I said this before,I'll say it again,this would be one of the best fights' we've ever seen. And Margarito would win. No more slow starting,those vicious uppercuts and his chin,he would beat Cotto although I don't mind who wins.Both are awesome.
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I said this before,I'll say it again,this would be one of the best fights' we've ever seen. And Margarito would win. No more slow starting,those vicious uppercuts and his chin,he would beat Cotto although I don't mind who wins.Both are awesome.
i think this is a bad fight for cotto, too much risk and not as much reward.
i agree that he would exciting as hell though.
if it was to happen i say margarito wins because i think he is too big for cotto, great chin and throws alot, i think he would maybe take cotto out in the later rounds or decision
And Margarito's best punch is the one Cotto is open to the most-The uppercut.
no!!!!! maywheater cotto needs to happen. cotto just defeated mosley who imo is the best welterweight, and fighting margarito will be a step down for cotto. He needs floyd to put his name on concrete as truely the best welterweight now. Cotto does not need margarito, he needs floyd. hopefully floyd doesn't duck him like he duck margarito.
I don't really care to see a Mayweather fight,a Margarito would be far more exciting. And a Mayweather fight would be alot of hassle to make,I don't want Miguel wasting time trying to go after Floyd in negotiations like Tony did.
I have Cotto as the best WW right now from the fighters he's beaten at WW:Quintana,Urkal,Zab,and Shane compared to Baldo,Sharmba and Zab. I don't need a title(lineal,alphabet,whatever) to tell me Cotto is the best WW on the planet.
Margarito/Cotto needs to happen. Simple as that. Cintron better stay away from both these guys right now. Will be interesting to see what Floyd has to say about Cott's win last night. He'll say something disrespectful I'm sure.
I'm the biggest Cotto fan in the world but a Margarito or Cintron fight is a risky fight for him. I honestly think that Margarito is very underated and he looked very hungry last night. Cintron on the other hand has an incredible power and can hurt Cotto easily since he loves to get hit. I'll still root for my boy but these are the risky fights.
I love Cotto AND Tony and I would sig bet anyone here,that Margarito would win. I've been saying it since the beginning of the year and I'll continue to say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli_jr24
yes. I don't want it to happen yet. I know it's coming but I think Cotto should fight someone else for now. Margarito is dangerous for Cotto. Like we've said all along.....styles make fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Anyone else notice how Manny Steward got a dig in on Mayweather last night? Him and Kellerman were talking earlier in the fight about the P4P best, and Manny asked Kellerman if he would still consider Floyd the best if he refused to fight the winner of this fight (Cotto/Mosley). Kellerman said, until I see him get beat, Floyd is the best. At the end of the fight, he asked him again, if he refuses to fight Cotto, is he still the best, Kellerman said yes. Manny said something like, "well you can have him cause I want nothing to do with him!"
Well Cotto made me a true believer last night, but Tony's my boy and I'll never bet against him. I won't bet against Cotto again though either, so I'll sit on the fence. All I know for sure is it will be un ugly, brutal fight, a throwback fight. Cintron has power and until I seehim go deep sea fishing that's all he has. Tony made him cur out once, and Cotto and Tony will do it again. Shane hit him hard last night, but Cotto stayed around. Cintron may be harder puncher, but if he can't get him out with a few big shots he'll roll up like a doodlebug and quit. No trying to be purposely offensive to the Cintron fans, but I can't stand a quitter.
Yeah bro,I heard that and I agree with Steward,it was one of the fight decent things he said all night.IF Mayweather does not fight Cotto,how can he be considered the best fighter at 147 pounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse James
They are 2 awesome fighters,styles make fights,I'm going for Tony to win ut would not mind a Miguel victory. I see Margarito as being ultra hungry at this point. He'll keep winning until he gets his big shot hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
I think Cotto should fight the winner of Mayweather/Hatton. The winner of that fight should fight Margarito, and in the meantime Tony should fight one more preparatory fight against someone like Cintron, or even Judah, if ole Zab is up for getting embarassed again. :)
Thats a good scenario but win lose or draw,I see Hatton fighting Oscar. Too much $$$ to turn down. THat leaves Mayweather and Cotto,and Floyd isn't exactly going to rush to sign the contract. He's going to take ages as he does,sooo...Cotto can fight Tony. :D Screw Judah ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jesse James
Yeah I had wanted to see Tony fight Judah but no point in it now. Judah would be ruined for good, even for FNF bums. Margarito needs Cotto, Hatton or I wouldn't mind seeing him finish the job Tony started with Cintron. PW and Cotto would be intriguing as there would be so much height advantage. Cotto's next fight can't come soon enough for me, nor Margarito's.
I have heard Tony intends to fight 3 or 4 times next year!!! Here's hoping! I don't remember the last time he did that! I'd like to see Tony fight decent fighters,but if I'm honest,I want him to get his big shot asap. He's beaten enough fringe contenders,he's fought guys who are under rated or who he did not have to fight all throughout his career,it's time for the big names. I want to see Cotto etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
He asked for a PW rematch but that's not going to happen for a while,PW is probably going to have 1 warm up and then fight Kermit. So Tony has to stay busy. I can see a Cotto fight happening though,and it would be easy to make!
I hope he does, and think he really means to, fight that many times next year. He wants to have people remember his name in this division and the best way to do it, especially with all these names at WW, is to fight. Now he just has to get people to want to fight him. Cotto no doubt will, as I don't think he fears anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I have no doubt in my mind that Cotto-Margarito would be an awesome fight. But what I don't like is Margarito demanding to fight either Cotto or the winner of the Floyd-Hatton fight. Boxing has unwritten rules. You lose, you go back a few notches and work your way back up. Since when can a 4-loss fighter demand an immediate match against an undefeated champion? I'm not saying Margarito doesn't belong in there with the elite. I'm just saying he needs to wait in line. And if that means waiting until after Cotto and Floyd have a "go" at it, then he's just going to have to be patient. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people around here just waiting for Cotto to lose, so they can put him at the end of the line. Margarito looked great last night. But let's not get completely carried away.
Just my opinion, of course.
Exactly...Cotto has a better chance to beat Floyd, but Tony is dangerous fight for Cotto. It's dangerous situation when your biggest weakness plays into your opponents greatest strength. You need a jab to beat Mayweather, and Cotto has a great jab. You need powerful uppercuts to beat Cotto, and Tony is the best in the business at those.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Margarito needs to fight the winner of Williams/Cintron to see who gets Cotto after Floyd/Hatton. A win over Golden Johnson doesnt throw you right back in the mix, even a devastating k.o.
I tend to agree, though my patience will be severely tested waiting for Floyd to make the fight with Cotto. He'll probably retire after Hatton, then come out of retirement 1 year later. In the meantime, Cotto/Margarito will appease my violent nature. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
margarito KO a jobber, and cotto beat mosley
cotto mayweather needs to happen
Oh my aching Head ;D Margarito Did In fact and is Indeed Coming back Fierce.He really looks pumped.No slow start here...123 punches in 2:28,Mix in 3 Knockdowns.Granted Johnson was taylor made and off long layoff but it would not have mattered.In contrast to Cotto's Post Interview (Refuses to call anyone out ,I leave it to da company??) Margarito calls out and demands fights with the best.
I think Margarito Beats Williams and Cotto.Cotto turned a page in his career last night and showed signs of "Maturing".If he were to try this style More boxing or close on the inside against Margarito he too would be taylor made IMO.Shanes punches had no effect,save that moment in 9th, but Tonys rangy mixup of sharp shots would reek havoc.He needs to get right in the mix,Dont sit around and get stale with to many "stay busy" fights although activity is indeed key.Strike when the steel is hot.Welcome back Antonio :badass:
Not to dis Margarito in any way. (I think he's a great, entertaining fighter). But Golden is no Shane.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
For the first time since I can remember, we totally and completely agree.
exactly tony was suppose to win in anyway he choose, a first round k.o is always great. But cotto defeated shane who many people thought he wouldn't. And I was one of them. Cotto needs to fight winner of hatton/floyd and tony can get his rematch with williams if williams beat cintron.
Actually as much as I want to see Tony and Cotto go at it, for just the fireworks it will produce, your scenario sounds reasonable. I'd also like to see Tony try to avenge that loss against Williams, so I would be hyped for that fight for sure. Either way, Cotto has his respect now now from alot of people, and all eyes are on him now, even Floyd's I would imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius "Marvelous" Rain
I think it will happen. I see Floyd beating Hatton then not wanting to fight Margartio or Cotto by going back into so called retirement. Arum has already talked about Cotto and Margarito fighting. I for one can't wait for this fight.
That's a very very good post and I totally agree with you for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanE
Some excellent points as per usual my friend. The other side to this is that,Tony has been at WW for a long time and has beaten a long list of fighters,fringe contenders,young fighters etc. He deserves a shot alot more than anyone else and has yet to recieve it. I have no qualms about a Floyd-Cotto fight,I just think Floyd is going to be a bitch in negotiations and I'd rather Cotto stayed active rather than waiting around for Floyd who wil beat Hatton,then dilly dally around for the most amount of $$$,make an anonouncement of his retirement and then MAYBE fight Cotto. Tony is there. He'll fight anytime,any day.No hassle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Sorry bro but it won't. Too much risk little reward. Margarito just lost his Tittle. If he erally wants Cotto let him fight he way up and the challenge. Mayweather/Hatton vs Cotto is what needs to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
i think Margatito should take on Paul Williams again.
if he is so much better now then he should have no problem in beating Williams.
He has no right in my opinion challenging Cotto/Mayweather/Hatton until that happens.
or since Cintron also looks so much better than before, i think he should give Cintron a rematch.
Margarito chin and power not to mention his uppercuts and punch out put Cotto is going to be trouble styles make fights.
Am I the only one who who felt bad for poor Golden Johnson? Not only did he get completely annihilated to the point of embarassment, but after that first knockdown he looked to be in serious pain. Normally a fighter just looks dazed when he hits the canvas but Johnson was holding his head and cringing like he just got hit with a hammer.
I felt bad for him just because it was such an embarassing way to lose in that short of time. Tony wasn't playing around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse James
He sure wasn't. That's one of the reasons I could never be a pro fighter. I couldn't handle being wrecked like that in front of so many people.
Thats a bit silly to say he has no right to challenge them when he has been in the WW division far far longer than of all them.And I would not mind seeing him beat up on Cintron again,just because Kermit has been beating these c grade fighters and looking good whilst doing so,does not mean he will do better v Tony. PW was offered the immediate rematch and refused. Had Margarito not fought Williams,he would have fought Cotto,so he has just as much right as anyone else to ask to face either of those guys. They have all had thei shots at the bigtime,now it's his turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_Tha_Man
you know what I think of Margarito getting a shot at Cotto at this moment..
but on a positive note. It was great to see Margarito of before with that incredible punches like a Mule. poor golden Johnson. he said to the corner "someone is throwing bombs at me who is it?" ;D
Those bombs weren't coming from George Bush ;D Tiajuana Tornado babe ;) I feel for Tony's sparring partners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
I was just reading an interview with Bob Arum and he said if Floyd isn't available or doesn't want to fight Cotto depending on the outcome of Mayweather/Hatton, then they are going to try and set up a Cotto/Margarito fight for June on Puerto Rican Day. Would be a dream fight for me, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.
This would be a great fight...Cotto won't last the distance!
you know what, you're right. i wouldn't mind seeing this fight.i 'm just saying that just because you have been in the division longer does not make you the king of it. It really doesn't mater you have to earn your shot!! and as of right now since Tony lost his title, all he has done is beat on Golden Johnson who by the way just like Cintron's opponents is a C class fighter as well ::** . So you say, you lose a fight , beat up a C class fighter and you get to fight Cotto or Mayweather?? i think you need to take those certain steps. fighting Cintron or Williams first, is taking those necessary steps to have a bigger fight against Cotto or Mayweather. regardless I'm all down to watch this fight if it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo