Herbie Hide ??

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10-27-2007, 12:16 AM
Spicoli

Herbie Hide ??

I'm re-doing some lists and Going through some old tapes and came across Hides Fights with Percell Davis(ugghh) and Michael Bent.Surprised hes still around.
Needless to say over here I do not have the opportunity to see Sky or any other Network bouts from across the Pond and am wondering if Hes still viable and legit Contender?He looked to have good power and movement but a brittle chin ?
The only other time I had seen him in the states was His fight with Riddick bowe...ouch.I checked on Boxrec and He looks to have dropped down to Cruiser albeit against Grade c Opponents?Also looks like he Has some run ins with the law.Can he do anything at Cruiser?
Can any fan with Insight and info on current status and what the real deal is fill me In?Much appreciated and thanks alot .
10-27-2007, 12:25 AM
ono

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he's pretty much done with i'd say.....as far as doin anything meaningful goes
10-27-2007, 12:38 AM
Wright

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seems to be fighting out of Germany. 4 fights this year (I think) and all wins. Was average, still is, won't ever be any different.
10-27-2007, 01:24 AM
Saddo

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heres what he had to say to us last year...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3953-excl...rbie-hide.html

so the attitude was still there ;D ;D ;D
10-27-2007, 02:04 AM
Deanrw

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by Saddo

heres what he had to say to us last year...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3953-excl...rbie-hide.html

so the attitude was still there ;D ;D ;D

LOL Hold On! Hold On! Don't go dissin Herbie like dat! He'll go to your gym and take you outside! ;D

He definitely is not suffering from a lack of confidence!hehe
10-27-2007, 02:06 AM
DaxxKahn

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Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though
10-27-2007, 02:30 AM
Beanflicker

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Agreed Daxx, better suited as a cruiser.

And wow, the guy has an attitude to match his punching power
10-27-2007, 02:45 AM
eagle

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though

It probably made him more money in the short term tho. There wasnt that many big names in the cruisr division when Herbie decided to be a HW.
10-27-2007, 02:47 AM
Spicoli

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by Saddo

heres what he had to say to us last year...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3953-excl...rbie-hide.html

so the attitude was still there ;D ;D ;D

Wow,Its sitting right under my nose.Thanks for the connect Saddo,Very reveling.
Only judging from Interview....He sounds like a paper tiger?Calling out Harrison after 2 straight losses,Guess he wanted a piece of headline and saw the writing on the wall as far as audleys weakness.
I have to ask why move to a Mega fight town in Vegas and not get in the mix of Media and more than enough "opponents".Is he still under contract overseas?He rips on not getting fights..KOs a 3-5 guy and even brags on doing it without all punches landed LOl.Must have WILLED him KO'D,and then..... sits out 6 more months of inactivity.
Sounds like he really doesn't want to be overhere ,Does not even answer question about Eddie Mustapha Muhammad but instead reflects on Jimmy McDonnell.... Understandable though.
Hes also very Rigid on "I'm not a Heavy" over and over.Oddly though from what I've seen He Might make some noise at Cruiser if he just gets in the Mix with descent guys He has fast hands and mobility and from what Ive seen he can bang (Bent KO was sad sh!!)I'd like to see him in a go."Bell couldn't clean my toilet" Lol,Good line but Imo should get in the ring overhere to build up spotlight.
He does sound like a Very proud Man (?) and is proud of Homeland!
Great insight Saddo.Thanks alot for the education.Good stuff :coolclick:
10-27-2007, 02:54 AM
eagle

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The last i remember seeing Herbie was when he got owned by V Klitshko. There was a big build up for the fight, the British commentators had Herbie as favourite!!! Then Pow it was over in 2.
10-27-2007, 02:59 AM
Spicoli

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though

It probably made him more money in the short term tho. There wasnt that many big names in the cruisr division when Herbie decided to be a HW.

Do you Think He can do damage In top 10 Cruisers??
It always seems the Good Cruisers get a $$$ itch and Move up to Heavy where they come crashing down (Sometimes).If he can fight like he talks ...Just save time and give him the belt now ;D. He looked like a YO-YO vs. Bowe although he actually rocked bowe early.Looks like fast power.
10-27-2007, 03:03 AM
DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though

It probably made him more money in the short term tho. There wasnt that many big names in the cruisr division when Herbie decided to be a HW.

Thats why a lot of small heavies skipped over the division if there was money to be made Jones would have made a stop for one of the belts and Toney more then likely would have stuck around...

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though

It probably made him more money in the short term tho. There wasnt that many big names in the cruisr division when Herbie decided to be a HW.

Do you Think He can do damage In top 10 Cruisers??
It always seems the Good Cruisers get a $$$ itch and Move up to Heavy where they come crashing down (Sometimes).If he can fight like he talks ...Just save time and give him the belt now ;D. He looked like a YO-YO vs. Bowe although he actually rocked bowe early.Looks like fast power.

I think he could have been a force in the CW division...now he is on the way out and there are some younger guys who would be too much for him at this point in his career
10-27-2007, 03:05 AM
eagle

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though

It probably made him more money in the short term tho. There wasnt that many big names in the cruisr division when Herbie decided to be a HW.

Do you Think He can do damage In top 10 Cruisers??
It always seems the Good Cruisers get a $$$ itch and Move up to Heavy where they come crashing down (Sometimes).If he can fight like he talks ...Just save time and give him the belt now ;D. He looked like a YO-YO vs. Bowe although he actually rocked bowe early.Looks like fast power.

I'll reserve judgement til he fights a top guy at cruiser. No doubt he has(had) the tools to be a great Cruiser but can he still use them. He never really beat any names in the HW division and got beaten by some no names.
10-27-2007, 03:16 AM
Wright

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Don't understand why people think he could be a force at cruiserweight or anywhere else. I know it's a weak division, but it isn't that weak. Biggest problems - mental strength, and lack of accuracy against quality.
10-27-2007, 03:27 AM
Althugz

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Agreed Daxx, better suited as a cruiser.

And wow, the guy has an attitude to match his punching power

Yeah I know a boxer who personally knew him and he reckons he's one of the biggest pricks going. Tight bastard who felt he didn't have to pay for things because he was 'Herbie Hide'...Herbie fucking Who?
10-27-2007, 03:31 AM
Althugz

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Herbie had no business in the HW division....That was his biggest career mistake...Just my Opp though

It probably made him more money in the short term tho. There wasnt that many big names in the cruisr division when Herbie decided to be a HW.

Do you Think He can do damage In top 10 Cruisers??
It always seems the Good Cruisers get a $$$ itch and Move up to Heavy where they come crashing down (Sometimes).If he can fight like he talks ...Just save time and give him the belt now ;D. He looked like a YO-YO vs. Bowe although he actually rocked bowe early.Looks like fast power.

Yeah and Bowe was just following him around not throwing any punches whilst Herbie was on his bike with a 'shitting myself' look on his face lol..then as soon as Riddick opened up with the odd punch Herbie was on the floor. Was very strange the punches didn't even look that clean but Herbie ended up on the floor after nearly every punch ???
10-27-2007, 03:46 AM
Spicoli

Re: Herbie Hide ??

Thanks for Input peeps.CC's Inbound (I guess I should Learn to string these Post's huh?)No patients though.
To much salt water on the brain :P

Now that I think about it Thugz,Hide did look mortified .The joke from Merchant and Lampley was Hes looking for a place to "Hide".......How witty ::**
10-27-2007, 04:06 AM
taansend

Re: Herbie Hide ??

I watched Hide bounce around in the ABA final after just 9 amateur fights.

He always had amazing talent but unfortunately lived in Norwich and not London (although that could have been a lot worse).

Here's the funny thing. Even though Hide is only 36 - young in todays game - he hasn't beaten anyone who'd won TWO FIGHTS IN A ROW since 1998. Thats NINE years!!!

I loved Hide and watched him as an amateur and pro but he needs to win against a LIVE body before we talk about him.

But I'd love him to KO Macca ;D
10-27-2007, 09:38 AM
Dark Lord Al

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Enzo should fight Hide , first guy to land wins by KO
Would be fun to watch
10-27-2007, 10:11 AM
SEANIE

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If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.
10-27-2007, 10:46 AM
Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .
10-27-2007, 11:27 AM
SEANIE

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .

im 37 years old. hide had far more natural talent and power than holyfield. at cruiserweight he would have overwhelmed holyfield with skill and power.
10-27-2007, 01:17 PM
sanj16

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .

im 37 years old. hide had far more natural talent and power than holyfield. at cruiserweight he would have overwhelmed holyfield with skill and power.

I saw Holyfield fighting as a CW and always thought he was better built to be a body builder than a fighter. Never thought he would make it as a top fighter. Fair dues, he proved me wrong in a big way. But Hide has talent, and him vs Holyfield at CW would have been an excellent fight
10-27-2007, 02:07 PM
Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .

im 37 years old. hide had far more natural talent and power than holyfield. at cruiserweight he would have overwhelmed holyfield with skill and power.

So you are 37 - but u didnt deny the drug thing lol
also Hide didnt fight at world level at cruiser so that statement is total crap , as you are guessing.
10-27-2007, 03:52 PM
SEANIE

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .

im 37 years old. hide had far more natural talent and power than holyfield. at cruiserweight he would have overwhelmed holyfield with skill and power.

So you are 37 - but u didnt deny the drug thing lol
also Hide didnt fight at world level at cruiser so that statement is total crap , as you are guessing.

holyfield fought has beens and never was beens at cruiserweight. hide would wallop him from pillor to post.
10-27-2007, 04:43 PM
Fenster

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by Saddo

heres what he had to say to us last year...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3953-excl...rbie-hide.html

so the attitude was still there ;D ;D ;D

That interview is absolutely mustard.

Hilarious ;D
10-27-2007, 07:30 PM
DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .

im 37 years old. hide had far more natural talent and power than holyfield. at cruiserweight he would have overwhelmed holyfield with skill and power.

So you are 37 - but u didnt deny the drug thing lol
also Hide didnt fight at world level at cruiser so that statement is total crap , as you are guessing.

To say Hide would have dominated Holyfield at CW makes me think he is more like 73 and confused with some sort of on setting Alzheimer's......
10-28-2007, 12:58 AM
eagle

Re: Herbie Hide ??

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

Well how come if Herbie was so much better how come Holy is an all time great heavy and hide never beat a decent HW?
10-28-2007, 01:59 AM
Spicoli

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

If hide had been at cruiserweight at the sametime as holyfield, hide would have destroyed him.

You are not only on some kind of mind bending drugs , but you are also probably a kid .

im 37 years old. hide had far more natural talent and power than holyfield. at cruiserweight he would have overwhelmed holyfield with skill and power.

So you are 37 - but u didnt deny the drug thing lol
also Hide didnt fight at world level at cruiser so that statement is total crap , as you are guessing.

holyfield fought has beens and never was beens at cruiserweight. hide would wallop him from pillor to post.

Thanks for some brilliant insight.What the F!!! is a "Never was Been"??Holyfield has never shy ed away from a man who hits hard or has good mobility....but he sure as sh!! would invite a chin made of rice paper.
Cruisers did not come around until 80' and regardless of its tumultuous inception and championships that went back and forth,Holyfield did what you could only hope for, clean out a somewhat weak division (Deleon was no bum at Cruiser)...defeat all the champs and unify division and wave bye-bye.All within 18 bouts.

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