Just watched Paulie vs Cotto again, and...

I think this is a strong case for Mosley doing very well against Cotto. Paulie didn't have the power to really do anything against Cotto, but he was hitting him a lot, and looked similar to how Mosley fights in some aspects. Add Mosley's speed and power to Paulie's performance, and I think Cotto loses, especially considering Mosley is prone to cuts, and he will be able to take Cotto's punch easier than Paulie.

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I think this is a strong case for Mosley doing very well against Cotto. Paulie didn't have the power to really do anything against Cotto, but he was hitting him a lot, and looked similar to how Mosley fights in some aspects. Add Mosley's speed and power to Paulie's performance, and I think Cotto loses, especially considering Mosley is prone to cuts, and he will be able to take Cotto's punch easier than Paulie.

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I wasn't aware Mosley cut easily

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I think this is a strong case for Mosley doing very well against Cotto. Paulie didn't have the power to really do anything against Cotto, but he was hitting him a lot, and looked similar to how Mosley fights in some aspects. Add Mosley's speed and power to Paulie's performance, and I think Cotto loses, especially considering Mosley is prone to cuts, and he will be able to take Cotto's punch easier than Paulie.

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I agree i even remember Paulie rocking Cotto in 9th round i believe Paulie sure did hit him alot his speed gave Cotto problems but he couldn't dent Cotto difference is Mosley has the speed of Paulie and the power to stop Cotto.

But i disagree with Mosley cutting easily i can only remember him being cut vs Forrest on the forehead when he was headbutted.

Well see, I think Cotto's looked a lot better at 147, his legs didn't look that great against Paulie, looked drained to me.

Seems like Taeth probably meant to say Mosley isn't prone to cuts considering it makes no sense to say "and I think Cotto loses, especially considering Mosley is prone to cuts. "

Guys that was a typo obviously or that sentence wouldn't have made sense. THe contradiction was that Paulie got cut where as I am not sure if Mosley has ever been cut except maybe in the head clash with Forest, but that was much harder than Paulie's head clash with Cotto.

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Well see, I think Cotto's looked a lot better at 147, his legs didn't look that great against Paulie, looked drained to me.

Seems like Taeth probably meant to say Mosley isn't prone to cuts considering it makes no sense to say "and I think Cotto loses, especially considering Mosley is prone to cuts. "

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I don't think Cotto's legs were all that much worse, he hurt his left hand which slowed down his productivity in that fight, but even before that Paulie was throwing back, and taking what Cotto could dish out. Mosley is much stronger than him, and maybe even stronger than Cotto.

Paulie Gave Cotto perhaps the toughest fight of his career...If Paulie had some powewr behind his punches I can Guarentee Cotto would not be undefeated......

That fight made me a big Malinaggi fan....

If a cow had nuts she'd be a bull.

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Shane by k.o.

I am not sure if sugar at this point in his career is faster then paulie.
But i do know he has more power then paulie and that is a fact.
This is way off topic but speaking of Paulie i like to see him face Juan Diaz. I think it be a good clash but Paulie win a UD good boxer and Juan has no power to really make give Paulie any trouble like Cotto did when they fought.

If Juan moved up it would be a great fight, all action from 1st to last round. I really don't know who I'd pick, would have to see Juan at 140 with someone 1st. I don't think I give Paulie enough credit, but he is a good fighter, no power but slick as oil and tough.

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Just messin with Ya Mate CC ;)

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This is way off topic but speaking of Paulie i like to see him face Juan Diaz. I think it be a good clash but Paulie win a UD good boxer and Juan has no power to really make give Paulie any trouble like Cotto did when they fought.

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This is to all your threads, Mosley is has faster hands than Paulie at this point, and is harder to hit because he still has faster reflexes than Paulie, and people are more cautious coming in on him because he has more power which helps his defense.

CC Back Daxx. I liked your article.

Mosley is Faster and stronger than Paulie. and that's THAT!!.

If Paulie and Cotto fight at 147 now Cotto will likely to end that laud mouth with heart.


Mosley vs Cotto is a 50/50 to me every boxer that face Cotto made the mistake of thinking he is onedimensional and that is were they fail.

yeah, lets not mention Cotto struggling with weight for like his last 2 fights at 140.
Lets not mention he started talking about moving up in weight after the Torres fight but still fought there.
I mean I don't need to see the fight over to know he decided to box Paulie, Cotto turned to a boxer and boxed Paulie in the last rounds turning southpaw and all. He knew he was wining and knew Paulie couldn't fade him.

Cotto at 140 is not the same Cotto we see here at 147.
Cottos nutrioning is better, Cottos body is more full here and this weight fits him well for now.

There is no doubt in my mind that SSMs speed will cause Cotto lots of problems especially early on but once Cotto adjusts I think hes gonna take over. I think SSM will have really good moments throughout the fight showing good speed and landing really good shots. But it is also important to see whos landing the harder cleaner punches and whos doing the most damage.

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Mosley vs Cotto is a 50/50 to me every boxer that face Cotto made the mistake of thinking he is onedimensional and that is were they fail.

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PAAAAANAAAAAAA!!!

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Very well said mi hermano, SSM said "I've fought his style before, I've seen it. I don't need a strategy or a plan I'm just gonna go in there and fight him as I go along." "I know how to beat his kind, hes robotical and does standard things I already know"

Right on Shane, you do your thing. Go in there without a plan you'll be OK. :)

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Miguel Cotto has his downside like any boxer but he's tough and he's got more heart than most anyone out there.


Shane has taken shots to the head very well but what about body shots??? What happens when Shane moves into a corner and is stunned by a left hook to the stomach?

We all know Cotto takes too many punches but let me tell you he has the ability to box very well, he did it vs Abdullaev he can punch and move and switch to southpaw and other than the fact he doesn't have the size or style to beat Mosley the way Wright and Forrest did......I still think Cotto is the winner by stoppage

I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

I think you can make a case for both fighters losing here.
Thats why its so interesting.

Shane's speed could be too much for Cotto but Cotto's relentlessnes could be too much for Shane at this stage of his career.

I really can't wait for this.

I think Shane takes it but i wouldn't put money on it.

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I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

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Well i feel that, it was more Paulies movement and footwork that puzzled Cotto. Had Malignaggi stood still long enough he would have been taken out, his footwork kept him in that fight. I feel that fight was a lot like Judah Cotto in that although they desrve credit for staying in there they really never threatened. Many people made out that Malignaggi was unlucky not to win, but for me Cotto dominated.

Ricky Hatton says when he fights at 140 he weighs in before the fight at 150. Id love to know what Miguel weighed after the weigh in just before this fight as he looked incredibly big in comparison to malignaggi.

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I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

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Well i feel that, it was more Paulies movement and footwork that puzzled Cotto. Had Malignaggi stood still long enough he would have been taken out, his footwork kept him in that fight. I feel that fight was a lot like Judah Cotto in that although they desrve credit for staying in there they really never threatened. Many people made out that Malignaggi was unlucky not to win, but for me Cotto dominated.

Ricky Hatton says when he fights at 140 he weighs in before the fight at 150. Id love to know what Miguel weighed after the weigh in just before this fight as he looked incredibly big in comparison to malignaggi.

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I agree Cotto did look alot bigger than Paulie and I agree Cotto pretty muched dominated the fight and landed the harder punches. The only time Paulie really caught Cotto is when Cotto went backwards. I think if Mosley uses his boxing skills and footwork he can cause Cotto alot more problems than Paulie did cus Shane has the power in his punches that Paulie lacked to hurt Cotto.

Who are you backing for the win hitmandonny cus Im sure I read in another thread that you are a Mosley fan????

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I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

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Well i feel that, it was more Paulies movement and footwork that puzzled Cotto. Had Malignaggi stood still long enough he would have been taken out, his footwork kept him in that fight. I feel that fight was a lot like Judah Cotto in that although they desrve credit for staying in there they really never threatened. Many people made out that Malignaggi was unlucky not to win, but for me Cotto dominated.

Ricky Hatton says when he fights at 140 he weighs in before the fight at 150. Id love to know what Miguel weighed after the weigh in just before this fight as he looked incredibly big in comparison to malignaggi.

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I agree Cotto did look alot bigger than Paulie and I agree Cotto pretty muched dominated the fight and landed the harder punches. The only time Paulie really caught Cotto is when Cotto went backwards. I think if Mosley uses his boxing skills and footwork he can cause Cotto alot more problems than Paulie did cus Shane has the power in his punches that Paulie lacked to hurt Cotto.

Who are you backing for the win hitmandonny cus Im sure I read in another thread that you are a Mosley fan????

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Agreed.
Well you may have read in another thread that im a mosely fan and in another that i'm a cotto fan ::**
I really admire both guys (wjich is funny as stylistically they'ree opposites.) and i find it so hard to favour one guy.
As i said elsewhere a win for shane would be great as it would cement his legacy, but a win for Cotto would be good for boxing beginning an entirely new legacy for the sport.
So to be honest i won't no who i support until the bell rings and i begin to shout for somebody!!!!

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I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

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Well i feel that, it was more Paulies movement and footwork that puzzled Cotto. Had Malignaggi stood still long enough he would have been taken out, his footwork kept him in that fight. I feel that fight was a lot like Judah Cotto in that although they desrve credit for staying in there they really never threatened. Many people made out that Malignaggi was unlucky not to win, but for me Cotto dominated.

Ricky Hatton says when he fights at 140 he weighs in before the fight at 150. Id love to know what Miguel weighed after the weigh in just before this fight as he looked incredibly big in comparison to malignaggi.

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I agree Cotto did look alot bigger than Paulie and I agree Cotto pretty muched dominated the fight and landed the harder punches. The only time Paulie really caught Cotto is when Cotto went backwards. I think if Mosley uses his boxing skills and footwork he can cause Cotto alot more problems than Paulie did cus Shane has the power in his punches that Paulie lacked to hurt Cotto.

Who are you backing for the win hitmandonny cus Im sure I read in another thread that you are a Mosley fan????

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Agreed.
Well you may have read in another thread that im a mosely fan and in another that i'm a cotto fan ::**
I really admire both guys (wjich is funny as stylistically they'ree opposites.) and i find it so hard to favour one guy.
As i said elsewhere a win for shane would be great as it would cement his legacy, but a win for Cotto would be good for boxing beginning an entirely new legacy for the sport.
So to be honest i won't no who i support until the bell rings and i begin to shout for somebody!!!!

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If Cotto had been fighting anybody else (apart from Hatton) I would be backing him but I have been a massive Mosley fan for ages and I dont think he has many big fights left and if he loses this I fear he will retire. I want him to get his big fight with Mayweather!!

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I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

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Well i feel that, it was more Paulies movement and footwork that puzzled Cotto. Had Malignaggi stood still long enough he would have been taken out, his footwork kept him in that fight. I feel that fight was a lot like Judah Cotto in that although they desrve credit for staying in there they really never threatened. Many people made out that Malignaggi was unlucky not to win, but for me Cotto dominated.

Ricky Hatton says when he fights at 140 he weighs in before the fight at 150. Id love to know what Miguel weighed after the weigh in just before this fight as he looked incredibly big in comparison to malignaggi.

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I agree Cotto did look alot bigger than Paulie and I agree Cotto pretty muched dominated the fight and landed the harder punches. The only time Paulie really caught Cotto is when Cotto went backwards. I think if Mosley uses his boxing skills and footwork he can cause Cotto alot more problems than Paulie did cus Shane has the power in his punches that Paulie lacked to hurt Cotto.

Who are you backing for the win hitmandonny cus Im sure I read in another thread that you are a Mosley fan????

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Agreed.
Well you may have read in another thread that im a mosely fan and in another that i'm a cotto fan ::**
I really admire both guys (wjich is funny as stylistically they'ree opposites.) and i find it so hard to favour one guy.
As i said elsewhere a win for shane would be great as it would cement his legacy, but a win for Cotto would be good for boxing beginning an entirely new legacy for the sport.
So to be honest i won't no who i support until the bell rings and i begin to shout for somebody!!!!

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If Cotto had been fighting anybody else (apart from Hatton) I would be backing him but I have been a massive Mosley fan for ages and I dont think he has many big fights left and if he loses this I fear he will retire. I want him to get his big fight with Mayweather!!

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I understand that completely...Im really torn, but either way il be glad, it would be even better if it were a fighter similar to Calzagh/kessler where both guys come out with Pride.

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I just watched the Paulie/Cotto fight as well today and Cotto did struggle with Paulies hand speed at times and watching this fight again only makes me even more confident in Sugar Shane getting the late KO (but it aint gunna be easy). Cotto bust up Paulie with his left hooks and his bodyshots but Paulie showed tonnes of heart. Everyone is saying that Cottos bodyshots are gonna be too much for Mosley but Mosley took some big bodyshots off ODLH in both there fights and still went on to win, surley Oscar hits harder than Cotto??

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Well i feel that, it was more Paulies movement and footwork that puzzled Cotto. Had Malignaggi stood still long enough he would have been taken out, his footwork kept him in that fight. I feel that fight was a lot like Judah Cotto in that although they desrve credit for staying in there they really never threatened. Many people made out that Malignaggi was unlucky not to win, but for me Cotto dominated.

Ricky Hatton says when he fights at 140 he weighs in before the fight at 150. Id love to know what Miguel weighed after the weigh in just before this fight as he looked incredibly big in comparison to malignaggi.

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I agree Cotto did look alot bigger than Paulie and I agree Cotto pretty muched dominated the fight and landed the harder punches. The only time Paulie really caught Cotto is when Cotto went backwards. I think if Mosley uses his boxing skills and footwork he can cause Cotto alot more problems than Paulie did cus Shane has the power in his punches that Paulie lacked to hurt Cotto.

Who are you backing for the win hitmandonny cus Im sure I read in another thread that you are a Mosley fan????

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Agreed.
Well you may have read in another thread that im a mosely fan and in another that i'm a cotto fan ::**
I really admire both guys (wjich is funny as stylistically they'ree opposites.) and i find it so hard to favour one guy.
As i said elsewhere a win for shane would be great as it would cement his legacy, but a win for Cotto would be good for boxing beginning an entirely new legacy for the sport.
So to be honest i won't no who i support until the bell rings and i begin to shout for somebody!!!!

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If Cotto had been fighting anybody else (apart from Hatton) I would be backing him but I have been a massive Mosley fan for ages and I dont think he has many big fights left and if he loses this I fear he will retire. I want him to get his big fight with Mayweather!!

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I understand that completely...Im really torn, but either way il be glad, it would be even better if it were a fighter similar to Calzagh/kessler where both guys come out with Pride.

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I think they are both fighters who definetly wont lose without a bloody battle or massive KO as nither of them give up easy. I think we are in for a treat and I cant wait, still not sure where I am watching it yet but aint missing it for nothing!!

This fight is definatly a toss up....check out this prediction article................http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article14053.html

As far as speed and power go in this fight I think a better comparision would be Cotto's fight with Judah. You can only compare the first couple of rounds as Judah tailed off as the fight went on. Which I dont see Mosely tailing off in this fight. The couple times Cotto was rocked, only once did it seem to affect him most of the round. The big difference I think is that SSM is going to be able to sustain his attacks through out the fight, while Judah only did it the first few rounds. But I am real interested to see how SSM stands up to Cotto's sustained attack to the body. This has a great chance to be FOTY, both guys come to fight and dont back down. Wish I could get somewhere to see it. I will have to settle for downloading it the next day.

I am rooting for Cotto, but there is no shame if he loses to SSM.

....the tailing off depends on if Cotto causes damage to Shane especially to the body.

Shane has never fought a guy who digs to the body like Cotto....Cotto has fought power punchers, Cotto has fought speedy slick boxers, now he just has to merge the two.

Shane is a class fighter, maybe an all-time great but I feel he is going to lose out to a younger hungrier fighter

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yeah, lets not mention Cotto struggling with weight for like his last 2 fights at 140.
Lets not mention he started talking about moving up in weight after the Torres fight but still fought there.
I mean I don't need to see the fight over to know he decided to box Paulie, Cotto turned to a boxer and boxed Paulie in the last rounds turning southpaw and all. He knew he was wining and knew Paulie couldn't fade him.

Cotto at 140 is not the same Cotto we see here at 147.
Cottos nutrioning is better, Cottos body is more full here and this weight fits him well for now.

There is no doubt in my mind that SSMs speed will cause Cotto lots of problems especially early on but once Cotto adjusts I think hes gonna take over. I think SSM will have really good moments throughout the fight showing good speed and landing really good shots. But it is also important to see whos landing the harder cleaner punches and whos doing the most damage.

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Mosley vs Cotto is a 50/50 to me every boxer that face Cotto made the mistake of thinking he is onedimensional and that is were they fail.

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PAAAAANAAAAAAA!!!

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Very well said mi hermano, SSM said "I've fought his style before, I've seen it. I don't need a strategy or a plan I'm just gonna go in there and fight him as I go along." "I know how to beat his kind, hes robotical and does standard things I already know"

Right on Shane, you do your thing. Go in there without a plan you'll be OK. :)

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Mick,you deserve another cc in 24 for that post.And cc to you too Puya. Remember people,Cotto weighed this much when he was in his early teens!!It's incredible that he is still around at this weight! I see a move to 154 sooner or later but for now,I want to see him kick ass at WW! The best part about the posts are the highlighted,awesome stuff.

I can say all that has already been said about Mosley...
... but lets not forget COTTO's a BEAST!
He's a monster! A Loco-Motive! :)

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yeah, lets not mention Cotto struggling with weight for like his last 2 fights at 140.
Lets not mention he started talking about moving up in weight after the Torres fight but still fought there.
I mean I don't need to see the fight over to know he decided to box Paulie, Cotto turned to a boxer and boxed Paulie in the last rounds turning southpaw and all. He knew he was wining and knew Paulie couldn't fade him.

Cotto at 140 is not the same Cotto we see here at 147.
Cottos nutrioning is better, Cottos body is more full here and this weight fits him well for now.

There is no doubt in my mind that SSMs speed will cause Cotto lots of problems especially early on but once Cotto adjusts I think hes gonna take over. I think SSM will have really good moments throughout the fight showing good speed and landing really good shots. But it is also important to see whos landing the harder cleaner punches and whos doing the most damage.

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Mosley vs Cotto is a 50/50 to me every boxer that face Cotto made the mistake of thinking he is onedimensional and that is were they fail.

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PAAAAANAAAAAAA!!!

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Very well said mi hermano, SSM said "I've fought his style before, I've seen it. I don't need a strategy or a plan I'm just gonna go in there and fight him as I go along." "I know how to beat his kind, hes robotical and does standard things I already know"

Right on Shane, you do your thing. Go in there without a plan you'll be OK. :)

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Mick,you deserve another cc in 24 for that post.And cc to you too Puya. Remember people,Cotto weighed this much when he was in his early teens!!It's incredible that he is still around at this weight! I see a move to 154 sooner or later but for now,I want to see him kick ass at WW! The best part about the posts are the highlighted,awesome stuff.

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Well heres #2838 on me and thanks for the feed back. People want to mention all these kind of things about Cottos fight with Paulie but they don't mention things like weight issues. ::**