Your thoughts/opinions are greatly appreciated.

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


Thanks.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


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I think those are the only ones I've heard of. I'm not a long time fan of boxing though, I've only gotten really into it in the past few years...

Good post. It's difficult at times to understand why some fighters are revered and others almost forgotten. Never saw Foster, but from what I have read and been told he was brilliant. Did see Pedroza against McGuigan, and he looked great for the first part of the fight, but he was an old man in boxing terms and McGuigan's energy and all-action style saw him through. Think Azumah Nelson deserves to be talked about more.

Check out some Bob Foster vids on youtube. One of my top 5 favorites. Failed horribly at his heavyweight fights, but at light heavy he was a MONSTER. Check out his dismemberment of Rondon and Quarry. Felony battery without going to jail.

I remember that Miguel Angel Gonzales had great skills but seemed to lack something against top guys. Had a good record but was destroyed by KT and to a lesser extent ODLH.
Fighting Harada is famous here in australia because of his bouts with Lionel Rose and Johnny Famechon.

No one ever talks about Michael Carbajal eithr. Great little fighter.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


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LOOK at Mick...Good sh!!...Im having flash backs of a missing ICE and his list LOL.This could take all night so I'll Brain storm and forget digging up past issues,Notes and pulling tapes off shelf. CC to CutMeMick,Big time :appl:

Yanqui Diaz Fought in a golden era of light heavys.Fought the best and Though never a champ Is debatabley in the B.H.O.F upset future champ Mike rossman in scorther.Barley lost to Victor Galindez in 77' and yelled Robbery.Rematch was not as good and pretty clear for Galindez.Had two brutal wars with Undeniable warrior Matthew saad Muhammed.Lopez Entered his 4th titlke attempt in 80'and it was savage.LOpez was aggressor and Took early rounds pretty convincingley(to me at least) In thhe 8th He Cornered Muhammed and battered him with about 15 or 20 bombs and the ref.let it go as Saad ended the round throwing back.As was His nature the punches seemed to empower Saad he he stormed back in the 13th and 14,Knocking Lopez down FOUR times,Lopez was done no doubt. Lost to 14-0 Michael Spinks via tko 7 .LOst to Deleon when he was pretty used up in 83' KO 4.Also lost to Unknown "hidden" talent James scott in a fight that was held in Rahway state prison where Scott was serving time for Robbery and Murder..Crazy sh!! Yehh,he lost most of the big ones but was all balls


Carlos Deleon IMO gets a bad rap as most focus on his Ill advised Heavy weight adventures and staying around too long.won 1st of 4 Cruiser belts on undercard of "NO-MAS" fight w.15 Marvin Camel,lost it twice and regained it twice.Lost Via tko to Holyfield and yet again regained it a year later in 89'
"Sugar" fought on and In 1990 met 17-0 Massimi$#@!(sorry cant spell it) Duran for WBC Cruiser and was DQ'd for Knocking Duran down AT the Bell/After to end 11th round.Became trial horse at Heavy.DeLeon was NO BUM at cruiser!
Need Coffee........ ;D

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No one ever talks about Michael Carbajal eithr. Great little fighter.

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Legion my man,not to brash but Ive blabbed up some boards on My # 3 Favorite Fighter all time Michael Carbajal........He is the MAN

Good points Mick and great list of Great fighters....and you are right many of them do go unnoticed but have in every way deserved the attention of all those we speak about on the norm...

Johnny Tapia is actually one of my all time favorites, Mi Vida Loca is a name that could not be more befitting of a fighter if you sat and tried for the Million Dollar prize,

One of the greatest Super Flyweights to ever grace the sport I remember his fight with Danny Romero when he added the IBF SFW title to his WBO version, It looked as though Johnny was on his way to being one of the all time greatest little men to ever put on a pair of gloves, Sadly enough it was no long after Johnny and his drug use became a problem....No matter how bad it got though through the years you never looked at Tapia like one of those loser types who you wished went away...Not even when he tried to kill himself or his wife Theresa,,,you always felt for him in a personal way...almost like a lost family member you wish you could help but they were too far gone. When he spoke you could tell by the look in his eyes there is not a truly bad bone in his body he was just so consumed by the drugs

I had seen him and Theresa in an interview once where it was brought up that she told him she would leave him and could not do this anymore, The hurt in his eyes and the way they teared up actually brought tears to my eyes..I swear after that interview if I could have done something for the man I would have found a way to get in touch with him and offered him any help I could have possibly given, Thats how much you felt for Tapia during those years

In the ring Tapia never left you wanting for more, he has been out gunned and out classed but even when he was out gunned or out classed Johnny fought like a true champion never making and excuse for his loss other then the other guy got me that night what am I going to do..while he flashed that school boy smile....

I remember after his losses to Ayala I truly though Tapia was done with then he comes back to KO Soto a few fights later almost as if he reinvented himself

He fights now for money sad to say...thankfully it is not often but when he was KO'd back in 05 by some kid I never even heard of and unless I looked him up on boxrec could not tell you his name now...It actually hurt...It reminded me of how my Father felt after watching Ali lose to Spinks and have to endure the embarrassment of the Berbick loss.....Reminds you exactly how much you get behind your favorites and what they mean to you....

Tapia is an all time great in my book....A lot of great fight memories from his career.....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


Thanks.

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Marlon Starling This is a fighter I really am developing a like for the more I watch and read In hindsight.He has a histoical bearing that I just heard Him talk about on a tape from when he was of ESPN as an in studio guest.He had a Crazy asz fight with Tomas Molinares in 88' in which he was dominating through 5 rnds.Right at the end of the 6th round without a doubt after the bell,He dropped his guard somewhat and Molinares was following through with a Hook?CRASH AND down Starling fell...In a Heap..it was brutal all stiff like he was shot.
Molinaras was new "champ" in the ugliest of ways (later it was reversed to a No Desicion).Starling had NO IDEA what happened,He argued with Larry Merchant "I was never down,He did not hit me",Poor Merchant told him they could have counted to 100 Lol.He later said He remembered coming out of the locker room into the ring and woke up in the Hospital.Now thats OOUUTT!!!
Right after that the commission in New Jersey Implemented the "banging on the ring apron" 10 seconds before the bell so fighters had an idea of closing rounds.
Regained title WBC by Knocking out Lloyd Honeyghan and his KO of Mark "The paul williams of the 80's" Breland was spectacular to win 1st title.

Vinny Pazienza was a little bulldog and exciting for fans. Kind of an a## hole, but a good fighter.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


Thanks.

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Marlon Starling This is a fighter I really am developing a like for the more I watch and read In hindsight.He has a histoical bearing that I just heard Him talk about on a tape from when he was of ESPN as an in studio guest.He had a Crazy asz fight with Tomas Molinares in 88' in which he was dominating through 5 rnds.Right at the end of the 6th round without a doubt after the bell,He dropped his guard somewhat and Molinares was following through with a Hook?CRASH AND down Starling fell...In a Heap..it was brutal all stiff like he was shot.
Molinaras was new "champ" in the ugliest of ways (later it was reversed to a No Desicion).Starling had NO IDEA what happened,He argued with Larry Merchant "I was never down,He did not hit me",Poor Merchant told him they could have counted to 100 Lol.He later said He remembered coming out of the locker room into the ring and woke up in the Hospital.Now thats OOUUTT!!!
Right after that the commission in New Jersey Implemented the "banging on the ring apron" 10 seconds before the bell so fighters had an idea of closing rounds.
Regained title WBC by Knocking out Lloyd Honeyghan and his KO of Mark "The paul williams of the 80's" Breland was spectacular to win 1st title.

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I remember that fight...Marlon was getting mad telling Merchant "How can you say he is better then me or will take my title we haven't even fought yet?" Poor guy had no clue...and F'IN Merchant could not take the hint that maybe we should not push the interview right now?...but we all know how that goes

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


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Some fighters I would add your list are

Wilfredo Vazquez
Tracy Harris Patterson
Orlando Canizales
Welcome Ncita
Alejandro Gonzalez
Milton McCrory
Simon Brown
Paul Banke

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Good points Mick and great list of Great fighters....and you are right many of them do go unnoticed but have in every way deserved the attention of all those we speak about on the norm...

Johnny Tapia is actually one of my all time favorites, Mi Vida Loca is a name that could not be more befitting of a fighter if you sat and tried for the Million Dollar prize,

One of the greatest Super Flyweights to ever grace the sport I remember his fight with Danny Romero when he added the IBF SFW title to his WBO version, It looked as though Johnny was on his way to being one of the all time greatest little men to ever put on a pair of gloves, Sadly enough it was no long after Johnny and his drug use became a problem....No matter how bad it got though through the years you never looked at Tapia like one of those loser types who you wished went away...Not even when he tried to kill himself or his wife Theresa,,,you always felt for him in a personal way...almost like a lost family member you wish you could help but they were too far gone. When he spoke you could tell by the look in his eyes there is not a truly bad bone in his body he was just so consumed by the drugs

I had seen him and Theresa in an interview once where it was brought up that she told him she would leave him and could not do this anymore, The hurt in his eyes and the way they teared up actually brought tears to my eyes..I swear after that interview if I could have done something for the man I would have found a way to get in touch with him and offered him any help I could have possibly given, Thats how much you felt for Tapia during those years

In the ring Tapia never left you wanting for more, he has been out gunned and out classed but even when he was out gunned or out classed Johnny fought like a true champion never making and excuse for his loss other then the other guy got me that night what am I going to do..while he flashed that school boy smile....

I remember after his losses to Ayala I truly though Tapia was done with then he comes back to KO Soto a few fights later almost as if he reinvented himself

He fights now for money sad to say...thankfully it is not often but when he was KO'd back in 05 by some kid I never even heard of and unless I looked him up on boxrec could not tell you his name now...It actually hurt...It reminded me of how my Father felt after watching Ali lose to Spinks and have to endure the embarrassment of the Berbick loss.....Reminds you exactly how much you get behind your favorites and what they mean to you....

Tapia is an all time great in my book....A lot of great fight memories from his career.....

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Good stuff Daxx.Tapia is one that could get over shadowed in great ring career because of his "Mi Vida Loca" Indeed.His Ko Loss in last fight was tuff to see,went out with body shot and could not get up.True class man...Remember he picked up The guy in respect and raised his hand.
Every one spoke of how Romero vs.Tapia would be all out war and Romero was sooo powerful.Tapia went in there and was ALL buisness.won it walking away.On a lighter note I loved His Socks LOL.CC to ya .

Damn! :(

OK.... LG added JJLeija.
RottenApple added the Ruelas Bros. and who else???


How about Mike Weaver, Miguel Canto, Ezzard Charles, Buster Douglas, Carmen Basilio, Gilberto Roman, Kid Gavilan, Juan LaPorte, Vicente Saldivar.

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Marlon Starling This is a fighter I really am developing a like for the more I watch and read In hindsight.He has a histoical bearing that I just heard Him talk about on a tape from when he was of ESPN as an in studio guest.He had a Crazy asz fight with Tomas Molinares in 88' in which he was dominating through 5 rnds.Right at the end of the 6th round without a doubt after the bell,He dropped his guard somewhat and Molinares was following through with a Hook?CRASH AND down Starling fell...In a Heap..it was brutal all stiff like he was shot.
Molinaras was new "champ" in the ugliest of ways (later it was reversed to a No Desicion).Starling had NO IDEA what happened,He argued with Larry Merchant "I was never down,He did not hit me",Poor Merchant told him they could have counted to 100 Lol.He later said He remembered coming out of the locker room into the ring and woke up in the Hospital.Now thats OOUUTT!!!
Right after that the commission in New Jersey Implemented the "banging on the ring apron" 10 seconds before the bell so fighters had an idea of closing rounds.
Regained title WBC by Knocking out Lloyd Honeyghan and his KO of Mark "The paul williams of the 80's" Breland was spectacular to win 1st title.

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That was crazy.... Molinares and team celebrated like crazy in the ring while there was still some confusion as to what had just happened.
The way Marlon layed there was crazy I mean he didn't move for minutes...

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was thinking the other night of how many fighters go unnoticed and or are not talked about. I started thinking about this the other night when I watched several fights of fighters who I felt deserved to be talked about and or mentioned and we as fans rarely or never mention such fighters.
I'm gonna list some names and if you have ANYTHING (Tho I hope it's positive things as this thread to try and glorify fighters who we might not get to praise on a regular basis) to say about them or a fight that you saw or something you read or and would like to share it I would really appreciate it. I just want to know what other posters here think about certain fighters. Since we we almost always talk about Ali, Tyson, ODLH, Lewis etc. etc. etc.

So heres some names and if you want to comment on just 1 or 3 or all of them then do as you please. Theirs no right or wrong answer here this is just for us to mention fighters who would on the norm not get a mention in our everyday discussions.

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres


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Can i add to the list i loved to watch Khoasai Galaxy he was super fly and built like a welter weight , had massive power and was a merciless walk in slugger, he made 20 defences of his WBA title . lost 1 fighton points before he won the title but reversed it with a ko.
Also a guy who i loved to watch was James Buddy McGirt this guy was wonderful to watch prior to his arm injury.
Even after he could no longer throw the left hook he still pushed great SWEETPEA close.
Dick Tiger was a top fighter also and he was subjected to one of the most classic 1 punch KO'S , by Bob Foster.
We could go on and on as this is a good subject but my 2 fav forgoten fighters are Khoasai Galaxy and Buddy McGirt.

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Can i add to the list i loved to watch Khoasai Galaxy he was super fly and built like a welter weight , had massive power and was a merciless walk in slugger, he made 20 defences of his WBA title . lost 1 fighton points before he won the title but reversed it with a ko.
Also a guy who i loved to watch was James Buddy McGirt this guy was wonderful to watch prior to his arm injury.
Even after he could no longer throw the left hook he still pushed great SWEETPEA close.
Dick Tiger was a top fighter also and he was subjected to one of the most classic 1 punch KO'S , by Bob Foster.
We could go on and on as this is a good subject but my 2 fav forgoten fighters are Khoasai Galaxy and Buddy McGirt.

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Ofcourse you can Dark....
I've only seen 3 Galaxy fights and from what I saw he was relentless as a fighter.

Another forgotten fighter who i loved was Rocky Lockridge he was all action swinger , he had some great fights with Tony Lopez ,Mayweather etc.
i always wished he had fought Azumah Nelson or JC Chavez at super feather ;D ;D ;D
you tube has his brutal ko or Roger Matweather its awesome :)

Johnny Owen
Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez
Greg Page
Carlos De Leon
Bob Foster
Fritzie Zivic
Freddie Norwood
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Luisito Espinoza
Frankie Liles
Edwin Rosario
Dick Tiger
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Howard Winstone
Marlon Starling
Pipino Cuevas
Juan Coggi
Eusebio Pedroza
Fighting Harada
Stevie Johston
Jiro Watanabe
Johnny Tapia
Tony Lopez
Sugar Ramos
Humberto Gonzalez
Lupe Pintor
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres

That's an AWESOME list Mick and you know me,a student of our game,so te ones highlighted,could you or anyone else give me some more info on them please as I've heard of them but never seen them in action. Thanks!

Great post CMM.

We should have a fighter of the week in which people learn and talk about some of these forgotten hero's.

To be honest, I find it's a waste of time veering away from the P4P list as most people don't know or care.

Coggi's son is now a prospect down in Argentina. Coggi Snr was a sneaky fighter who beat some good names - although he usually lost to the very best. He won the title of off Morris East, one of my favourite boxing stories. Martin Antonio Coggi is now 17-1 although the opposition has been typical "Son of" fare.

So how about that Fighter of the Week? ??? ;D 8)

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Damn! :(

OK.... LG added JJLeija.
RottenApple added the Ruelas Bros. and who else???


How about Mike Weaver, Miguel Canto, Ezzard Charles, Buster Douglas, Carmen Basilio, Gilberto Roman, Kid Gavilan, Juan LaPorte, Vicente Saldivar.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

Marlon Starling This is a fighter I really am developing a like for the more I watch and read In hindsight.He has a histoical bearing that I just heard Him talk about on a tape from when he was of ESPN as an in studio guest.He had a Crazy asz fight with Tomas Molinares in 88' in which he was dominating through 5 rnds.Right at the end of the 6th round without a doubt after the bell,He dropped his guard somewhat and Molinares was following through with a Hook?CRASH AND down Starling fell...In a Heap..it was brutal all stiff like he was shot.
Molinaras was new "champ" in the ugliest of ways (later it was reversed to a No Desicion).Starling had NO IDEA what happened,He argued with Larry Merchant "I was never down,He did not hit me",Poor Merchant told him they could have counted to 100 Lol.He later said He remembered coming out of the locker room into the ring and woke up in the Hospital.Now thats OOUUTT!!!
Right after that the commission in New Jersey Implemented the "banging on the ring apron" 10 seconds before the bell so fighters had an idea of closing rounds.
Regained title WBC by Knocking out Lloyd Honeyghan and his KO of Mark "The paul williams of the 80's" Breland was spectacular to win 1st title.

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That was crazy.... Molinares and team celebrated like crazy in the ring while there was still some confusion as to what had just happened.
The way Marlon layed there was crazy I mean he didn't move for minutes...

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NO S!!!!.I'll double the Damn Mick.This thread got cut in half due to the Transfer >:mad.I added Kennedy Mckinney and Iran Barkley,Frankie Randall and although he never had the chance to see how long He could go..Zack Padillia.
Oh crap..bak to worrk...They need a twelve step program for Saddo's ;D

i used to enjoy watching tapia fights back when i first got into boxing years ago.

just out of interest did anyone read hisbook?

Bob Fosters 1 punch KO over Dick Tiger was 1 of the best 1 punch KO's in LH history.

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

Dick Tiger was one of the greatest fighters ever
Shame about Page's injury,weird how he just fell off the map the way he did

Oh yeah,Id add Joe Bugner to the list

Frankie Randall
Panama Al Brown
Jose Luis Lopez
Lupe Pintor
Dick Tiger
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Juan La Porte
Jose Luis Ramirez
Edwin Rosario
Hector Camacho
Sam Langford
Nino Benvenuti
Emile Griffith
Antonio Cervantes
Nicolino Locche
Ricardo Lopez Doesn't get enough credit or talked about enough imo.
Michael Carbajal
Humberto Gonzalez
Pancho Villa
Johnny Tapia
Khaosai Galaxy
Chalky Wright
Barney Ross
Kid Gavilan
Pipino Cuevas
Stanley Ketchel
Mickey Walker

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this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

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CC for digging deep EL Barto.Man,I remember He came up on ESPN.They were pushing hard for showdown with Michael Carbajal off there olympic Fight.Was always entertaining and hard charger.
His "lose" to Jose L. Zepeda at the forum was a joke call..He fought the last half with basically 1 arm and I thought he still won.Maybe he's back selling vacumms now :(

a worthy mention is Alfred Kotey . Kotey was a good little fighter, when he was fighting at flyweight and bantamweight he was at his best , had very wide shoulders for a little fellow, a good puncher . moving up in weight was not to his advantage.

has anyone ever turned the channel when Ben Tackie was on the card? i know i never did ! :laugh:

thanks

Has anyone mentioned Sumbu Kalambay? Beat Mcallum, BArkley, Graham twice, Robbie Sims and Steve Collins.

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this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

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hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there ;)
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

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this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

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hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there ;)
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

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El Gamo and El Barto are the same guy?

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this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

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hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there ;)
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

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Nice call on Juan Roldon No Contest,Tuff as the came....With respect about Lopez,Check Thread page #1.I raived all over Lopez with almost the same point .......... ;) ,the best era of Lt.Hvys IMO.

Dick Tiger


I read an article once about Dick Tiger avenging a loss. It was called Tiger's Revenge and was written by Claude Baughs.

This is a really good topic, i think Esteben de Jesus was unlucky he was around when Duran was in his prime as a Lightweight in the 70's.
He still gave Duran his first loss and fought him two more times knocking him down twice in their encounters. A great fighter never given the recognition he deserves.

who dat

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Originally Posted by El Barto

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

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hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there ;)
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

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Nice call on Juan Roldon No Contest,Tuff as the came....With respect about Lopez,Check Thread page #1.I raived all over Lopez with almost the same point .......... ;) ,the best era of Lt.Hvys IMO.

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thats bullshit, everyone keeps posting crap minutes before me and stealing my thunder.... ;D

jesus salud was always exciting fought at bantamweight / super bantamweight if i remember correct

Frankie Randell, he won that fight with Chavez in really IMO a one sided beatdown. Chavez looked real desperate late on in that one he was trying all kinds of dirty stuff. Everyone was cheering Chavez on like they were gonna win him the fight at the end, but the judges werent swayed...at least 2 of them.