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Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's backyard?
Not to take anything away from Hatton and his performance and win over KT. I am quite a big fan of both fighters. But many criticize how Hatton allegedly gets away with more of his antics/fighting style in his backyard with his so called wrestling and roughhousing manner. Had Hatton fought KT in Vegas or Atlantic City instead of in Hattons backyard would there have been a possible different outcome to the fight?
What do you honestly feel?
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
No. An unbiased referee would of DQ'ed Hatton like he deserved.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
No. An unbiased referee would of DQ'ed Hatton like he deserved.
interesting! i wonder how many other fights Hatton had back in his hometown would of panned out had they been in america with an american ref?
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
Violent Demise may be right. I just remebered that blatant, viscious low blow he gave to Kostya, that alone may have done it.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatt
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
No. An unbiased referee would of DQ'ed Hatton like he deserved.
interesting! i wonder how many other fights Hatton had back in his hometown would of panned out had they been in america with an american ref?
Not that many. Hatton didn't turn into the hugging monster he is until recently. Hatton before that won his fights with pressure and a good body attack. It's a shame that now he rather snuggle more than fight.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
Violent Demise may be right. I just remebered that blatant, viscious low blow he gave to Kostya, that alone may have done it.
yeah speaking of that low blow i read an article that said KT had to be hospital for a week and urinated blood painfully for a week after that fight. that tells me there was some major low blow damage or atleast body shots galore done to KT that night.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatt
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
No. An unbiased referee would of DQ'ed Hatton like he deserved.
interesting! i wonder how many other fights Hatton had back in his hometown would of panned out had they been in america with an american ref?
Not that many. Hatton didn't turn into the hugging monster he is until recently. Hatton before that won his fights with pressure and a good body attack. It's a shame that now he rather snuggle more than fight.
F#ckin' SNUGGLE, LMAO!!!! CC for that one.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatt
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
No. An unbiased referee would of DQ'ed Hatton like he deserved.
interesting! i wonder how many other fights Hatton had back in his hometown would of panned out had they been in america with an american ref?
Not that many. Hatton didn't turn into the hugging monster he is until recently. Hatton before that won his fights with pressure and a good body attack. It's a shame that now he rather snuggle more than fight.
F#ckin' SNUGGLE, LMAO!!!! CC for that one.
LOL SNUGGLE? wasnt that the homosexual teddy bear spokesperson for snuggle fabric softner? lol. id post his pic but i think im not allowed to post pics till i reach a certain amount of posts first right guys?
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
Violent Demise may be right. I just remebered that blatant, viscious low blow he gave to Kostya, that alone may have done it.
yeah speaking of that low blow i read an article that said KT had to be hospital for a week and urinated blood painfully for a week after that fight. that tells me there was some major low blow damage or atleast body shots galore done to KT that night.
Yeah, I'm a big Hatton fan but that was out of line hitting him low like that. The only way it could have been more brutal is if Hatton kicked him in his little buddies.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
I could have sworn I saw Hatton once nod at that referee and then the referee broke up the clinch that had Hatton at a disadvantage. them up. Another questionable call was a legitimate body shot that made Hatton take a knee. However, the referee called it a low blow. It was a legitimate knockdown!! I have the fight and have watched it many times. I do not lie!!
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatt
NO! Tszyu gave away to many advantages to Hatton and he underestimated his opponent.(That was his fault) If the fight was in Vegas with an American ref things would have been differant, Hatton probably would have lost 3 or 4 points for a start then DQ'd in round 9!
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
hatton beat his a$$... get over it...
anyone can bash a boxers performance by coming up with hypothetical nonsense and made-up conspiracy theories...
it seems like some posters only purpose here is to bash fighters...
get over it... move on and talk about boxers you like for a change..
doesnt it get old talking sh!t and discrediting boxers you are obviously biased against???
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by Fire
hatton beat his a$$... get over it...
anyone can bash a boxers performance by coming up with hypothetical nonsense and made-up conspiracy theories...
it seems like some posters only purpose here is to bash fighters...
get over it... move on and talk about boxers you like for a change..
doesnt it get old talking sh!t and discrediting boxers you are obviously biased against???
The fact that there are so many fight fans that seem to agree that their was a biased ref, even after so long, may actually show that he was biased.???? I mean u cannot deny that Hatton was legit knocked down, and that he low blowed KT badly can u? U cannot deny that if the fight was reffed in a way that advantaged Hatton?
On the other hand I think KT can only blame himself for giving all the advantages to Ricky for extra cash. He made more money in that fight, but it cost him his career. He should have made Hatton fight him in Vegas or Sydney, even if it meant less cash, but allowed him to have a couple more fights against the likes of PBF.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
kosta got a taste of his own medicine when hatton done him with the low blow , fair play to hatton he showed he wasnt gonna be bullied or intimidated on the big stage, kosta had already done hatton wiv 2 low shots and after hatton gave him 1 back kosta didnt go down that road again, kosta was runnin out of ideas , i really dont trhink any 1 would of stopped hatton that night he was a man possessed. and im saying this as a neutral as im not hattons biggest fan, and most his performances since that night have been below par
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
The only reason Hatton hit KT with a low blow was because KT hit him with 2 low blows first. I think it wouldnt have matter where the fight was held Hatton was well up for this fight and noone was gonna beat him that night.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by Boxerharvey
The only reason Hatton hit KT with a low blow was because KT hit him with 2 low blows first. I think it wouldnt have matter where the fight was held Hatton was well up for this fight and noone was gonna beat him that night.
cc well said totally agree
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
It would not have made any difference where the fight was held .
You only have to watch Tyson or Holyfields fights over the last 20 years or so to know that American refs dont mind dirty fighters.
By the way has Koysta ever complained about this? NO
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
Violent Demise may be right. I just remebered that blatant, viscious low blow he gave to Kostya, that alone may have done it.
yeah speaking of that low blow i read an article that said KT had to be hospital for a week and urinated blood painfully for a week after that fight. that tells me there was some major low blow damage or atleast body shots galore done to KT that night.
That was following on from a low blow Kostya gave Ricky. The referee was just warning Kostya, so Ricky said he knew the referee wasn't going to DQ him when he gave Kostya a warning for the same thing. ;D
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's backyard?
Not to take anything away from Hatton and his performance and win over KT. I am quite a big fan of both fighters. But many criticize how Hatton allegedly gets away with more of his antics/fighting style in his backyard with his so called wrestling and roughhousing manner. Had Hatton fought KT in Vegas or Atlantic City instead of in Hattons backyard would there have been a possible different outcome to the fight?
What do you honestly feel?
Kostya himself has said many times he was beaten fair and square by Ricky. It would have ended the same way. Kostya retired in the 11th round. No dodgy judging, no nothing. The result would have been the same.
I hate threads like this. Not a criticism of you TUA, it's just a opening for a floodgate of haters to say how shit/lucky they think Hatton is.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
Violent Demise may be right. I just remebered that blatant, viscious low blow he gave to Kostya, that alone may have done it.
One low blow don't get you DQ come off it and Tszyu low blowed Hatton twice then Hatton retaliated.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatt
It wuold not have made a difference where the fight was held. Hatton may have been dedudcted a point but 2 things stand out:Tszyu never complained so all these ifs and buts are irrelevant and Hatton,point deduction or not,would have won.
Tszyu lost to Vince Phillips in similar fashion,and struggled with Hector Lopez too. Every fighter has their achilles heel,for Tszyu,I believe it was someone who came right at him,someone who did not give him space to breathe/dictate the pace of the fight.
And let's be honest,it's not as if Tszyu did not hit back!
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
well hatton pretty much gets slated every time he wins anyway
so to conclude.....
yes he would have lost if he fought in vegas
he should have been dq'd for taking two flush headbutts against carlos maussa
he only beat collazo because of the knockdown that clearly didnt hurt collazo.....altho the scorecards suggest that without a knockdown he would have still won an sd
he was shite against urango and he should have vacated all his titles and called it a day on the basis that he lost a whole one round
ko'ing castillo wasn't fair because castillo wasn't getting paid for the fight and that's the reason he stayed down after the body shot.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
Hattons low blow was a clever move from a smart fighter.
As has already been pointed out Kostya was the one starting to take liberties with the goolie shots, Hatton put him firmly back in his place.
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Re: Would Hatton have defeated KT if the fight was held in Vegas and not in Hatton's
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by DAVID TUA
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Might have depended alot on who the referee would have been. :-\
that is true. so u feel if the ref was like lets say hypothetically like joe cortez or jay nady and the fight was still in hatton's backyard the outcome would still be similar?
Violent Demise may be right. I just remebered that blatant, viscious low blow he gave to Kostya, that alone may have done it.
yeah speaking of that low blow i read an article that said KT had to be hospital for a week and urinated blood painfully for a week after that fight. that tells me there was some major low blow damage or atleast body shots galore done to KT that night.
The low blow was a bit shameful but IMO it was more of the shots to the body that made KT dish out all the red
