BBC Sports Personality of the Year - won't be Calzaghe or Hatton will it...

We are nearly at that time of the year again and regardless of what Calzaghe has done or what Hatton may eclipse and do (his fight is the day before the award is given) this year I think we all know neither of them will win.

Lewis Hamilton will win for coming SECOND !

I know the general public see more of Hamiilton than they do of boxers but I think it's a farce (and Hamilton would probably agree)

As Calzaghe said last year - we only seem to vote for losers over here. Hamilton has done really well yes (though he did have one of the top cars) but he is not worthy of this award - not yet.

Am urging you all to vote Calzaghe or Hatton now !!

Currenty I would go with Calzaghe but Hatton ain't done this year.....yet...... ;)

:coolclick: Mark, your right about Hamilton. We need to get behind our sport ;)

Mind you dont they have a young sports personality of the year?

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

We are nearly at that time of the year again and regardless of what Calzaghe has done or what Hatton may eclipse and do (his fight is the day before the award is given) this year I think we all know neither of them will win.

Lewis Hamilton will win for coming SECOND !

I know the general public see more of Hamiilton than they do of boxers but I think it's a farce (and Hamilton would probably agree)

As Calzaghe said last year - we only seem to vote for losers over here. Hamilton has done really well yes (though he did have one of the top cars) but he is not worthy of this award - not yet.

Am urging you all to vote Calzaghe or Hatton now !!

Currenty I would go with Calzaghe but Hatton ain't done this year.....yet...... ;)

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Last years was a fucking fix. but this year the result is the day after hatton twats mayweather so he should get a few late phone votes. that said the way the bbc have been fiddling competitions i could win.

Calzaghe has no chance he couldn't even win last year when there was NO-ONE to beat. The fact that they finally recognised Phil Taylor says it all about last year...

Hatton's fight with Mayweather being on the same weekend obviously stops his chance of winning but should he beat Mayweather, the BBC and the winner (the young guy that drives the car) should stand-down an honour Hatton as the true and rightful winner.

I agree - imagine looks on people's faces if Lewis did that in his acceptance speech - "I'm sorry I really can't accept this, Ricky/Joe deserves it more - when I've won the title feel free to award me it then"


Won't happen but would be good - AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO

You're right about Taylor, was long overdue - never has a guy dominated a sport for so long and being so head and shoulders above the rest of the field

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

I agree - imagine looks on people's faces if Lewis did that in his acceptance speech - "I'm sorry I really can't accept this, Ricky/Joe deserves it more - when I've won the title feel free to award me it then"


Won't happen but would be good - AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO

You're right about Taylor, was long overdue - never has a guy dominated a sport for so long and being so head and shoulders above the rest of the field

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Remeber carl fogarty he never got a look in. the man was a fucking legend.

On top of which it's meant to go to a personality, not a corporate robot/billboard like Hamilton. Truly annoying.

I aint being funny i would love to see Joe win it... but fking hell hamilton should get this this year hands down..

He has smashed all sorts of records, what he done this year is fking amazing in any sport.

If Joe had had to big fights this year i would of been screaming for him, but i dunno its close with him and lewis. How do you say who has done better? Lewis has done this an entire season, it was truly amazing what he done and was very unlucky not to win the title.

They showed Calzaghe v Kessler on Saturday and apparently that has caused a huge upsurge in support, still though with the fight being on Setanta it's not in the spot light it should be and it's bound to be Hamilton who takes it.

Personally I'm back whichever distant member of the royal family with her sex life in the red-tops and rumours of a coke addiction amongst journos to win again this year.

Can't be a legit sportsperson...just wouldn't make sense.

Calzaghe is a winner, Hatton could be too depending....


Hamilton was runer up. His time will come.

He deserves credit but not to win it just yet. If he wins it this year and wins championship next year then will win it again next year. No justice

He is on terrestrial TV though which makes a massive difference. The general public are not aware of Calzaghe's achivements

Shame

Audley Harrison. He had an awesome '07.

Top 5 this year should be:

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Justin Rose
5. Nicola Sanders
6. Andy Murray
7. David Haye
8. Pardraig Harington
9. Paula Radcliffe
10. Jonny Wilkinson

Young Personality : Frankie Gavin

I think Haye's win over Mormeck is more impressive than Calzaghe's over Kessler.

Should Hatton beat Floyd he would totally obliterate everyone on the list. They should give him 1st, 2nd, 3rd - Team - Overseas.......

EDIT: Oops wrong thread

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Calzaghe has no chance he couldn't even win last year when there was NO-ONE to beat

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yeah but joe has had more maintream media coverage this year - which always helps.

they should def wait with hamilton - if he gets it this time what are they gonna do when he actually wins.

lewis has plenty of time how old is he 12?

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Top 5 this year should be:

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Justin Rose
5. Nicola Sanders
6. Andy Murray
7. David Haye
8. Pardraig Harington
9. Paula Radcliffe
10. Jonny Wilkinson

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id put wilkinson at 6 he lead the team the cup final!

also what about stevie g - captain for second time in champ league final

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Calzaghe has no chance he couldn't even win last year when there was NO-ONE to beat

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yeah but joe has had more maintream media coverage this year - which always helps.

they should def wait with hamilton - if he gets it this time what are they gonna do when he actually wins.

lewis has plenty of time how old is he 12?

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Top 5 this year should be:

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Justin Rose
5. Nicola Sanders
6. Andy Murray
7. David Haye
8. Pardraig Harington
9. Paula Radcliffe
10. Jonny Wilkinson

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id put wilkinson at 6 he lead the team the cup final!

also what about stevie g - captain for second time in champ league final

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Stevie G led a team...the top 10 that I have put all have had huge inidividual accheivements:

1. Calzaghe - 10 years champion
2. Hatton - Beaten Castillo and Mayweather ;)
3. Lewis Hamilton - For a rookie to come second in their debut year...amazing
4. Justin Rose - European Order of Merit in the least ever amount of tournaments
5. Nicola Sanders - World Champion in her debut World Championships
6. Andy Murray - 3 months off and breaks into the world top 10 anyway
7. David Haye - Unified world champion and first time of asking
8. Pardraig Harington - Open Winner
9. Paula Radcliffe - New York marathon winner after having a BABY!
10. Jonny Wilkinson - Recovered from injury to lead England to the world cup final.

AMAZING

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Calzaghe has no chance he couldn't even win last year when there was NO-ONE to beat

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yeah but joe has had more maintream media coverage this year - which always helps.

they should def wait with hamilton - if he gets it this time what are they gonna do when he actually wins.

lewis has plenty of time how old is he 12?

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But last year there was no outstanding favourite. Remember, Darren Clarke was tipped to win, and we all know only nominated because his wife died. Then obviously the Toff nicked it for steering a horse.

The guy that drives the car is a HUGE favourite to win and has been ever since he showed everyone he's good at seering the car.

Calzaghe has no chance.

look at that list of top ten contenders again

7 of the 10 are actual winners of something or world champions - surely more worthy


I will quote Top Gun at this stage - "NO POINTS FOR SECOND PLACE !!!!!!!"

Only one of those came in second place!!! Lewis Hamilton and he broke new ground this year by having the best rookie season ever. Never been done before.

All bar 2 are world champs.
Jonny and Hamilton

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Calzaghe has no chance he couldn't even win last year when there was NO-ONE to beat

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yeah but joe has had more maintream media coverage this year - which always helps.

they should def wait with hamilton - if he gets it this time what are they gonna do when he actually wins.

lewis has plenty of time how old is he 12?

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Top 5 this year should be:

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Justin Rose
5. Nicola Sanders
6. Andy Murray
7. David Haye
8. Pardraig Harington
9. Paula Radcliffe
10. Jonny Wilkinson

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id put wilkinson at 6 he lead the team the cup final!

also what about stevie g - captain for second time in champ league final

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Stevie G led a team...the top 10 that I have put all have had huge inidividual accheivements:

1. Calzaghe - 10 years champion
2. Hatton - Beaten Castillo and Mayweather ;)
3. Lewis Hamilton - For a rookie to come second in their debut year...amazing
4. Justin Rose - European Order of Merit in the least ever amount of tournaments
5. Nicola Sanders - World Champion in her debut World Championships
6. Andy Murray - 3 months off and breaks into the world top 10 anyway
7. David Haye - Unified world champion and first time of asking
8. Pardraig Harington - Open Winner
9. Paula Radcliffe - New York marathon winner after having a BABY!
10. Jonny Wilkinson - Recovered from injury to lead England to the world cup final.

AMAZING

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Harrington aint British, and also Ricky beating Mayweather in Vegas is far more impressive than Calzaghe beating Kessler in his back yard.

I love both of them!!! Love Love Love both of them! I'm a patriotic Brit to the full!!!

But Calzaghe has done this for 10 years. I know the awards are what has happened over the last year, but Calzaghe has never been rewarded for a 'Decade of Dominance'.

I just feel for the guy.

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I think Haye's win over Mormeck is more impressive than Calzaghe's over Kessler.

Should Hatton beat Floyd he would totally obliterate everyone on the list. They should give him 1st, 2nd, 3rd - Team - Overseas.......

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Mormeck had been koed a few fights before. he was nowhere near KLESSLERS level

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I think Haye's win over Mormeck is more impressive than Calzaghe's over Kessler.

Should Hatton beat Floyd he would totally obliterate everyone on the list. They should give him 1st, 2nd, 3rd - Team - Overseas.......

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Mormeck had been koed a few fights before. he was nowhere near KLESSLERS level

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Fenster has a point i suppose the betting shows that Haye had a harder night in hand than Joe. Joe is also on another level to Haye, hard to say but i think like you say Mormeck had been exposed before but was still a hard mo fo to take out, if i had to pick id put them on a par. Both great performances.

yeah thats about it, skel

Calzaghe-Kessler was a far bigger fight between the two PROVEN ELITE supermiddles in the world but Calzaghe was the favourite and had NOTHING to prove.

Haye has a lot of knockers, plenty were predicting failure, plenty have critisized the choices made - he has no stamina, he has no chin, he doesn't train right etc - yet he said along he'd go into the no.1 undisputed champs backyard and knock him out. And that's exactly what he did. Impressive :)

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yeah thats about it, skel

Calzaghe-Kessler was a far bigger fight between the two PROVEN ELITE supermiddles in the world but Calzaghe was the favourite and had NOTHING to prove.

Haye has a lot of knockers, plenty were predicting failure, plenty have critisized the choices made - he has no stamina, he has no chin, he doesn't train right etc - yet he said along he'd go into the no.1 undisputed champs backyard and knock him out. And that's exactly what he did. Impressive :)

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That's odd...he had nothing to prove yet prior to his fight with Kess, many people on this forum were calling him Calcrappy...yet I haven't heard it once since he won!!
I think he proved a point to a few


Oh and I'm not saying you guys did, but it was banded around!!!

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yeah thats about it, skel

Calzaghe-Kessler was a far bigger fight between the two PROVEN ELITE supermiddles in the world but Calzaghe was the favourite and had NOTHING to prove.

Haye has a lot of knockers, plenty were predicting failure, plenty have critisized the choices made - he has no stamina, he has no chin, he doesn't train right etc - yet he said along he'd go into the no.1 undisputed champs backyard and knock him out. And that's exactly what he did. Impressive :)

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That's odd...he had nothing to prove yet prior to his fight with Kess, many people on this forum were calling him Calcrappy...yet I haven't heard it once since he won!!
I think he proved a point to a few


Oh and I'm not saying you guys did, but it was banded around!!!

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Nothing to prove to ME. Calzaghe already had his place amongst the best ever supermiddles.. the Kessler win (arguably his best) just solidified/enhanced his standing.

The people calling him overrated before the fight haven't got a danny. Most of them don't like him because he's NEW to them and comes from the wrong side of the pond. They'll be back in force with all the "Calzcrappy" nonsense once his next fight is signed ;)

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yeah thats about it, skel

Calzaghe-Kessler was a far bigger fight between the two PROVEN ELITE supermiddles in the world but Calzaghe was the favourite and had NOTHING to prove.

Haye has a lot of knockers, plenty were predicting failure, plenty have critisized the choices made - he has no stamina, he has no chin, he doesn't train right etc - yet he said along he'd go into the no.1 undisputed champs backyard and knock him out. And that's exactly what he did. Impressive :)

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That's odd...he had nothing to prove yet prior to his fight with Kess, many people on this forum were calling him Calcrappy...yet I haven't heard it once since he won!!
I think he proved a point to a few


Oh and I'm not saying you guys did, but it was banded around!!!

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Nothing to prove to ME. Calzaghe already had his place amongst the best ever supermiddles.. the Kessler win (arguably his best) just solidified/enhanced his standing.

The people calling him overrated before the fight haven't got a danny. Most of them don't like him because he's NEW to them and comes from the wrong side of the pond. They'll be back in force with all the "Calzcrappy" nonsense once his next fight is signed ;)

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Very true Fenster...but we know the truth over here! ;) ;) ;) Certified Hall of Famer!!!