we need to avoid losing today big time. A win would be great....a draw would be good....a defeat isn't worth thinking about. If we lose it's out of our hands.
let's have em!
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we need to avoid losing today big time. A win would be great....a draw would be good....a defeat isn't worth thinking about. If we lose it's out of our hands.
let's have em!
well so much for that bag of wank
I don't mean this in an unpatriotic way but I'm glad we lost. I want us to fail to qualify as only then will the public reaction be so strong as to force the twats at the FA out and allow someobody with a brain to come in.
Why the fuck we picked Steve McClaren as manager is a complete mystery to me. For me there were two obvious choices when it came to selecting a manager, Martin O'Neil whose been succesful everywhere he's gone and Gus Hiddink who has an awesome track record at world level.
When Gus was appointed as manager of Russia I said to my mates we won't qualify now, Gus will get Russia there and we deserve to fail for appointing such a crappy manager.
If we had O'Neil or Hiddink in charge like we should have we wouldn't be in this mess.
yeh i agree....maclaren is one pointless fucker but i stil think that this squad is good enough to win the the tournament.....if we had a decent manager....hiddink should have been the manQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
can't see russia droppin any points tbh altho israel away is a tough one.
robbo needs droppin.
be weird watchin euro's without us being there.
ah well....least scotland lost
I learnt last season (watching West Ham) that its never over til its over. :D
However, I think its over. :-\
You're right. McLaren is a better number two than a manager. He's not a leader of men. ^-^
It's now a distinct possibility that NONE of the teams from the British Isles will qualify for the finals :o
Not sure I've ever known this happen in my lifetime.... :-[
There's too much money in English football...
And no focus on young English players. We just keeping snapping up foreign players at at increasingly younger age.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I know... Lazy. Sport in this country is pretty terrible when compared to others really...
Look at Tennis... there's probably some one with the potential to be a real world beater sitting in a council house doing fuck all... then a bunch of public school fuckers thinking they're hot shit simply because they're the only ones who can afford to play/don't get snobbed out...
Any that sport any one can play... Basketball... even football... has fuck all money in. Our basketball has very little home grown talent...
We play basketball? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
You don't obviously as you're only 3 ft tall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
But the rest of us are dab hands at it....
I don't wanna come off as an ass but how does England loose to Russia? :(
In other footy news Portugal just slipped bye Khazakstan 2-1 with a goal in the 90th min. by C. Ronaldo.
Germany got rapped by the Czcehs 3-0 .... :o
Mexico plays Guatemala in a couple of minutes. :D
In two words...... Gus HiddinkQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
The man is a genuis. He took South Korea to the semi finals of the world cup and at the last world cup not only qualified with Australia but took them to within a whisker of knocking out Italy, who were only saved by a late penalty.
He'd could get the Dog and Bush pub 5 a side team through the European qualification stages.
Bilbo, as much as I want rid of Mclaren I can never say I am glad we lost and neither should you.
Wether you mean to be or not what you said IS unpatriotic and next summer will be a killer if we are not in a major tournament. 1994 was bad but the blow was slightly cushioned by the kick off times being at midnight etc..
Next summer it will be prime time all over the tv and in our faces
Can't see us doing it now - the only good thing to come out of this will be Mclaren's sacking.
I have never met one person who agrees with his appointment so it just shows you how out of touch the suits at the FA are.
The draw against Macedonia was the fuck up :-\
yeh i agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
i was only 8 in 94 so i didnt really remember it too well.
it will be shit if we don't get there next year.....fuckin love summer when there's footy on.
how can you have a tournament without engerland......fucked up or what!
mclaren is a joke!
In Bilbo's defence, I think his point was that England fail to qualify, McLaren gets fired, whereas if England qualify we'll have him for another 2 years at least and may then fail to qualify for the World Cup - which is even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
It was unpatriotic but also very patriotic. He wants England to succeed and we won't do that til SmilyFaceDonaldTrumpHair is gone. :-[
I was 25 during 94 and remember the hollow sad feeling. It was like being dumped by your bird a week before a group holiday. Then all your mates are there with their birds and you're stuck at home. :'(Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Still, I was cheering on the Paddies during that tournament and their captain was a Londoner named Taansend so at least I had something.
Euro 2008 may not have ANY of the five countries from the British Isles and that would be fucking tragic.
I still think England wil go through, but saying that Isreal have nothing to play for. But isreal have been beaton at home only twice in last 15 years, and they drew 1-1 at Russia. Russia have an average away form, and i strongly fancy a draw in Isreal.
So that leaves us to beat Croatia who will hopefully will come to Wembley in a sort of tourist mood as they will already have qualified and we batter them!!!
BUT GUYS DONT WORRY ISREAL IS ONE OF THE HARDEST AWAY TRIPS IN EUROPE.
Sorry .... but watching a bunch of overpaid nancy boys mincing around a field, displaying an arrogance and odd sense of angry entitlement, being supported by a bunch of people under group hypnosis to display the worst human characteristics possible, is not my idea of fun.
I can get all that at work for 8 hours a day.
HAHAHAHAHA FUCKING AWSOME - THE WELSH LOVE YOU RUSSIA!
The overated primadonnas have fucked it up. Hahaha
we can't forfeit a tournament just to get rid of Mclaren wether it's good for England or not
I think we are missing the point with Israel and the fact they may do us a favour - nothing to play for, Avram Grant connections at Chelsea (owned by a certain billionaire Russian). Tal Ben Haim in defence - uhhh who does he play foe again. Oh yes a certain English team owned by a billionaire Russian.
A billionaire Russian who could offer anything to any country's football association...
I'm not suggesting anything here ;) but I think we are fucked
in every single sport you ever play and fail in it always ends in blame the manager or in cricket the captain. Pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Who else would you blame??Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
This is the first major event we havent qualified for in 14 years, in a fairly simple group.
it's the nature of sport Preme - you'll understand that when you get a few more years under your beltQuote:
Originally Posted by Preme
you welsh ? Isn't your manager getting the blame for your early world cup exit and didn't he resign - can't remember
The players are a lot to blame yes - but in history as with everything it's the leaders who take the blame and the ones who are axed or disposed of
now shut up