is going could be a top 5 p4p fighter for a long time. He is really great fighter, I will love to watch him progress.
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Will he take the Katsidis path and fight a true champion sooner rather than later? I doubt it! Now here's a thought, why not fight Katsidis?
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Comparing katsidis' fight and khan's fight with earl and then comparing katsidis's fight with casamayor to get a feel of how khan would do on the world stage really doesn't have much revelance I think. Who knows maybe kats softened earl up for amir, maybe amir wouldn't have the will to get up 2 times in the first round, maybe he would get completely discouraged after he knocked a fighter out of the ring only to see them walk back into it in time to continue... amir and kats are 2 very different kind of fighters so there is nothing much to compare, I've not seen to much of amir but from what I've seen he does seem like he could be the goods but don't just yet put him in with the wolves give him 2 more fights or so
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For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....
In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....
At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.
In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....
I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....
With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through
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With Casamayor & Nate not getting any younger I think even if he looses now he's got a shit load of room to comeback from it.
Theres new breed of Lightweights and they are all young and up coming.
Nowadays too much is put in a loss. A loss is a loss you learn from it and you move on.
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For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....
In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....
At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.
In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....
I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....
With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through
I think you are being a bit harsh Dax. I'd fancy Khan's chances against ANYONE at lightweight right now.
His chin is still the big question mark but apart from that he has everything.
He'd have a great chance against any of those fighters. What makes you think he wouldnt?
Apart from being floored by Willie Limond, in a fight which we should not forget that he got up to annihilate Limond what other weaknesses do you think he has?
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Im sure its been noted already, probably by me but I hate the way Amir falls across the ring throwing 3 or 4 straight punches. Its so untidy and I see someone with a bit more class just sitting and waiting for him to do it and cleaning his clock in the process.
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DaxxKahn
For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....
In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....
At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.
In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....
I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....
With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through
And drunk as fuck.
Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.
Have you ever even seen him fight?
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Im sure its been noted already, probably by me but I hate the way Amir falls across the ring throwing 3 or 4 straight punches. Its so untidy and I see someone with a bit more class just sitting and waiting for him to do it and cleaning his clock in the process.
....With his chin waaay up in the air, I agree completely Memphis.
Thing that worries me is that he does it after EVERY knockdown..he's going to do it one day after he scores a flash knockdown and his opponent is just gonna get up and take advantage of him rushing in with his chin out.
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He has a lot of talent, and some very good attributes, but just hasn't fought often enough and been taken into deep waters to iron out the mistakes. Against the likes of Campbell and Casa I'd pick him to win a few early rounds, but they will eventually catch up to him and KHO. But as Mick said, a loss shouldn't be the end of the world and would probably be a good reality check for him.
i get the impression he thinks the fight game is easy from his experiences so far, and am not convinced he'll be able to swim in deep waters. A fight with Romanov would be good for the summer, and bridge the gap between what he's been fighting to date with the top guys in the division. Rees would be good for him as well, he'll be a tough nut to crack at the weight, and though limited he's relentless enough to be a pain in the arse for Khan.
Even if he gets these fights, I feel it'll be too little to late fro him to genuinely have a chance to beat on of the top guys in the autumn.
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I get the impression that he might struggle if he comes up against a natural 135lber who is still firing back after about 8 rounds.
I'm not sure how he would mentally deal with it.
Like when he fought St Clair i got the impression that if he was fighting a natural 135lber who could hit, he might have been up shit's creek.
Same as when he fought that Drizlane or whatever he was called....that big french guy.
Having said that.....when he really needed it, he pulled some shots out of his arse when Limond had him hurt. Same as Saturday night, he pulled it out the bag when he needed to.
He has tremendous finishing ability. Offensively he is breathtaking at times. He needs work on his defence and the public also need to accept that it's ok for him to go 12 rounds. He can't blow everyone out early.
His chin seems ok to me. The Limond shot was a temple shot, so that has no bearing on his chin in actual fact. His power seems good, his speed is unreal. His defence needs work.
I think in about 3 or 4 fights he is ready for a world title. There's nobody at 135 who i'd be worried about, but there's no need to rush imo.
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It's also nice to see that he is progressing much better than some of the UK fans had predicted and hoped earlier in this thread :)
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It's also nice to see that he is progressing much better than some of the UK fans had predicted and hoped earlier in this thread :)
I would like it to be known that my early comment was not in fact written by me at all.
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DaxxKahn
For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....
In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....
At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.
In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....
I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....
With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through
And drunk as fuck.
Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.
Have you ever even seen him fight?
I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....
Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....
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For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....
In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....
At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.
In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....
I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....
With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through
And drunk as fuck.
Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.
Have you ever even seen him fight?
I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....
Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....
He's progressing but I don't know if he'll EVER be ready for most of them. I give him credit for what he's done so far... Not really that much. Baring some huge jump in progression... He will probably jus be "good"...
My oppionion...
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DaxxKahn
For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....
In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....
At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.
In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....
I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....
With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through
And drunk as fuck.
Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.
Have you ever even seen him fight?
I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....
Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....
Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?
For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?
Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?
:rolleyes:
How many Khan fights have you seen?
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And drunk as fuck.
Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.
Have you ever even seen him fight?
I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....
Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....
Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?
For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?
Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?
:rolleyes:
How many Khan fights have you seen?
AWWWW Little Fenster getting tired?,,,,Maybe it is nap time little boy because you are whine like one....You sit and argue with yourself....Just because I don't think Kahn is going to be elite your ranting and tantrum is not going to change that....Your arguement and going off in left field about Who St. Clair beat 5 fights ago means nothing...period SHIT!!!!!!!
WTF does Graham Earl almost knocking out Katsidis have to do with anything?....It doesn't....Earl did not knock Katsidis out and the fight did not go past the 5th with a W in Katsidis favor...So do we all know what would have, should have, could have means?....It means it did not happen.....I could have, would have , should have opted for penis enlargement surgery when it first came out and then I could have, would have and should have been a porn star but I opted it as a crazy operation that needed some mental unstability to have done so I didn't...now I am married with a wife and mini van full of kids....
You are bringing in all kinds of shit and trying to bring in all kinds of this guy did this and almost did that and Kahn beat them to make a case for yourself and it is not working so save yourself embaressment and give it up while you are ahead.....
Look at the post in this topic I am not the only one who thinks the same thing....
Tell you what....Lets say Kahn beat Casamayor, David Diaz etc...then went to 140 and by some crazy reason Malignaggi enterd the fight on Heroin....and Kahn beat him...Fact is with the way he keeps his chin up Hatton and Witter put him into the canvas in 5 rds....he may be half Arab or what ever middle eastern country his roots are from but he is no Naseem Hamed where his power can allow him to do that against the elite.......Pacquiao blast him out in 3.....but I suppose that wouldn't happen either right?....C'mon Fenster lets hear your arguement on that one.....
Are you on The Kahn fucking Payroll....Come back when your arguement is worth a dime and you can avoid a tantrum throwing in shit I never said
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I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....
Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....
Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?
For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?
Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?
:rolleyes:
How many Khan fights have you seen?
AWWWW Little Fenster getting tired?,,,,Maybe it is nap time little boy because you are whine like one....You sit and argue with yourself....Just because I don't think Kahn is going to be elite your ranting and tantrum is not going to change that....Your arguement and going off in left field about Who St. Clair beat 5 fights ago means nothing...period SHIT!!!!!!!
WTF does Graham Earl almost knocking out Katsidis have to do with anything?....It doesn't....Earl did not knock Katsidis out and the fight did not go past the 5th with a W in Katsidis favor...So do we all know what would have, should have, could have means?....It means it did not happen.....I could have, would have , should have opted for penis enlargement surgery when it first came out and then I could have, would have and should have been a porn star but I opted it as a crazy operation that needed some mental unstability to have done so I didn't...now I am married with a wife and mini van full of kids....
You are bringing in all kinds of shit and trying to bring in all kinds of this guy did this and almost did that and Kahn beat them to make a case for yourself and it is not working so save yourself embaressment and give it up while you are ahead.....
Look at the post in this topic I am not the only one who thinks the same thing....
Tell you what....Lets say Kahn beat Casamayor, David Diaz etc...then went to 140 and by some crazy reason Malignaggi enterd the fight on Heroin....and Kahn beat him...Fact is with the way he keeps his chin up Hatton and Witter put him into the canvas in 5 rds....he may be half Arab or what ever middle eastern country his roots are from but he is no Naseem Hamed where his power can allow him to do that against the elite.......Pacquiao blast him out in 3.....but I suppose that wouldn't happen either right?....C'mon Fenster lets hear your arguement on that one.....
Are you on The Kahn fucking Payroll....Come back when your arguement is worth a dime and you can avoid a tantrum throwing in shit I never said
Man you are seriously the most agro poster on here, why get so angry and state your opinion as fact. I see you do it all the time, it's childish crap. I also love how you can't even answer his question as to how many fights you've actually seen of Amir. He'd simply lose to everyone because of the way he keeps his chin up. But Katsidis for instance, always keeps it nice and tucked away, hence that being the only reason he can compete with these guys. Don't like to butt in on a debate between two posters, but you seem to lose a wingnut anytime anyone disagrees with you.
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Re: How far can Amir Khan go as a pro???
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I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....
Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....
Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?
For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?
Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?
:rolleyes:
How many Khan fights have you seen?
AWWWW Little Fenster getting tired?,,,,Maybe it is nap time little boy because you are whine like one....You sit and argue with yourself....Just because I don't think Kahn is going to be elite your ranting and tantrum is not going to change that....Your arguement and going off in left field about Who St. Clair beat 5 fights ago means nothing...period SHIT!!!!!!!
WTF does Graham Earl almost knocking out Katsidis have to do with anything?....It doesn't....Earl did not knock Katsidis out and the fight did not go past the 5th with a W in Katsidis favor...So do we all know what would have, should have, could have means?....It means it did not happen.....I could have, would have , should have opted for penis enlargement surgery when it first came out and then I could have, would have and should have been a porn star but I opted it as a crazy operation that needed some mental unstability to have done so I didn't...now I am married with a wife and mini van full of kids....
You are bringing in all kinds of shit and trying to bring in all kinds of this guy did this and almost did that and Kahn beat them to make a case for yourself and it is not working so save yourself embaressment and give it up while you are ahead.....
Look at the post in this topic I am not the only one who thinks the same thing....
Tell you what....Lets say Kahn beat Casamayor, David Diaz etc...then went to 140 and by some crazy reason Malignaggi enterd the fight on Heroin....and Kahn beat him...Fact is with the way he keeps his chin up Hatton and Witter put him into the canvas in 5 rds....he may be half Arab or what ever middle eastern country his roots are from but he is no Naseem Hamed where his power can allow him to do that against the elite.......Pacquiao blast him out in 3.....but I suppose that wouldn't happen either right?....C'mon Fenster lets hear your arguement on that one.....
Are you on The Kahn fucking Payroll....Come back when your arguement is worth a dime and you can avoid a tantrum throwing in shit I never said
First off - GROW UP! If you believe i'll resort to your standards, ruining a thread with childish insults, you are very much mistaken.
Second, I never stated ANYTHING you didn't say. You stated that Khan can't beat any Top Light/Lightwelter-weight and ALSO "In the SFW division he beats no one in the top ten even within 3 years time" - You said this, right?
You then asked me to highlight reasons for Khan beating men you've mentioned?
I clearly SHOWED you through formlines with Khan's opponent - Gairy St. Clair - in regards to current IBF champ Balyoi it would be NAIVE to disregard Khan's chances with him. According to YOU Khan has NO-CHANCE against this man, right? He is Top 10 SF after all.
Khan's win in relation to Graham Earl was highlighted, as you asked, to show for a 17 fight 21 year old he was more impressive beating him than current top 10 rated lightweights. So to disregard Khan's chances of attaining future glory seems a little ignorant on your behalf. That is all.
NOW, for the final time - How many Khan fights have you seen?
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Re: How far can Amir Khan go as a pro???
all in all he's had a good start to his carrear, won all his fights, showcased his skills but he comes across as arrogant and non humble sometimes in the way he speaks as if he's the finished article
he should have spent this time fighting on undercards therefore his ego may have stayed in check.
he can go a long way, he has skill and stamina, good quick movement and a good punch. he seems to have hugh support from fans and people within the british boxing scene therefore you'd hope they keep him grounded and not let him get carried away with his own hype. the kid can become world champ within the next 2 years if he stays patient and contines to learn the art of boxing, once he goes from raw talent to matured young talent there plenty he'll be able to do on world stage
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Re: How far can Amir Khan go as a pro???
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Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?
For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?
Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?
:rolleyes:
How many Khan fights have you seen?
AWWWW Little Fenster getting tired?,,,,Maybe it is nap time little boy because you are whine like one....You sit and argue with yourself....Just because I don't think Kahn is going to be elite your ranting and tantrum is not going to change that....Your arguement and going off in left field about Who St. Clair beat 5 fights ago means nothing...period SHIT!!!!!!!
WTF does Graham Earl almost knocking out Katsidis have to do with anything?....It doesn't....Earl did not knock Katsidis out and the fight did not go past the 5th with a W in Katsidis favor...So do we all know what would have, should have, could have means?....It means it did not happen.....I could have, would have , should have opted for penis enlargement surgery when it first came out and then I could have, would have and should have been a porn star but I opted it as a crazy operation that needed some mental unstability to have done so I didn't...now I am married with a wife and mini van full of kids....
You are bringing in all kinds of shit and trying to bring in all kinds of this guy did this and almost did that and Kahn beat them to make a case for yourself and it is not working so save yourself embaressment and give it up while you are ahead.....
Look at the post in this topic I am not the only one who thinks the same thing....
Tell you what....Lets say Kahn beat Casamayor, David Diaz etc...then went to 140 and by some crazy reason Malignaggi enterd the fight on Heroin....and Kahn beat him...Fact is with the way he keeps his chin up Hatton and Witter put him into the canvas in 5 rds....he may be half Arab or what ever middle eastern country his roots are from but he is no Naseem Hamed where his power can allow him to do that against the elite.......Pacquiao blast him out in 3.....but I suppose that wouldn't happen either right?....C'mon Fenster lets hear your arguement on that one.....
Are you on The Kahn fucking Payroll....Come back when your arguement is worth a dime and you can avoid a tantrum throwing in shit I never said
First off - GROW UP! If you believe i'll resort to your standards, ruining a thread with childish insults, you are very much mistaken.
Second, I never stated ANYTHING you didn't say. You stated that Khan can't beat any Top Light/Lightwelter-weight and ALSO
"In the SFW division he beats no one in the top ten even within 3 years time" - You said this, right?
You then asked me to highlight reasons for Khan beating men you've mentioned?
I clearly SHOWED you through formlines with Khan's opponent - Gairy St. Clair - in regards to current IBF champ Balyoi it would be NAIVE to disregard Khan's chances with him. According to YOU Khan has NO-CHANCE against this man, right? He is Top 10 SF after all.
Khan's win in relation to Graham Earl was highlighted, as you asked, to show for a
17 fight 21 year old he was more impressive beating him than current top 10 rated lightweights. So to disregard Khan's chances of attaining future glory seems a little ignorant on your behalf. That is all.
NOW, for the final time - How many Khan fights have you seen?
Let's see I seen the Earl Fight, St Clair, his last fight...His first 3 or 4...Plus the Amateur coverage of his I have seen....Anything more?....I have seen more of him then you have unless you have gone to all his fights in person.....There is your answer...You still are the one who got mad first because I said Kahn was not going to be one of the best in the division and will not beat any of the elite....Just go look back at the post...you are the one who started putting things in caps ETC so don't try to pass the buck like you were calmly trying to debate something....So I'll tell you what since you and P4P like to give each other rep like your high fiving each other I'll throw some to you as well