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I know,some of you guys may make objections to this,but it is the natural thing to do after the Cotto Mosley fight. Mayweather v Cotto. What are your thoughts on the fight? Who wins?Can it be made?Does Miguel stand a chance? Are you even interested in the fight?If this thread has been done,then Mods please delete it. Otherwise,let me know your thoughts my fellow Saddoneans!
erm............................mayweather ain't beaten hatton yet . what about cotto v hatton!
I know,and I feel slightly disrespectful towards Hatton for making this thread. I give him a good chance of making it a close fight with Mayweather but in no way,shape or form,do I see him winning(even though I'd actually like to see him win). Cotto-Hatton would be a war...until Ricky gets KTFO in the 10th round. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by fugaziuk
i would much rather see hatton v cotto. mayweather can fight mosley after hatton drops him.
After being so "sure" about Mosley beating Cotto, I wonder how "sure" I am about Floyd beating Ricky. But in respect to Gamo's thread about Cotto/Mayweather, I'll say this. I'm not betting against Cotto again. Floyd can outpoint Cotto but he will be running all night. Cotto's slicker and more clever than I thought and no one walks through him, k.o. or points wise. Floyd's going to have to et physical with this kat and I don't think Floyd can take too many physical encounters with Cotto, so his boxing skills will have to be very sharp indeed if they meet. I never thought I would bet against Floyd in this WW division, but Cotto has risen to each occasion, as has Floyd. I don't know.
I think floyd isn't even the best welterweight; cotto,mosley,margarito and even paul williams can out gun him. Floyd has a hell of a lot of possible fights in the future. Hopefully he does not bitch out and retire. Hatton is the safest fight for floyd if you do the math. Thats why floyd is fighting hatton. When floyd does beat hatton, floyd has no choice but to fight any of the top four welterweights. IF not then he needs to really retire and step off of the way of cotto. Yes right now I think cotto is the best welterweight! now that he has beated mosley. Cotto just keeps on trucking, getting better and stronger. He'll be pound for pound best sooner or later.
Hatton is not physically strong enough for Cotto, Hattons strenghts in the ring would be taken away from him agaisnt Cotto, it would be a good fight i feel similar to Marquez-Vasquez 2, in that they both throwing bombs until the physically stronger guy is just to strong and takes him out (Cotto taking Hatton out)
Mayweather Cotto, i think Mayweather wins like7-5 or 8-4, with him on the back foot most of the fight.
It is very clear that not HAtton or PBF are a walk in the park. Then there is Cotto he is annoying as well hehe ;D
A fight between Cotto and Hatton/Mayweather will be another tactical fight withi Floyd since he is fast and great boxing skills but he will also will buy a scooter( get in shape) to run for 12 rounds he doesn't want to be there and get hit for nothing. maybe judges will turn to score like Leaderman ( if you run you loose the round). SP (it could go either way)
Against Hatton uufff now that's a fight. two relentless SOB's and of course giving the fight to Cotto by UD since he being a very tactical rough house
personally i would not like to see that fight happen
i would much rather see a fight between Cotto/Hatton which was the fight that needed to happen a while back.
plus i would rather see Mosley/Mayweather since their styles would probably make for a better fight.
i also wouldn't mind seeing Cotto/Margarito, Cotto/Cintron, or Cotto/Williams
but like Miguel said that he'll fight whoever his people tell him to fight so lets hope that they don't.
now if they do then no matter what i'll be rooting for my boy!!
I like that match up regardless of mayweather - hatton outcome.. mayweather is a technically brilliant instinctive . however a waste of talent you ask me, his skills could have been used to put fire back into the sport. Floyd would rather take a backwards step then finish a guy off, Floyd was a more exciting fighter at 135 that mindset he has now , makes for boring matches. hatton- Cotto would be a thriller.Quote:
Originally Posted by fugaziuk
I think Floyd vs Cotto is THE fight that has to be made in 2008.
Once Floyd has completed the routine formalities of dispatching Ricky Hatton he needs to step up and take the fight with Cotto,
I'm still 100% behind the pretty boy as always I reckon he'll put a beating on Cotto but it could be a great, great fight.
This will be basically Leonard vs Duran for the new millennium and I can't wait.
Hatton would be killed by a Cotto body attack, he is just too small to handle it.
Yeah if Ricky stayed at 140 and Cotto had to starve it would be closer and more interesting.
PBF skills are way different then Rays and Cotto is like Duran and PBF is not bigger then Cotto. The different with Ray verse Duran is that i think Ray was the bigger man and at Welterweight his skills as a boxer and his strength far surpass Floyd. People forget how Floyd best weight was at 135 i think it all depends on how the judges look at the fight if PBF is not active i think Cotto will take for rounds and win a UD.
Cotto would KTFO Hatton inside six and would give Mayweather his toughest battle. You need power to stop Cotto from coming, and even that might not do it, now that it's clear to the world that Cotto can fight going backwards! The more he fights the more all around skills he shows!!
:coolclick: I see nothing wrong with this thread...even though someone has already lambasted you for it. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Anywho...provided that Hatton doesn't either beat Floyd or bust him up or cut him...YES...Hatton vs Floyd is the fight to be made.
I will say this...as much as we have all talked back & forth...Hatton vs Cotto is not really something I want to see...Hatton's style vs Cotto's style would amount to a headbutt with a cut most likely. They both rush in far too much for a compelling flight, IWHO.
As far as Floyd vs Cotto goes...I think that it would be fantastic & that it would probably be the tuffest test of both Cotto & Floyd's career. As far as the outcome...I think that Floyd would use the Mosley fight as a blue print to beating Cotto. Had Mosley not stood in the pocket with Cotto...we have had a different outcome on our hands.
Floyd would box smarter & not stay in front of Cotto as long as we saw Mosley do.
Floyd is one helluva boxer, but a fighter, he ain't. I don't think he could take the type of shots that Mosley took, so his only chance would be to do what he always does, evade and pot shot. The question would be, can Cotto chase him down and catch him cleanly with power shots? This seems to be the standing challenge to all of Mayweather's opponents. The little SOB is just too hard to hit. I'd love to see this fight though, and I think Cotto has just as good of chance as any at dethroning PBF.
Just to be fair Andre Ricky was bad at 147 because he fought the wrong type of fighter....a fight vs Cotto would be different than the fight with Collazo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
I still think Cotto would smash him but it would be a fun fight to watch.
Hatton-Malinaggi would be nice to see
Well although i am a blatant Hatton fan, I give Ricky a chance against any of the fighters mentioned above. And i certainly don't see him being stopped
Cotto-Floyd. I LOVE Miguel,literally,and if anyone can beat Floyd,it's him BUT,Floyd is so hard to catch. I'd love to see Miguel land on him though,Floyds never met anyone that can dig to the body as hard as Cotto and yes,I include the arm punches Oscar was throwing at Floyd at 154. Cotto's jab could be the key,but I also think the ring size is important.
I understand what you said Wack about Floyd not standing in front of Cotto for long like Shane BUT Floyd has a VERY LIMITED arsenal at 147. His defence wins the fight.He also voluntarily backs up the ropes(did this alot v Baldo and Oscar) and that would play into Miguel's favour. Remember,Miguel will hit you anywhere,as long as it's damaging,it doesnt matter.
I can see Cotto racking up points via his jab.He may not land anywhere near as much as he usually does because Floyd has an AMAZING defence but judges,as stupid as it is,don't ALWAYS score for the person landing the most amount of punches. Sometimes,throwing lots more punches than your opponent can do the trick(see Ponce v Penelosa and PW v Tony) In fact,that could be considered the case in Oscar v Floyd even. I had Floyd,as did most who know how to score fights,winning by a good3-4 point margin. The judges had it far closer,because of the illusion that Oscar was throwing and landing alot more.
Taking into account all the factors,plus others I have not mentioned like Cotto's deceptive handspeed,ability to cut off the ring,I'm going for a Miguel split decision.Sledom am I wrong with big fights,I've never been wrong with a Cotto fight,and I don't think I would be here.
I reckon that Cotto v Hatton is a much better match-up for the fans, because although Mayweather is the most complete boxer that we have in the world at the moment, he doesn't get involved in the exciting scraps that we all want to see.
He didn't get any sympathy from the fans when he retired last time out, so I hope that he goes off and retires in a huff after this next one, although I'm pretty sure he will win against Hatton.
Hatton v Cotto would be a proper battle between two great fighters, but although I'd watch Cotto v Floyd, I wouldn't expect a thriller.