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Froch v Reid analysis
What are your thoughts? Im toodrunk toh give a proper view of the fight but allinall idont thik much to froch and think he will get found out against world class opposittion. would be glad to hear any views cos from his post match interview he seems to think he o is something hes not
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Re: Froch v Reid analysis
It was a great fight to watch I thought.
Watt annoyed me as he always does though. He was basically describing it as if Froch was coasting the entire fight and it wasn't like that at all.
Reid was throwing bombs and Froch was getting way too careless in there. He kept adjusting his shorts and dropping his hands and got caught out big time in the 4th round I believe.
Although Watt didn't make anything of it I actually thought Froch looked gone for a while. He came out very tentatively in the 5th and seemed to be unsteady on his feet to me.
If Reid was 10 years younger I reckon he could have won that fight and I'm one of Froch's biggest fans.
Great fighter but he hangs his chin out too much and nearly paid the price tonight.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
It was a great fight to watch I thought.
Watt annoyed me as he always does though. He was basically describing it as if Froch was coasting the entire fight and it wasn't like that at all.
Reid was throwing bombs and Froch was getting way too careless in there. He kept adjusting his shorts and dropping his hands and got caught out big time in the 4th round I believe.
Although Watt didn't make anything of it I actually thought Froch looked gone for a while. He came out very tentatively in the 5th and seemed to be unsteady on his feet to me.
If Reid was 10 years younger I reckon he could have won that fight and I'm one of Froch's biggest fans.
Great fighter but he hangs his chin out too much and nearly paid the price tonight.
:coolclick: Dammit...you make it sound like a much better fight than it sounded...& that aint no offense to Rhun.
As much as I don't dig on Froch...I really want to see this fight now. I have only seen Reid a few times...& for some reason...I always thought that he was exciting...don't matter now...seeing as how he's done...but if he put up a good fight against Froch...I WANNA SEE IT.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
It was a great fight to watch I thought.
Watt annoyed me as he always does though. He was basically describing it as if Froch was coasting the entire fight and it wasn't like that at all.
Reid was throwing bombs and Froch was getting way too careless in there. He kept adjusting his shorts and dropping his hands and got caught out big time in the 4th round I believe.
Although Watt didn't make anything of it I actually thought Froch looked gone for a while. He came out very tentatively in the 5th and seemed to be unsteady on his feet to me.
If Reid was 10 years younger I reckon he could have won that fight and I'm one of Froch's biggest fans.
Great fighter but he hangs his chin out too much and nearly paid the price tonight.
:coolclick: Dammit...you make it sound like a much better fight than it sounded...& that aint no offense to Rhun.
As much as I don't dig on Froch...I really want to see this fight now. I have only seen Reid a few times...& for some reason...I always thought that he was exciting...don't matter now...seeing as how he's done...but if he put up a good fight against Froch...I WANNA SEE IT.
:cooclick: back Wack, just go and download it from WBVA that's where I got it from.
I thought it was a really entertaining fight, probably less so if you already know the result beforehand but after the fourth round I really felt Froch was in trouble. He kept rubbing his leg as well and had been off for 7 months with a knee injury so I was thinking he'd maybe dislocated his knee or something.
Shame Reid quit as it was really starting to get interesting.
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Reid didnt want to be there and shouldnt have been.
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Ried took a dive, the knockdowns were bullshit and he was fine to carry on, he was paid IMO sadly.
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Reid didnt want to be there and shouldnt have been.
Glad someone else picked up on it too ;)
Reid looked scared as soon as he got in the ring and he did get into fight mode a little after a few rounds but just melted shortly afterwards.
Froch did look controlled but i admit he is so open to a right hand at times it's unreal.
He did show a good chin for me though but Reid just didn't turn up and was clearly after a payday and profile boost ;)
Calzaghe won't go near him so i'd like to see Froch in with Kessler at some point after Joe relinquishes those 4 belts.
Maybe a tune up for Carl and then who knows :)
One thing i do know is that JC would toy with Froch 8)
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Any one see Froch blatantly put both knees into Reids head after the first KO?
He can be dirty at times Froch and i remember when he dropped Magee heavily in the 11th then dragged his foot across his throat (forcing his head up at a nasty angle) while he lay in a heap underneath him.
NO NEED CARL ;)
That final KO shook Reids bones bigtime.
He really can bang Froch!!
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Originally Posted by Smashup
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Reid didnt want to be there and shouldnt have been.
Glad someone else picked up on it too ;)
Reid looked scared as soon as he got in the ring and he did get into fight mode a little after a few rounds but just melted shortly afterwards.
Froch did look controlled but i admit he is so open to a right hand at times it's unreal.
He did show a good chin for me though but Reid just didn't turn up and was clearly after a payday and profile boost ;)
Calzaghe won't go near him so i'd like to see Froch in with Kessler at some point after Joe relinquishes those 4 belts.
Maybe a tune up for Carl and then who knows :)
One thing i do know is that JC would toy with Froch 8)
Reid wasn't scared, he just wanted a pay day and imo got a backhander too..
ow can a former world champion at 36 who knows he wont win a world belt again get up for a fight for the longsdale belt? there was nothing in this for reid apart form money.
Another tune up for froch? he has had 22 already.
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He looked seriously UN confident and nervous to me mate!
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Anyone seen Ross ;D
lol , he will be slitting his wrists at the result. Yes i did See Froch do that with his knees, but Reid shouldnt have pulled him down. I would have done the same thing ;D
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What did Froch say after the fight? i was in the pub and they turned the volume off after the fight :'(
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Was too hammered to notice ;D
That last Ko was pure power 8)
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Was too hammered to notice ;D
That last Ko was pure power 8)
He never let his right uppercut go which i was surprised about, but i still had him winning every round !
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Rosssssssssssss ;D
C'mon mate let's ave ya!!!
I seriously wanna know your views on Carl now,you gotta give him some credit now?
And your spot on Tam...he never landed his pay off shot once i don't think but that right cross was like a battering ram last night and was hurting Reid everytime it landed flush ;)
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Any one see Froch blatantly put both knees into Reids head after the first KO?
He can be dirty at times Froch and i remember when he dropped Magee heavily in the 11th then dragged his foot across his throat (forcing his head up at a nasty angle) while he lay in a heap underneath him.
NO NEED CARL ;)
That final KO shook Reids bones bigtime.
He really can bang Froch!!
Lol..No..I thought ried dragged him down with him they rolled over n thats just how carl ended up..Lol
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Rosssssssssssss ;D
C'mon mate let's ave ya!!!
I seriously wanna know your views on Carl now,you gotta give him some credit now?
And your spot on Tam...he never landed his pay off shot once i don't think but that right cross was like a battering ram last night and was hurting Reid everytime it landed flush ;)
Reid my analysis on the RBR this is what i feel about the fight 8)
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I thought Reid had absolutely nothing left from the first bell. He was completely shot. It was a total joke of a fight.
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I wasnt impressed. Froch barely scrapes the SMW top 6 IMO.
The way he steps things up he might challenge for a world belt just before retiring.
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miles,i didnt see the fight yet,how was it?how did froch look?has reid got anything left?
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Originally Posted by ryanman89
miles,i didnt see the fight yet,how was it?how did froch look?has reid got anything left?
The fight was fun, but nothing to write home about.
Froch looked decent but then he was facing a Reid who hasnt looked world class for a long time now. I was thinking perhaps Reid had enough to take it to the distance..but no. Reid is done.
Froch is really dirty and has serious issues with his defence. I dont put him inside the top 6. It will probably be another 6 months before Im allowed to revise any opinions I might have.
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Originally Posted by miles
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miles,i didnt see the fight yet,how was it?how did froch look?has reid got anything left?
The fight was fun, but nothing to write home about.
Froch looked decent but then he was facing a Reid who hasnt looked world class for a long time now. I was thinking perhaps Reid had enough to take it to the distance..but no. Reid is done.
Froch is really dirty and has serious issues with his defence. I dont put him inside the top 6. It will probably be another 6 months before Im allowed to revise any opinions I might have.
i think i might agree with you about froch.i was so impressed with him as an amateur,i though he could go a REALLY long way,but he hasnt really carried that promise over into the pros in my opinion.He has almost talked and promoted his way into a title shot.Im not saying he isnt good but just that he isnt anywhere near as good as people seem to think.however i would pay a lot of money to see froch vs lacy from a purely entertainment point of view!!
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Well when the fight finished i just said what a load of shit that was....
i was well excited for this fight and it let me down on all levels.
there was one thing that impressed me in the whole fight and that was Froch's chin.... that haymaker Reid caught him with right on the button would have ko'd alot of boxers.
and for a split secont it shook Froch's boots... but he shook off the effect instantly.
if you get the chance to watch that bit again you'll see what i mean, AMAZING powers of recovery from Froch ;)
sad to see Reid go out like that but hes done at top level and it was cool for Froch to admit as much in the after fight interview 8)
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Ive been warming to Froch of late but thought he looked crap.
Maybe the ring rust and knee injury had something to do with it BUT if Reid (who played his part as the "shot" fighter giving it one last go to perfection) was a only a few years younger it would/could of turned out very different.
I'm back to thinking Froch will get mullered when he faces someone with class and AMBITION.
:lolhaha: AT Reid giving him lessons/pointers afterwards, summed it up.
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Reid probably just didnt want to get his face rearranged. Then hed be out of two careers. This was obviously a payday.
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I was at the fight and was dissappointed Reid didnt show more, he felt Frochs power and new he was in for a hiding. Good workout for Carl seeing as hes just had major knee surgery. Froch can go all the way IMO but he needs to forget calzaghe. calzaghes only interested in his pension now and iv never considered kessler that good any way. Dont Blame calz for wanting dollars to fight popkins. Froch has the ability to take out Calzaghe and as shown with Kessler joe can be open to uppercuts. Im not sure Joes takes many uppercuts from Froch
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Ok, smash, if im totaly honest I knew it was a big ask for this version of Robin to do a number on anyone
His fight against Magee, his power wan him the fight although it was still impressive he could land that right as much as he did against the awkward and negative Magee, then against serdjane he moaned like mad to the ref when it was only a 6 rounder, then the Lacy fight ???
I thought the Brinkley fight held out some hope for him because he didnt whine to the ref and was getting as much rough treatment as he was giving out.
I watched Reid since he beat the title from Nardiello and was won over by his personality, a quick wit and didnt take any stick, he could also take a good shot and come firing back but he never made the most out of his career, he seemed to lose interest the minute he wan the title in italy, just turning up and going throught the motions, I remember watching him against Branco and being frustrated with his performance.
He never seemed the type to want a legacy more a big bank acount but he did have the right tools and on his day could have given anyone a good scrap as he proved against Calzaghe.
I was typing all I was in the hope that maybe he read through some forums and noticed them, he might have got disheartened with all the negative ones and I was hoping to remind him of his pros versus Frochs cons, I know that sounds pathetic ;D
At the end of the fight I still have the same opinion on Froch as I did before, he is easy to outmanouvre, out jab and catch with the right, especially that right Reid threw. He did hurt Froch but ducked straight down to avoid a counter where Froch held him, if it had been a younger Reid there would have been a follow up or 2 and I have no doubts after seeing Froch stunned on the ropes that he wouldnt have had the wherewhithall to deal with it and end up on his arse.
This fight has shown nothing different in Froch and if he does fight Kessler I cant see him lasting to the final bell, that guard would be pierced all night
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Here we go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5M4Gr_tH2I
Apart from the knockdown Reid wan those last 2 rounds until Hughes pulled him out
If a 37 year old retired Reid can outbox Froch the hotshot.......