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2 of boxing's renowned experts pick kessler over joe
Dan Rafael, espn.com: “…we're picking the Great Dane [Kessler] to pull off the mild upset.”
William Dettloff, The Ring: “…I like Kessler to win. He’s a straight, sharp puncher…”
This is so much like the Lacy fight all over again. I hope at least when joe wins he gets his due and doesn't get shafted by the public labelling Mikkel an overated and overhyped fighter.
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Re: 2 of boxing's renowned experts pick kessler over joe
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Originally Posted by chamiley
This is so much like the Lacy fight all over again. I hope at least when joe wins he gets his due and doesn't get shafted by the public labelling Mikkel an overated and overhyped fighter.
prob not mate... look at how people rated Lacy before and after the win.
Joe never gets the credit deserved ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by chamiley
This is so much like the Lacy fight all over again. I hope at least when joe wins he gets his due and doesn't get shafted by the public labelling Mikkel an overated and overhyped fighter.
prob not mate... look at how people rated Lacy before and after the win.
Joe never gets the credit deserved ;)
Joe gave a masterclass against Lacy (there's your credit)
But can you honestly say Lacy has looked good since then? What had he done before that?
Kessler has a much better resume IMO
Last 5 fights
1. Librado Andrade 24-0-0 (UD) Kessler defending WBA and WBC - Andrade is undefeated and in the ring's top 10 for 168
2. Marcus Beyer 34-2-1 (3rd round KO) Kessler defending WBA, Beyer defending WBC - Beyer holds another strap also in the ring's top 10 for 168
3. Eric Lucas 38-6-3 (10th round TKO) Kessler defending WBA- Lucas was his mandatory
4. Anthony Mundine 23-2-0 (UD) Kessler defending WBA - Mundine #3 at 168 behind Kessler and Calzaghe in The Ring rankings
5. Manny Siaca 18-4-0 (8th round TKO) Siaca defending WBA - Siaca in Thr Ring's top 10
Total 137-14-1
I still think that Calzaghe will take a decision here, but Kessler is worth much more than Lacy on the resume IMO.
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Well I really think the only reason Dan Rafael is picking Kess is cause Kess was guest commentating one night on friday nights with him in the studio or some crap like that. Sounds stupid I know but I really think that's the reason.
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I personally thought Lacy looked pretty crap against Reid and Pemberton and couldn't imagine the Calzaghe who fought Eubank having a problem with him. I thought Calzaghe at his best would dominate him and anihilate him
I barely give Joe a chance against Kessler. It won't even be very close
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Re: 2 of boxing's renowned experts pick kessler over joe
Interesting to see how many 'renowned experts' picked Lacy to beat Calzaghe as well.
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The problem is that these "renowned experts" are mainly renowned for their hopelessly wrong predictions of forthcoming fights....
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As i read the title and then the "experts," in question i just feel the situation necessitate me to mention that Dan Rafael was also the "expert," accredited with the proposal for Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by chamiley
This is so much like the Lacy fight all over again. I hope at least when joe wins he gets his due and doesn't get shafted by the public labelling Mikkel an overated and overhyped fighter.
prob not mate... look at how people rated Lacy before and after the win.
Joe never gets the credit deserved ;)
Joe gave a masterclass against Lacy (there's your credit)
But can you honestly say Lacy has looked good since then? What had he done before that?
Kessler has a much better resume IMO
Last 5 fights
1. Librado Andrade 24-0-0 (UD) Kessler defending WBA and WBC - Andrade is undefeated and in the ring's top 10 for 168
2. Marcus Beyer 34-2-1 (3rd round KO) Kessler defending WBA, Beyer defending WBC - Beyer holds another strap also in the ring's top 10 for 168
3. Eric Lucas 38-6-3 (10th round TKO) Kessler defending WBA- Lucas was his mandatory
4. Anthony Mundine 23-2-0 (UD) Kessler defending WBA - Mundine #3 at 168 behind Kessler and Calzaghe in The Ring rankings
5. Manny Siaca 18-4-0 (8th round TKO) Siaca defending WBA - Siaca in Thr Ring's top 10
Total 137-14-1
I still think that Calzaghe will take a decision here, but Kessler is worth much more than Lacy on the resume IMO.
Ring rankings when Kessler fought them
12-11-04......Manny Siaca..............#2
08-06-05......Anthony Mundine.......#3
14-01-06......Eric Lucas..................unranked
14-10-06......Markus Beyer............#2
24-03-07......Librado Andrade........#5
03-11-07......Joe Calzaghe.............#Champion
And Eric Lucas was not Kessler`s mandatory,but alot better than Womanfredo
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
As i read the title and then the "experts," in question i just feel the situation necessitate me to mention that Dan Rafael was also the "expert," accredited with the proposal for Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya.
I said this before, I'll say it again. The only thing Rafael is expert at when it comes to fighting is late night 12 rounders fighting off indigestion from philly steak sandwiches. That and his daily fight to tie his shoes and zip up his pants. That fat p.o.s. couldn't fight his way up the steps to get in the ring. And if Kessler wins I would call it more than a "mild upset".
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
As i read the title and then the "experts," in question i just feel the situation necessitate me to mention that Dan Rafael was also the "expert," accredited with the proposal for Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya.
I said this before, I'll say it again. The only thing Rafael is expert at when it comes to fighting is late night 12 rounders fighting off indigestion from philly steak sandwiches. That and his daily fight to tie his shoes and zip up his pants. That fat p.o.s. couldn't fight his way up the steps to get in the ring. And if Kessler wins I would call it more than a "mild upset".
How did he come into prominence, I really have no clue how guys like this become "experts"???
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Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
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Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
What happened to i love Calzaghe and Kessler Wacko? ;D
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
What happened to i love Calzaghe and Kessler Wacko? ;D
Not a thing babe.
I do love 'em both...but Joe's gonna win, experts or not.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
What happened to i love Calzaghe and Kessler Wacko? ;D
Not a thing babe.
I do love 'em both...but Joe's gonna win, experts or not.
The only reason if asked is cos i cant remember u setting yourself up for a fall like this before. U are usually far more neutral. Good luck to u.
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Calzaghe will absolutely batter Kessler. He is too quick, too skilled and too experienced. Then again, Kessler will absolutely batter Calzaghe. He is too strong, too fit and too fresh. Sorry - but sitting on the fence seems to be the safest option with this fight. Both seem to be excellent fighters, both have conducted themselves properly by and large, and both will be involved in a fantastic fight. Can't sit on the fence anymore - just broken it. Calzaghe by tight decision.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
What happened to i love Calzaghe and Kessler Wacko? ;D
Not a thing babe.
I do love 'em both...but Joe's gonna win, experts or not.
The only reason if asked is cos i cant remember u setting yourself up for a fall like this before. U are usually far more neutral. Good luck to u.
I'm always neutral...even with my favorites...but I see Joe bringing waaaaaaay too much speed & far too many angles for Kessler to cope with.
Someone said that Kess is faster than Joe...no I like Kess & all that...but Kess being faster?
That my friends is a statement smothered & slathered in a freshly excreted pile of bullshit!
Oh...& good luck to you too...I guess. Luck is something that I've felt no need for...it's just boxing...unless you're bettin money or so wrapped in fandom that you can't get by...it's all good to me. ;D
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
What happened to i love Calzaghe and Kessler Wacko? ;D
Not a thing babe.
I do love 'em both...but Joe's gonna win, experts or not.
The only reason if asked is cos i cant remember u setting yourself up for a fall like this before. U are usually far more neutral. Good luck to u.
I'm always neutral...even with my favorites...but I see Joe bringing waaaaaaay too much speed & far too many angles for Kessler to cope with.
Someone said that Kess is faster than Joe...no I like Kess & all that...but Kess being faster?
That my friends is a statement smothered & slathered in a freshly excreted pile of bullshit!
Oh...& good luck to you too...I guess. Luck is something that I've felt no need for...it's just boxing...unless you're bettin money or so wrapped in fandom that you can't get by...it's all good to me. ;D
Good point on the 'Its just boxing' .
As far as the bullshit its coming from both sides. I heard a Joe fan say that Kessler is similiar to Manfredo. :o
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
As i read the title and then the "experts," in question i just feel the situation necessitate me to mention that Dan Rafael was also the "expert," accredited with the proposal for Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya.
I said this before, I'll say it again. The only thing Rafael is expert at when it comes to fighting is late night 12 rounders fighting off indigestion from philly steak sandwiches. That and his daily fight to tie his shoes and zip up his pants. That fat p.o.s. couldn't fight his way up the steps to get in the ring. And if Kessler wins I would call it more than a "mild upset".
HAHA damn good roast CC for that.
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Originally Posted by No Contest
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
As i read the title and then the "experts," in question i just feel the situation necessitate me to mention that Dan Rafael was also the "expert," accredited with the proposal for Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya.
I said this before, I'll say it again. The only thing Rafael is expert at when it comes to fighting is late night 12 rounders fighting off indigestion from philly steak sandwiches. That and his daily fight to tie his shoes and zip up his pants. That fat p.o.s. couldn't fight his way up the steps to get in the ring. And if Kessler wins I would call it more than a "mild upset".
HAHA damn good roast CC for that.
Yeah, that Rafael grates on my nerves. Thanks, CC back :)
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Teddy Atlas picked him too if I remember, I am picking Kessler as well. So 4 experts are picking him :lickish:
...AND THOSE 4 WILL BE WRONG!!!! ;D
What happened to i love Calzaghe and Kessler Wacko? ;D
Not a thing babe.
I do love 'em both...but Joe's gonna win, experts or not.
The only reason if asked is cos i cant remember u setting yourself up for a fall like this before. U are usually far more neutral. Good luck to u.
I'm always neutral...even with my favorites...but I see Joe bringing waaaaaaay too much speed & far too many angles for Kessler to cope with.
Someone said that Kess is faster than Joe...no I like Kess & all that...but Kess being faster?
That my friends is a statement smothered & slathered in a freshly excreted pile of bullshit!
Oh...& good luck to you too...I guess. Luck is something that I've felt no need for...it's just boxing...unless you're bettin money or so wrapped in fandom that you can't get by...it's all good to me. ;D
Good point on the 'Its just boxing' .
As far as the bullshit its coming from both sides.
I heard a Joe fan say that Kessler is similiar to Manfredo. :o
Now that is bullshit!
They should be stripped down naked, tied to a tree, covered in honey, & left for the bears to eat!!! :-X
CuteMick would love that. :yay2: Heh heh heh.
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Calzaghe by at least 4 rounds
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This is going to be a great a fightno matter what. A fight fans (mostly Kessler fans) wanted. I too wanted to see this fight. I am going with Old Joe to win by split decision. I honestly think this is a pick'em fight but both fighters are in for a fight of their life. If Kessler is all that, then he should win. We shall see how right the experts are as anything can happen in this sport. I hope the judging and the ref are fair. (That is all I ask I guess) This is boxing so I just might be asking for a little too much ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by chamiley
This is so much like the Lacy fight all over again. I hope at least when joe wins he gets his due and doesn't get shafted by the public labelling Mikkel an overated and overhyped fighter.
prob not mate... look at how people rated Lacy before and after the win.
Joe never gets the credit deserved ;)
For whatever reason, people think Lacy's ready for the garbage heap. I say after Calzaghe retires it'll be anybody's division to take, INCLUDING Lacy.
