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Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
My last ventin on this topic guys, once and for all you are not the same physically at 36-37 as you are when your 27 its not even close, cotto matched mosle yin times in speed and guys cotto is no where near as fast as a young shane. Im not bashing cotto he did what hes supposed to do but please stop saying shane wasnt better at 27 cmon be real.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
My last ventin on this topic guys, once and for all you are not the same physically at 36-37 as you are when your 27 its not even close, cotto matched mosle yin times in speed and guys cotto is no where near as fast as a young shane. Im not bashing cotto he did what hes supposed to do but please stop saying shane wasnt better at 27 cmon be real.
Can you please direct me to who said that Shane wasn't better at 27.
I'm a huge Cotto fan but really want to see who made that statement as you say.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Tell that theory to BHOP. He was pretty good at 37, probably better than he was at 27. Same with Joe C, he is better now at 36 than he was at 26......
U may lose some speed but u gain loads of experience.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by eagle
Tell that theory to BHOP. He was pretty good at 37, probably better than he was at 27. Same with Joe C, he is better now at 36 than he was at 26......
U may lose some speed but u gain loads of experience.
Very good point eagle, well said.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
taeth heres one bu there are numerous others i have to find stating that mosley was smaller didnt hit as hard, not much faster etc...
What I don't agree with is that a younger Mosley would have done way better against Cotto... I think thats bs. Mosley was better in his prime, but not as much as many of you think. Mosley is a still a good fighter, and I think that this version of him would stack up pretty well against other versions of MOsley in terms of speed and power, and he has become a more skilled boxer along the way. I think Cotto gives any version of Mosley a great fight.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Tell that theory to BHOP. He was pretty good at 37, probably better than he was at 27. Same with Joe C, he is better now at 36 than he was at 26......
U may lose some speed but u gain loads of experience.
very rare but..... none of those guys rely on speed.... and hopkins against a young fast fighter who he cant counter would lose, look at jones he still has good speed (not freaky speed) his legs are shot, his reflexes are not close to what they were, experienc eis great but id be willing to bet hopkins peaked at 32-34 and hes a bigger man smaller men dont have as long careers, george foreman another expmaple, his skills were not what he was when he was 27 but he was more calm in there and he had power the last thing to leave and eventually he got lucky but not before lsing and awful lot
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
Tell that theory to BHOP. He was pretty good at 37, probably better than he was at 27. Same with Joe C, he is better now at 36 than he was at 26......
U may lose some speed but u gain loads of experience.
very rare but..... none of those guys rely on speed.... and hopkins against a young fast fighter who he cant counter would lose, look at jones he still has good speed (not freaky speed) his legs are shot, his reflexes are not close to what they were, experienc eis great but id be willing to bet hopkins peaked at 32-34 and hes a bigger man smaller men dont have as long careers, george foreman another expmaple, his skills were not what he was when he was 27 but he was more calm in there and he had power the last thing to leave and eventually he got lucky but not before lsing and awful lot
Joe C doesnt rely on speed? Have u actually wathced Calzaghe fight, his main weapon is his speed.....
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Joe C doesnt rely on speed? Have u actually wathced Calzaghe fight, his main weapon is his speed...
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Mosely was a lightweight in his "prime", hell yeah he was faster then. One of the fastest fighter ever IMO, that was then, this is now. I really hope that someone isnt using that but in his prime shit.....please shut the fuck up with that shit. Nobody forced Shane to keep fighting, everyone gets old and gets losses. Deal with it and quit making excuses. Shane isnt saying oh if I was 24 I woulda kicked his ass..he's got class.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
Joe C doesnt rely on speed? Have u actually wathced Calzaghe fight, his main weapon is his speed...
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Good comeback there. Really showed your immense boxing knowledge.....
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Neither am i as he shoudnt cotto looked good and did what a good champion does what pissed me off is many of the guys ont his forum judge a fighter byt the end of his career ignorant comments such as a few for example, tyson got koed by danny williams and kevin mcbride how good was he? Holyfield got knocked out by james tony a middle weight it goes on and on.... cotto would have destroyed misley in his youth worse. While I think the latter is just the opposite i would respect your decision if you had said it would be a much tougher fight for hi, put it to bed...
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
Neither am i as he shoudnt cotto looked good and did what a good champion does what pissed me off is many of the guys ont his forum judge a fighter byt the end of his career ignorant comments such as a few for example, tyson got koed by danny williams and kevin mcbride how good was he? Holyfield got knocked out by james tony a middle weight it goes on and on.... cotto would have destroyed misley in his youth worse. While I think the latter is just the opposite i would respect your decision if you had said it would be a much tougher fight for hi, put it to bed...
You are the one that said Joe C doesnt rely on speed. After an ignorant comment like that why shoulds anyone listen to you?
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Good comeback there. Really showed your immense boxing knowledge.....
if thats your defintion of handpseed i cant help you,, heres the truth and it hurts calzaghe is a horrendous champion he fights like an amteur has the slap speed pitty pat grabage he looks like hes fighting as an amateur, the guys hes beat are b level fighters, he sucks, ricky hatton i love the guy but he comes over here with his 40 and o record and basically loses to collazo??? Collazo???? The guys from overseas need style adjustments like klitchko has done...
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
Good comeback there. Really showed your immense boxing knowledge.....
You know what forget it, heres the truth and it hurts calzaghe is a horrendous champion he fights like an amteur has the slap speed pitty pat grabage he looks like hes fighting as an amateur, the guys hes beat are b level fighters, he sucks, ricky hatton i love the guy but he comes over here with his 40 and o record and basically loses to collazo??? Collazo???? The guys from overseas need style adjustments like klitchko has done...
HAHAHAHAHA im no great Calzaghe fan but to say he is a horrendous champion is ridiculous. Kessler is a great fighter with almost perfect technique and Joe beat him. U really need to think about what u are saying cos its just rubbish.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
are you from the uk???????? Your gonna take offense to this then, guys from over seas have that particular style which does not work well against a seasoned guy trained in the us. its the type of style they figh there, lennox lewis was horrendous in his fight against frank bruno beacuse of it, lewis had all the tools but bad technique you see how much he improved when he came here, has nothing to do with americans are better europeans are better its styles that work well in europe not here. its like for example disputing that ju jitsu is not neccesary to compete in mma you cant compete without it
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
are you from the uk????????
No and why does it matter?
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Oh, then I guess I agree with you , speculating that Mosely would have given him a tougher fight at lightweight, but Cotto was never lightweight. He lost that lightweight speed when he moved up and thats what would have got him the edge. If you thought he looked slow last weekend you gotta see lightweight Shane.
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
Some of the uk guys get so defensive when you say anything about there boxing styles, klitchko another good example he uses more angles now deosnt throw that straight 1-2, klitchko for example or lennox pre emanuel steward against a prime mike tyson would be suicide that straight up 1-2 tyson would get insid ein no time with hus upper body movement, so let me say this if clazaghe trained with some trainers more so in the us you may see his real potential as a fighter as is now he cant beat hopkins
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by pacdog
Joe C doesnt rely on speed? Have u actually wathced Calzaghe fight, his main weapon is his speed...
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Good comeback there. Really showed your immense boxing knowledge.....
No doubt, that was way too much info he came back at you with. Scary stuff ::**
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Re: Cotto macthed mosleys speed at times your not the same at 37 put it to rest
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Originally Posted by pacdog
Some of the uk guys get so defensive when you say anything about there boxing styles, klitchko another good example he uses more angles now deosnt throw that straight 1-2, klitchko for example or lennox pre emanuel steward against a prime mike tyson would be suicide that straight up 1-2 tyson would get insid ein no time with hus upper body movement, so let me say this if clazaghe trained with some trainers more so in the us you may see his real potential as a fighter as is now he cant beat hopkins
PAc u ok my brother, U been drinking or something. I have seen some of your post seem incoherent, Take care of yourself
