This is not a promise of anything just a measuring stick to see what the popular opinion is.
Feel free to vote and stay anonymous. I'd prefer that so I am not swayed by names and faces.
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This is not a promise of anything just a measuring stick to see what the popular opinion is.
Feel free to vote and stay anonymous. I'd prefer that so I am not swayed by names and faces.
If you have problems....dont play. You didnt pay any money to play and frankly I think you guys a being whiny. If there was say a 2 dollar entrance fee and winner gets the pot(idea) then you can complain. IMO just comes off as unappreciative. By the way thanks again BG, your doing a great job. All the math and he hasnt messed up my score yet. ;)
First off you are indeed doing a great job BG. I think the rules are mostly pretty good, it's just a frustration when you get caught out by a rule you wern't aware of.
I still lie awake at night and lament the loss of 8 points at the start of the season because some tard judge ruled the Skelton Sprott fight a draw :D
I was also annoyed I didn't realise about the alternative fighter rule last week and so didn't choose an outcome for John Duddy.
But to be honest a lot of it is awareness. Now I know of those rules I won't make those mistakes again. By contrast if you changed something next time around I might not be aware of the change and lose out again in which case I'd be stamping my hairy little hobbit feet and kicking the field mice out who share my little hole.
I no longer vote for a UD in any fight as the risk to reward ratio is too low.
But even the though the risk to reward ratio for selecting a KO round is much I'm still too much of a coward to do that either and it's those big point hauls that risk takers such as WelshDevilRob, No Contest and Trainer Monkey earn from being bolder than I that seperates them from me.
So all in all I think the rules are ok, certainly workable once you are aware of them all.
The only changes I'd like to see are an increase in fights from the UK to be used in the competition. The British domestic scene is barely covered and as this is a largely British website I'd like to see that addressed.
I'd also happily vote for the exclusion of the top 3 in the competition on the grounds of too many jammy picks. :)
The only changes I'd like to see are an increase in fights from the UK to be used in the competition. The British domestic scene is barely covered and as this is a largely British website I'd like to see that addressed. Bilbo
I have a homework assinement for you. Go back to the first week and count how many UK fights I have in the contest compared to how many were available on boxrec.com
I think I've done well for the most part. I looked over the Johansson/Gomez fight because Gomez was coming off two KO losses and two 6 round bouts to fight a man that would surley kick his arse.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...9358&cat=boxer Gomez
No, I didn't pay any money to play, but neither did you. Saddo gets more money from advertisers if he has more traffic. The contest is designed to bring in more posters. So essentially, we are paying Saddo by playing this game! In return he gives us the site to play on. Irregardless, you're argument makes no sense. Why would you want to have rules that don't make any logical sense when some posters are only 1 point behind others and thus, the one point rule I'm complaining about could make all the difference in whether or not me or any other poster wins a prize. This means the contest is slanted, making it unintentionally corrupt. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
BG works hard for us to even have this competition for no pay, but we need to get it right or there's absolutely no point in having prizes.
BTW I get worked on those european fights. Thank god for boxrec so I could get some info on some of these guys....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
The rules are fine and you're doing a great job BG.
I am fine with the rules. No problem with me.
Jesus Bilbo,most of the fights are freaking European,half the time us domestic guys are guessing on them
These rules work great and dont need changing, certainly not in the middle of a season (you've got me sounding all American BG ;D)...
The change of opponent rule is miniscule and simple to fix. It's only one point so just scrap the entire fight and nobody misses out.
And CC BG. Don't let the whining maggots get to ya.
Honest to christ,what was it,last week I had all the winners right,but I bet hard and lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I just Pm'ed him,no need for a stink
Trust me Id love to catch Welsh,and No COntest,but the rules are the rules,and they were the rules when we signed on,and fine job by BG for sorting through it every week
Don't get me wrong BG I think you are doing a great job, although you are wrong about the Johansson Gomez fight. The bookies here couldn't split them and had it a dead even fight at 5/6 each, and on paper it was the most evenly split fight of the entire weekend, as well as by far the best!Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
This is a British site monkey I'm a domestic you're a damn foreigner ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
so let me get this right... the main problem i can see is that people cant be bothered to read the rules before playing rather than the rules themselfs.
no more needs saying on that AS EVERYONE HAS THE SAME CHANCE...
Bilbo... to BG's defence the Gomez fight was not important to him and he cant be expected to know the popularity of every single boxer in there hometowns worldwide.
if you want him to add any upcoming fights try PM'in him before he creats his sunday list and he can take a look at it... aftawards is too late.... but he will always have the final say if it is added or not as this is his baby.
Illuminated this site would be busy with or without the prediction contest it is here as a FREE service and not a money making masterplan on my part.
So BG as above this is your baby and if you feel anything needs tweeking, tweek it.... but i wouldn't bother if it is only because people are to lazy to read the rules before playing. ;)
but if you think its wrong change it... you do all the work on this and have the final say on whatever happens ;)
Hey Saddo I agree with you completely.
But people asking for small changes isn't moaning. Everybody is grateful for all the work Boxing Gorilla does, it's just some people would like a couple of minor changes whilst others are happy with the ways things are.
Everybody's opinions should be valued as the contest is only as good as the people participating in it.
I know you didn't day this but saying you play for free so if you don't like it don't play isn't helpful or warranted.
Everything in life changes and develop and as this contest (hopefully) grows more and more the participants may decide that some changes will make things run even better.
It's not an ungrateful attitude or a slate at Boxing Gorilla or anyone else.
If nobody ever wanted anything to change we'd still all be living in huts made of straw and animal dung after all. :)
small changes are fine a total overhaul is fine but if it is because they didnt read the rules before playing then that is i'm afraid moaning ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
but what do you want changed?
To be honest on reflection I'm fairly happy with things the they are. I think maybe the points system is a little bit too in favour of KO victories, i.e 15 points for getting the correct round whilst only a 2 point loss from 6 if you get it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
By contrast it's the same 6 points for a win, with 7 for a UD or 10 for SD or MD but get it wrong and you drop 4 points and get just two.
I think you should get 4 if you make a points prediction and get it wrong rather than just 2 as it's out of line with the KO's.
Regarding the change of opponent now I know the rule it's not a problem to me. But it does reward players who have more time on their hands and are able to get onto the website all week round as opposed to others who maybe wouldn't have time to check to see if a change of opponent has occured and whether they should alter their picks.
For those people with such things as a social life outside of Saddo's then it's probably fairer that any change of opponent fights are voided.
As I said before I'd also like to see more domestic fights but I guess that everyone feels that way wherever they are. And you are quite right about BG obviously not having the knowledge to know which fights in every country are going to be competitive.
Overall I'm happy and would continue to play with or without any rule changes.
Bilbo,if its any consolation,I just check their stats,their records and make my picks
Yeah I make them with an understanding of how things are supposed to work in the game,but thats cause I know the game
Even then it doesnt allways come out right
The heavyweight at Raley field was supposed to have an early night of it,he did,but in totally the wrong fashion ;D
Oh one more thing I should say is that the biggest compliment we can possibly pay BG this year is that like a great boxing referee we havn't noticed him at all.
I take it for granted that the new fight selections will be up on a Sunday night, and that after every weekend everybody will have their totals added up correctly, that the league table will be accurate and timely updated and that the thread will be locked just before any fights take place to avoid cheating.
BG has managed to achieve this week in week out thus ensuring the competition has run smoothly and without a hitch.
You know something is going well when people can afford to criticise the minor points like slight rule changes rather than having to make vast number of 'You got my scores wrong!' or 'You forgot to lock the thread!' type posts.
He's done a great job! :)
Lol, actually as I said above I'm really not arguing for any rule changes myself, if people like it the way it is then I am more than happy to keep playing with things as they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I just don't think people who suggest change should be labelled as ungrateful and told to sod off as some people seem to imply!
But its been a fun competition and although I've given up on catching the two runaway leaders I am still very much battling to steal your third place spot.
Keep an eye behind you cos this little hobbit is charging through! ;D
Im starting to lose hope on catching those two,hell I have the most single week achievments and every time I pull close,it somehow goes south on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
or maybe drop the points on the KO round picks that are wrong to make it more of a gamble to pick rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
but saying that everyone has the same rules to play with so it is fair but point taken ;)
Trust me,this is way fairer then the sport itself
At least we're all playing with the same set of rules
correct ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Huh??? Your crying over a 1 point policy that everyone has to live with if you read the rules. How can a rule be "unfair" if we all have to deal with it. I predicted the round and ko on the Duddy fight(with Arron in mind) and got 1 point. Did I start bitching that he should have changed the fight earlier? No, I dealt with it like you should. Last minute switches happen all the time in boxing. What is your fix by the way? Illuminated and Bilbo, I didnt come away from your posts with any solutions. Your both little babies who when they arent winning begin to cry foul play. I think you guys are taking it a bit too seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Illuminated
I like the rules as they are. Picking the exact round for a KO is a gamble as you know that it's unlikely and your'll drop 2 points when it doesn't happen. But the risk is upto the player and can also be a good way of getting you big points and back in contention. :)
I hope the rules don't change halfway through this competition as I don't think that is right. We all knew the rules (or should have) when we entered the competition. It's the individuals own fault if he/she couldn't take 5 minutes to read them but I believe the majority will have.
What works in alot of other places is picking the results by rounds 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and points or draw.
2 points correct fighter extra 3 for correctly picking the segment. (TD comes under points).
But to be honest I prefer the scoring system here as it has more options.
Anyway the competition is still very competitive at this stage and there are many weeks still to go.
Thanks for your time and effort in running the show BG. 8) (CC+)
I'm happy with the way things are!
;)
Let's say we're allowed to add our own fights that weren't included from now on, yet no one adds the same fights. That's an example of howa rule can be unfair. The rule in question is unfair because people who picked the opponenet who is no longer fighting, have zero chance to earn a point for absolutely no reason under their control. Yet people who picked a boxer to defeat his originxal opponenet still have a chance if theyre guy doesn't drop out even if he fights a total can when he was scheduled to fight a world class top 5 guy. How is that fair?Quote:
Huh??? Your crying over a 1 point policy that everyone has to live with if you read the rules. How can a rule be "unfair" if we all have to deal with it.
People had already started predicting at that time. He wasn't in a position to change the fight. Therefore, the new fight should be voided since some players, in this case including you, picked him to defeat another opponent than the man he fought.Quote:
I predicted the round and ko on the Duddy fight(with Arron in mind) and got 1 point. Did I start bitching that he should have changed the fight earlier?
Is it me or are you trying to make this personal? If this isn't a big deal, then why are you acting as such?Quote:
No, I dealt with it like you should.
And your point proving how this rule is fair is?Quote:
Last minute switches happen all the time in boxing.
What do you mean?Quote:
What is your fix by the way?
Then you didn't read my posts.Quote:
Illuminated and Bilbo, I didnt come away from your posts with any solutions.
I'm beginning to think more and more you're a failed boxer who took way too many blows to the head.Quote:
Your both little babies who when they arent winning begin to cry foul play. I think you guys are taking it a bit too seriously.
Lets call a spade a spade, your a whiner. I agree noone should get a point if the opponent changes. My point...the contest has already started and to change halfway through is not fair. I'm sure BG doesnt want to cycle through all the cancelled fights and rework the scores. Kind of funny that a guy that has taken to many shots to the head as you say is kicking your ass in the comp...so whats that make you? Braindead? Its personal now buddy it wasnt before. I must have just scanned over your posts and missed your solution, sorry about that but your still a whiner.
Thank you. 8)Quote:
Lets call a spade a spade, your a whiner. I agree noone should get a point if the opponent changes.
Thank you. 8)Quote:
My point...the contest has already started and to change halfway through is not fair. I'm sure BG doesnt want to cycle through all the cancelled fights and rework the scores. Kind of funny that a guy that has taken to many shots to the head as you say is kicking your a** in the comp...so whats that make you? Braindead? Its personal now buddy it wasnt before. I must have just scanned over your posts and missed your solution, sorry about that but your still a whiner.
It's always much easier when they prove your point for you. :D
You may have won this battle but your losing the war my friend(the comp). All you are accomplishing by complaining is tarnishing the comp. A pm to BG asking for a rule change would have been the way I would have done it. No biggie lets stop this pissing war.
Oh by the way.... when I win ;D I would like to donate any prize or $$$ equivalent to Gerald McClellans fund(he was one of my favorites)....I know its not much but still think that would be my little payment to him for all the great k.o.'s. Is that cool with you BG?
Now that is definitely 100% Saddo territory.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
The PL is just fine and dandy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it.
Thanks for your good work.
If its a problem at all, then nm. I'll handle it on my end.
Getting fight predictions in on time and not during or after results would be fair. ::**
I think we should have the option of throwing $ into the pot, it doesn't matter if you don't, you still get crowned as the winner but the pot goes to the paying player with highest score.
And it should be run with a percentage to Saddo, a percentage to BG and the balance to the winner. The competition could end up generating quite a bit of coin. 8)
I think we should ban any Welsh entrants
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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I second the motion to ban Welsh entrants or if that seems to broad and all encompassing, I vote to ban all people with the words "Devil" or "Rob" in thier names.