Does Britain want Kahn to fail?

Just wondering personally.....from what i have read from british posters on here and from what i have heard from talking to casual boxing fans.

Seems like were all waiting for the wheels to fall off. Bilbo touched on something in an earlier thread. He said....

'In the UK we like our sporting stars to be humble and self effacing. Ideally they will also fall just short of true greatness, as we pride ourselves on failing admirably rather than winning dominantly.'

I'm wondering if Kahn is the exception to this in the way that he is very self confident and he doesn't look like he is going to fail admirably....barring the one fight he has been very dominant.

Is it the mentality of the British fans? We all seemed to want Audley to fail as well which is a bit strange.

ALSO.....

Hamed became disliked.....his own fault maybe

froch is fairly disliked

as is junior witter.....all quality fighters.

Do us Brits just not like cockiness? Is Amir Kahn cocky?

Can anybody shed any light on this?

I cant speak for the whole of Britain but I hope he fails. Just as everytime I watched Nas I was hoping someone knocked him cold.

I just like seeing cocky guys take a beating .

Britain doesn't want him cos he is from Pakistan - that is the truth.

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well he's from bolton....but the general public are morons. Let's face it they let Mr Blobby get to number 1 in the charts.

I get the impression that race does come into it. Not speakin on behalf of anyone on this forum by the way. I mean from what i hear from the general public.....it's a shame because he is british but there ya go.....

Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Yeah, I agree completely with you Saddo, this has nothing to do with race it is purely that Khan can be cocky at times, and there is an awful lot of hype about him which naturally means jealousy. Hopefully he'll develop the defence to protect that chin and at least compete at proper international level.

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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touchy subject.....that's why i never mentioned it in the initial post.

Disagree with him having a dodgy chin....and i believe personally that an olympic silver medal at 17 deserves huge credit.

So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Yeah, I agree completely with you Saddo, this has nothing to do with race it is purely that Khan can be cocky at times, and there is an awful lot of hype about him which naturally means jealousy. Hopefully he'll develop the defence to protect that chin and at least compete at proper international level.

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I think it's more confidence than cockiness.

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Thats an interesting point, cuz I thought I hated all arrogant fighters but I like Witter, Floyd is the man, Joe used to be abit cocky and I like him so I suppose its the arrogance in the ring I dont like . Nas used to ask for it and Kahn has dropped his gloves a couple times . I liked Bomber Graham though

Didnt like Toney when he was a loudmouth but hes good . Camacho was another showman I loved watching get chopped down by Chavez .

The only defense Khan needs to learn is defensive driving, so he doesn't crack people crossing the street ;D J.K. :P

yeah nothing wrong with cockyness if you back it up ;)

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So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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yeah thats about the top and bottom of it for me he hasnt beat anyone and looked in trouble a few times at this piss poor level.... so all the hype is uncalled for ;)

his chin is suss though ;D

I also never liked the fact that boxers who have achived more where pushed to an itv3 spot while he was topping the bills on itv1

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Britain doesn't want him cos he is from Pakistan - that is the truth.

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Nothing to do with it. I think he will fail before he gets to top level, the media are to blame for hyping him up to buggery in the first place. If he loses to an average fighter who has some clout Britain will look even more stupid for claiming Amir was so great and all. A bit like Naz but Naz DID have something very special which he totally fucked up with his overconfidence.

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yeah nothing wrong with cockyness if you back it up ;)

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So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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yeah thats about the top and bottom of it for me he hasnt beat anyone and looked in trouble a few times at this piss poor level.... so all the hype is uncalled for ;)

his chin is suss though ;D

I also never liked the fact that boxers who have achived more where pushed to an itv3 spot while he was topping the bills on itv1

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yeh the hype is annoying but i reckon us guys on here are capable of looking past the hype to make up our own mind about him. ITV just piss me off everytime they show boxing. So many good exciting fights they miss off the bill because they show 4 re runs of ami kahn fighting a sub teacher.

suppose that isn't kahn's faul tho.

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yeah nothing wrong with cockyness if you back it up ;)

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So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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yeah thats about the top and bottom of it for me he hasnt beat anyone and looked in trouble a few times at this piss poor level.... so all the hype is uncalled for ;)

his chin is suss though ;D

I also never liked the fact that boxers who have achived more where pushed to an itv3 spot while he was topping the bills on itv1

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yeh the hype is annoying but i reckon us guys on here are capable of looking past the hype to make up our own mind about him. ITV just piss me off everytime they show boxing. So many good exciting fights they miss off the bill because they show 4 re runs of ami kahn fighting a sub teacher.

suppose that isn't kahn's faul tho.

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i do see past the hype... listen i would love him to prove me wrong and be the future but there are a few sub standard boxers had him reeling so its inevitable that a higher class boxer will take him out.

just my opinion on him really... but saying all that i wish him well ;)

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yeah nothing wrong with cockyness if you back it up ;)

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So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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yeah thats about the top and bottom of it for me he hasnt beat anyone and looked in trouble a few times at this piss poor level.... so all the hype is uncalled for ;)

his chin is suss though ;D

I also never liked the fact that boxers who have achived more where pushed to an itv3 spot while he was topping the bills on itv1

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yeh the hype is annoying but i reckon us guys on here are capable of looking past the hype to make up our own mind about him. ITV just piss me off everytime they show boxing. So many good exciting fights they miss off the bill because they show 4 re runs of ami kahn fighting a sub teacher.

suppose that isn't kahn's faul tho.

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i do see past the hype... listen i would love him to prove me wrong and be the future but there are a few sub standard boxers had him reeling so its inevitable that a higher class boxer will take him out.

just my opinion on him really... but saying all that i wish him well ;)

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ah well at least ya didnt say ya wanna see him get knocked out. Bonus! ;D

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Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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touchy subject.....that's why i never mentioned it in the initial post.

Disagree with him having a dodgy chin....and i believe personally that an olympic silver medal at 17 deserves huge credit.

So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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You don't think Amir's chinny? Even though he was dropped by a guy who had...like a handbag in his hand??

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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touchy subject.....that's why i never mentioned it in the initial post.

Disagree with him having a dodgy chin....and i believe personally that an olympic silver medal at 17 deserves huge credit.

So its the hype that annoys you the most! Fair point.

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You don't think Amir's chinny? Even though he was dropped by a guy who had...like a handbag in his hand??

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nope because the shot that hurt him caught him high on the temple so that makes him temple-ey....nothing to do with his actual chin.

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Originally Posted by ono

Just wondering personally.....from what i have read from british posters on here and from what i have heard from talking to casual boxing fans.

Seems like were all waiting for the wheels to fall off. Bilbo touched on something in an earlier thread. He said....

'In the UK we like our sporting stars to be humble and self effacing. Ideally they will also fall just short of true greatness, as we pride ourselves on failing admirably rather than winning dominantly.'

I'm wondering if Kahn is the exception to this in the way that he is very self confident and he doesn't look like he is going to fail admirably....barring the one fight he has been very dominant.

Is it the mentality of the British fans? We all seemed to want Audley to fail as well which is a bit strange.

ALSO.....

Hamed became disliked.....his own fault maybe

froch is fairly disliked

as is junior witter.....all quality fighters.

Do us Brits just not like cockiness? Is Amir Kahn cocky?

Can anybody shed any light on this?

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Britain wanted Harrison to fail? Why is that?

Do not agree with earlier posts that state Kahn is cocky. I think is attitude is one of his positives. To support earlier posts, I just think that the press have gone completely over the top with him. Then again, this is not Kahn's fault, and the press coverage seems worse because the national press in Britain give so little space to boxing anyway. True boxing fans, I am sure , would like to see more about other fighters at British, European and world level in the papers; maybe negativity towards the press finds its way to Kahn. That said, can't see him winning a world title.

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Originally Posted by ono

Just wondering personally.....from what i have read from british posters on here and from what i have heard from talking to casual boxing fans.

Seems like were all waiting for the wheels to fall off. Bilbo touched on something in an earlier thread. He said....

'In the UK we like our sporting stars to be humble and self effacing. Ideally they will also fall just short of true greatness, as we pride ourselves on failing admirably rather than winning dominantly.'

I'm wondering if Kahn is the exception to this in the way that he is very self confident and he doesn't look like he is going to fail admirably....barring the one fight he has been very dominant.

Is it the mentality of the British fans? We all seemed to want Audley to fail as well which is a bit strange.

ALSO.....

Hamed became disliked.....his own fault maybe

froch is fairly disliked

as is junior witter.....all quality fighters.

Do us Brits just not like cockiness? Is Amir Kahn cocky?

Can anybody shed any light on this?

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Britain wanted Harrison to fail? Why is that?

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because he believed in himself (which is obviously cockiness) i presume....and he wanted to do it it his own way.....promote his own fights etc...bit silly.

doesnt matter if you want him to fail or not , fact is he will fail the second he fight a durable guy with power.

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Originally Posted by ono

Just wondering personally.....from what i have read from british posters on here and from what i have heard from talking to casual boxing fans.

Seems like were all waiting for the wheels to fall off. Bilbo touched on something in an earlier thread. He said....

'In the UK we like our sporting stars to be humble and self effacing. Ideally they will also fall just short of true greatness, as we pride ourselves on failing admirably rather than winning dominantly.'

I'm wondering if Kahn is the exception to this in the way that he is very self confident and he doesn't look like he is going to fail admirably....barring the one fight he has been very dominant.

Is it the mentality of the British fans? We all seemed to want Audley to fail as well which is a bit strange.

ALSO.....

Hamed became disliked.....his own fault maybe

froch is fairly disliked

as is junior witter.....all quality fighters.

Do us Brits just not like cockiness? Is Amir Kahn cocky?

Can anybody shed any light on this?

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i think he's overated and theres something about his dad i just dont like. so i hope he gets knocked out some time soon.

Well, I can't help thinking that race IS something to do with it.

Pakistanis are quite recent immigrants to Britain, so they tend to be poorer and perhaps not as well educated as some of the other immigrant groups, like Indians say. That means that there is some tension in the areas where they live with the other communities in the area.

In this day and age, unfortunately, it doesn't help that they are muslim .... and the British pakistani youth are an easy target for radicalisation by some extremist organisations (because they are poor and disaffected). Pakistanis also retain striong ties with Pakistan, even if they have been in Britain a long time (like the Chinese do with China), they stick together and don't integrate well and that seems to be the source of some conflict too.

It's a shame, as I know loys of Pakistanis, but people tend to use stereotypes and generalisations about their entire community - and there are always a few arseholes on both sides to stir up trouble.

It's a shame, as Khan seems like a nice lad, dedicated and talented ... and it's not his fault.

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Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Yeah, I agree completely with you Saddo, this has nothing to do with race it is purely that Khan can be cocky at times, and there is an awful lot of hype about him which naturally means jealousy. Hopefully he'll develop the defence to protect that chin and at least compete at proper international level.

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:coolclick: s 1283 & 787 to ya bwoss & rhun.

Being a Yank...I probably shouldn't comment...but I kinda have to.

First & foremost...the kid's a Brit & it's ridiculous to even bring race up due to the tone of his skin or where his parents sprouted from. If Khan's shacked up in Brit-land then odds are he's Brit-land citi-zan...he fights for Brit-land & resides there...he is British.

Honestly...I have never heard anyone say that they wanted to see him lose...but maybe I just wasnt listening enough. The thing is...he has a right to be cocky. Look what he's done & how old he is.

I mean youv'e got greatness thrust upon you in your game, your'e being pimped by the biggest pimp in the game, & your'e being groomed to be the highest paid trick on the street...nothing wrong with having some princess like qualities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZKeAzAwSnU

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Bullsh*t!!

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Originally Posted by ono

Just wondering personally.....from what i have read from british posters on here and from what i have heard from talking to casual boxing fans.

Seems like were all waiting for the wheels to fall off. Bilbo touched on something in an earlier thread. He said....

'In the UK we like our sporting stars to be humble and self effacing. Ideally they will also fall just short of true greatness, as we pride ourselves on failing admirably rather than winning dominantly.'

I'm wondering if Kahn is the exception to this in the way that he is very self confident and he doesn't look like he is going to fail admirably....barring the one fight he has been very dominant.

Is it the mentality of the British fans? We all seemed to want Audley to fail as well which is a bit strange.

ALSO.....

Hamed became disliked.....his own fault maybe

froch is fairly disliked

as is junior witter.....all quality fighters.

Do us Brits just not like cockiness? Is Amir Kahn cocky?

Can anybody shed any light on this?

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Britain wanted Harrison to fail? Why is that?

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all talk. no walk, or to put it more crudely, all fart no sh*t ;D

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Well, I can't help thinking that race IS something to do with it.

Pakistanis are quite recent immigrants to Britain, so they tend to be poorer and perhaps not as well educated as some of the other immigrant groups, like Indians say. That means that there is some tension in the areas where they live with the other communities in the area.

In this day and age, unfortunately, it doesn't help that they are muslim .... and the British pakistani youth are an easy target for radicalisation by some extremist organisations (because they are poor and disaffected). Pakistanis also retain striong ties with Pakistan, even if they have been in Britain a long time (like the Chinese do with China), they stick together and don't integrate well and that seems to be the source of some conflict too.

It's a shame, as I know loys of Pakistanis, but people tend to use stereotypes and generalisations about their entire community - and there are always a few arseholes on both sides to stir up trouble.

It's a shame, as Khan seems like a nice lad, dedicated and talented ... and it's not his fault.

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Have to agree, it`s hard to talk about Khan without his race being mentioned. While I actually like the lad, the fact that he is of Pakistani decent has made him a more public figure that can`t really be denied. Whilst any fighter getting a silver at the Olympics aged 17 deserves praise and attention, Khans race made him an even more focal figure. There have been numerous debates in England as to why there are no Asian (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh) footballers, it`s just as rare to see Asian boxers.

There used to be a footballer at Leeds called Harpal Singh who many people thought would be the first British Asian to make an impact, and was often in magazines etc but unfortunately he didn`t make it. Until British Asians become a regular sight in sport (excluding cricket) then unfortunately their race will always be brought into conversation.

I wouldn't mind seeing khan succeed. I just don't think he will.

Hopefully he proves me wrong.

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Well, I can't help thinking that race IS something to do with it.

Pakistanis are quite recent immigrants to Britain, so they tend to be poorer and perhaps not as well educated as some of the other immigrant groups, like Indians say. That means that there is some tension in the areas where they live with the other communities in the area.

In this day and age, unfortunately, it doesn't help that they are muslim .... and the British pakistani youth are an easy target for radicalisation by some extremist organisations (because they are poor and disaffected). Pakistanis also retain striong ties with Pakistan, even if they have been in Britain a long time (like the Chinese do with China), they stick together and don't integrate well and that seems to be the source of some conflict too.

It's a shame, as I know loys of Pakistanis, but people tend to use stereotypes and generalisations about their entire community - and there are always a few arseholes on both sides to stir up trouble.

It's a shame, as Khan seems like a nice lad, dedicated and talented ... and it's not his fault.

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CC i tend to agree with you.

Khan has got the attention and hype because of what he achieved in the Olympics and as Audley Harrison has learned he can milk that attention and publicity which would have been given to any white fighter who had achieved the same.

I wish Khan's entourage would calm down during fights. Every time he hit Scott Lawton they leapt up out of their seats (probably blocking the view of everyone else) and went berserk. Repeatedly. I wish they would show a bit of dignity, after all Lawton barely landed a punch throughout.

What are you talking about dignity, your man is in the ring and winning, you would be jumping up and down like a lunatic if he was related to you. Sure his dad looks weird but that no reason to hate Amir.

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I wish Khan's entourage would calm down during fights. Every time he hit Scott Lawton they leapt up out of their seats (probably blocking the view of everyone else) and went berserk. Repeatedly. I wish they would show a bit of dignity, after all Lawton barely landed a punch throughout.

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Master is right.Besides, if the kid has his familly & freinds behind him like that, then its only a good thing. Im sure the paying public see it like that...

Unless there ony there to see him get beat ::**

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Well, I can't help thinking that race IS something to do with it.

Pakistanis are quite recent immigrants to Britain, so they tend to be poorer and perhaps not as well educated as some of the other immigrant groups, like Indians say. That means that there is some tension in the areas where they live with the other communities in the area.

In this day and age, unfortunately, it doesn't help that they are muslim .... and the British pakistani youth are an easy target for radicalisation by some extremist organisations (because they are poor and disaffected). Pakistanis also retain striong ties with Pakistan, even if they have been in Britain a long time (like the Chinese do with China), they stick together and don't integrate well and that seems to be the source of some conflict too.

It's a shame, as I know loys of Pakistanis, but people tend to use stereotypes and generalisations about their entire community - and there are always a few arseholes on both sides to stir up trouble.

It's a shame, as Khan seems like a nice lad, dedicated and talented ... and it's not his fault.

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Yeah, its impossible not to mention race. I mean, the poor kid is HAVING to wear union jack trunks...! Which im sure wasnt out of choice and im sure its simply to retain popularity within the mainstream audience.

Its all political really but hey... sign of the times peeps.

He's a good lad. Typical type for his age really. Apart from all the motivation, dedication etc ::**

I dont wish to see him fail by any means. Just realise that the mainstream audience is getting bored of watching him succeding against stiffs.

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Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Yeah, I agree completely with you Saddo, this has nothing to do with race it is purely that Khan can be cocky at times, and there is an awful lot of hype about him which naturally means jealousy. Hopefully he'll develop the defence to protect that chin and at least compete at proper international level.

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:coolclick: s 1283 & 787 to ya bwoss & rhun.

Being a Yank...I probably shouldn't comment...but I kinda have to.

First & foremost...the kid's a Brit & it's ridiculous to even bring race up due to the tone of his skin or where his parents sprouted from. If Khan's shacked up in Brit-land then odds are he's Brit-land citi-zan...he fights for Brit-land & resides there...he is British.

Honestly...I have never heard anyone say that they wanted to see him lose...but maybe I just wasnt listening enough. The thing is...he has a right to be cocky. Look what he's done & how old he is.

I mean youv'e got greatness thrust upon you in your game, your'e being pimped by the biggest pimp in the game, & your'e being groomed to be the highest paid trick on the street...nothing wrong with having some princess like qualities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZKeAzAwSnU

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that about covers it I reckon! Of all the sports, im my experience, your gonna find very little racism within boxing.

If anyone wants Amir to fail cos he's asian then they should probably go to the gym and get battered around by a 17 year old asian lad with quick hands (been there :-[) and they will soon learn some respect!

I can honestly say I know a good number of lads that like their boxing and Ive NEVER heard any of them cheer against a fighter cos he was asian.

I DID want Naz to lose....but thats because he was an arrogant wan*er :)

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Lets not turn this post into race as it has nothing to do with it what so ever.

I would love Khan to dominate hes got speed and his power seems to be coming with age...

BUT for me the hype around him is uncalled for as his chin will let him down at a higher level.

i'm a fan of Witters, Froch is OK and was a massive Naz fan.

but for me Khan is a novice with a suss chin and gets far to much credit... no more no less ;)

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Yeah, I agree completely with you Saddo, this has nothing to do with race it is purely that Khan can be cocky at times, and there is an awful lot of hype about him which naturally means jealousy. Hopefully he'll develop the defence to protect that chin and at least compete at proper international level.

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:coolclick: s 1283 & 787 to ya bwoss & rhun.

Being a Yank...I probably shouldn't comment...but I kinda have to.

First & foremost...the kid's a Brit & it's ridiculous to even bring race up due to the tone of his skin or where his parents sprouted from. If Khan's shacked up in Brit-land then odds are he's Brit-land citi-zan...he fights for Brit-land & resides there...he is British.

Honestly...I have never heard anyone say that they wanted to see him lose...but maybe I just wasnt listening enough. The thing is...he has a right to be cocky. Look what he's done & how old he is.

I mean youv'e got greatness thrust upon you in your game, your'e being pimped by the biggest pimp in the game, & your'e being groomed to be the highest paid trick on the street...nothing wrong with having some princess like qualities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZKeAzAwSnU

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that about covers it I reckon! Of all the sports, im my experience, your gonna find very little racism within boxing.

If anyone wants Amir to fail cos he's asian then they should probably go to the gym and get battered around by a 17 year old asian lad with quick hands (been there :-[) and they will soon learn some respect!

I can honestly say I know a good number of lads that like their boxing and Ive NEVER heard any of them cheer against a fighter cos he was asian.

I DID want Naz to lose....but thats because he was an arrogant wan*er :)

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and anyway Naz isnt Asian he's Arab which is completely different.like russians and english for example we both might have white skin but completley different

i am dissilusioned by Amir's hype nothing to do with his race (my kids are mixed race)
but his race is what has got him more media attention but that ist his fault unlessof course we want himto do a jacko and bleach his skin.
i h8 the way he seems egotistical
saying that i enjoyed his last fight (onli one i have enjoyed so far though)
and i do believe the hype will outlive his chin ;D but thats just my opinion

Katfight I think you should have said his hype will outlive his skin colour.

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Yeah, its impossible not to mention race. I mean, the poor kid is HAVING to wear union jack trunks...! Which im sure wasnt out of choice and im sure its simply to retain popularity within the mainstream audience.

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Hang on a minute. He won a silver medal representing Britain as part of the Great Britain Olympics team.

"I'm Asian but I'm British - I was born here, I went to school here, all my mates are British and I'm proud to represent my country."

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Originally Posted by The Boogie Man

Yeah, its impossible not to mention race. I mean, the poor kid is HAVING to wear union jack trunks...! Which im sure wasnt out of choice and im sure its simply to retain popularity within the mainstream audience.

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Hang on a minute. He won a silver medal representing Britain as part of the Great Britain Olympics team.

"I'm Asian but I'm British - I was born here, I went to school here, all my mates are British and I'm proud to represent my country."

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Like i say, its all polotics.

Are you telling me you didnt cringe a bit when Khan made his 1st ring entrance to 'Rule Britania' ::** ;D

Dont insult my intelligence Fenny boy ;)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by The Boogie Man

Yeah, its impossible not to mention race. I mean, the poor kid is HAVING to wear union jack trunks...! Which im sure wasnt out of choice and im sure its simply to retain popularity within the mainstream audience.

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Hang on a minute. He won a silver medal representing Britain as part of the Great Britain Olympics team.

"I'm Asian but I'm British - I was born here, I went to school here, all my mates are British and I'm proud to represent my country."

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Like i say, its all polotics.

Are you telling me you didnt cringe a bit when Khan made his 1st ring entrance to 'Rule Britania' ::** ;D

Dont insult my intelligence Fenny boy ;)

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I don't think I understand what you mean. :-\

Are you saying he's not really proud to represent Britain - he's FAKING it?

How about Lennox Lewis or Ricky Hatton? They both fought/fight with the Union Jack on their shorts?

If Amir had a choice I believe he may not want to have that pompous British flag waving nationalistic rubbish that surrounded some of his fights.

He probably would prefer to fight in white shorts wearing the Bolton badge on his trunks.