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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Shane Mosley
7.JMM
8. Winky Wright
9. Mikkel Kessler
10. Rafael Marquez, I think he's better than Vazquez and would beat more people, but maybe not Vazquez
Not a bad list but I would not have Kessler there. I'd DEFINITELY have Vazquez,you can't have Rafa and not have Isreal.Shane shouldn't be there either.I would not have Cotto so high and Pavlik should be there but it's all my opinion,which doesn't count for squat lol. I'm ultra surprised you have Shane and Kessler there though! I took winky out of my list.
I think Kessler losing is truly about how good Calzaghe is, and that Kessler deserves a top ten spot more than Pavlik because if they fought he would give Pavlik an absolute lesson. Also Shane ko'ed Vargas, beat Collazo(who gave Hatton the fight of his career) by a large margin, then fought a very close fight with an undefeated Cotto. Vazquez switch with Marquez then put Marquez in Kessler's spot, but they've both lost plenty of times, and by ko at that so I don't see why they deserve to be placed higher than great fighters like Kessler and Mosley.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
As for Winky Wright, I think he got robbed against Hopkins, I don't think he won the fight, but it was really really close, like Barrera-JMM, I feel that Winky has never been given enough credit by the judges because of his style. However, Winky was blocking most of Bernard's punches, and he was getting some good work done on the inside, along with landing that jab as the fight got later. If he moves down to middleweight again I would like his chances against Pavlik, along with anyone else he could fight.
It's all about opinions and although I don't agree with your list,you make valid points,so have a CC on me. Your opinion matters just as much as mine.
CC back at you. I would love to see your list, and Wacko's.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I think Calzaghe and Sturm have good jabs.
I don't like making these lists but I'll give it a shot.
PBF
Pacman
Calzaghe
JMM
B-Hop
Cotto
Pavlik
Wright
Calderon (I think he deservs to be on this list by now)
Vazquez
Honorary mention: Hatton, Klitchko, Baby Bull Diaz (I expect him to be on this list by the end of next year).
1: Hatton
2: Calzaghe
3: Haye
4: Enzo Mac
5: Witter
6: Woods
7: Rees
8: Arthur
9: Kahn
10: Mayweather
honorable mentions: winky, pac, b-hop, marquez
I'll do a list but not in order.
Wladimir Klistchko
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Rafael Marquez
Miguel Cotto
Kelly Pavlik
Winky Wright
Bernard Hopkins
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Jermain Taylor When He Uses It.
When Jermain Taylor uses what? This is a pure p4p list not jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Whoops i thought this was the jab thread my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Is that a joke? Seriously. Have you taken your Prozac today? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
Dude are you insane, he has Floyd there, right where he belongs, one spot below Amir Kahn... Duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I had to edit my post after I saw where Floyd was right after Khan. Before I posted I saw Khan and didn't bother to look at #10, lol. Of course, Khan is more exciting than Floyd as Khan likes to play naughty in traffic intersections.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Calzaghe
Marquez
Hopkins
Vazquez
Cotto
Hatton
Kelly Pavlik
Rafa Marquez
I think those are the names that must be there. I don't think Winky deserves to be there anymore.Neither Kessler.
I suck at doing P4P lists i hate doing it but.
1 Mayweather
2 Pacquiao
3 Hopkins
4 Calzaghe
5 JMM
6 Cotto
7 Vasquez
8 Hatton
9 Rafa Marquez
10 Pavlik
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Calzaghe
4. JM Marquez
5. Hopkins
6. Cotto
7. Vazquez
8. Hatton
9. R Marquez
10. Wright
I still want to see more of Kelly Pavlik before he makes the top 10. Calderon is knocking on the door. Hatton can't be removed from the list whilst he's still winning fights although I expect to be removing him from my top 10 in three weeks time.
I understand the point you made about Pavlik last time but i still feel he deserves to be at 10 Wright hasn't had a good win since Tito back in 2005.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
He beat Ike Quartey pretty thoroughly, and he beat Taylor by a margin, just got robbed... He should undefeated since his Vazquez fight.
up until B-Hop.
Quartey had no buisness at Middleweight he was blown up Welterweight the size difference between Winky and Quartey was ridiculous everyone thought Wright would win for good reason and it doesn't matter if you think Winky won or lost vs Taylor it was still a draw i just don't think he has done that much lately to deserve top 10 he may of gave both Taylor and Hopkins good arguement's but he didn't win and like i said the last good win Winky had was vs Tito i don't really consider his victory over 36 year old blown up Welterweight Quartey that good of a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
And he lost to Vargas to yea sure it was close but it was Vargas for the win for me.
1PBF
2Pacman
3Calzaghe
4JMM
5Cotto
6Hopkins
7Hatton
8Vasquaz
9Marquaz
10Pavlik
This list are hard because how do we judge them how far back do we look just to ask.