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1 Willie Pep
2 Sandy Saddler
3 Lew Tendler
4 Salvador Sanchez
5 Davey Moore
6 Kid Chocolate
7 Young Corbett II
8 Jose Legra
9 Vicente Saldivar
10 Ray Famechon
I know almost nothing compared to alot of people so i just made a list i would like people to teach me something so teach me please.
After Pep and Saddler to let everyone know i really do not know shit after that so i not to informed on all those names below.
Is the list made up of those who mainly fought at feather or anyone who ever fought at that weight?
My list includes those who atleast won a title at 126.
1 Salvador Sanchez
2 Wille Pep
3 Eder Joffre
4 Alexis Arguello
5 Sandy Saddler
6 Azumah Nelson
7 Jeff Fenech
8 Vicente Saldivar
9 Erik Morales
10 Manny Pacquiao
Honorable mention
Marco Antonio Barrera
Davey Moore
Prince Naseem Hamed
Juan Manuel Marquez
Never seen a person put anyone over Willie Pep before but i do not know much about the guy you put.
ICB is that you??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Mr140 wether you and ICB are by far the posters who post most alike or you and ICB are the same person.... ???
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No ice is form England or something i am for Cali we are different in opinions on a lot of things.
Sanchez beat other greats such as Wilfredo Gomez and Azumah Nelson, and had 11 title defences all before the age of 23 when he unfortunately died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
He also beat other good fighters in Danny Lopez, Ruben Castillo, and Juan La Porte.
For example i think Micheal Spinks beats RJJ and ice will disagree with me all day and night. Then i think Hagler can beat Rjj and we will disagree all night look at the predictions we still do not see eye to eye. Come to think about we pretty much do not see the same on RJJ and Duran vs PBF.
Have any fights that i should see of his eagle just to ask?
Also how did we die i always here he died but what caused his death just to ask.
And do you think he could beat Pep and Saddler i mean they were great fighters.
No im not Mr140 and i don't think we post alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
See different person there you go Cut me what is your list ice.
Hey Cutme give me the list arent you the expert on the featherweights. Or is that wacko any how i like to see your list Cut and who you think Would Win Sanchez vs Pep or Saddler because i do not no to much about that fighter i like to see what you think because all i know is that Sanchez died young and had some good wins.
I don't really like doing top 10 to be honest because my mind changes everytime and i keep fiddling with my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
toss up between pep and sanchez for me
I've come to my senses that in order for me to rate Pep & Saddler I need to have seen more then just 4 fights. At that I've only see 1 complete fight as the rest we're Highlights. With that being said here goes:
1. Sanchez
2. Nelson
3. Saldivar
4. Ramos
5. Alexis
6. Moore
7. Pedroza
8. JMM
9. Pacquiao
10. Hamed
I'd also like to point out that Pedroza is ALWAYS overlooked. :(
I watch alot more Pep and Saddler i was watching some fo there fights and know alot about them more so then most featherweights so you make a good point Cut and thank you for your list.
Curious to know which fights you've seen and how you got a hold of them. If you want you can send me PM. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I bought some of them and got some fights off espn classics i look but right now i am at school.
The thing about Saddler that people do not realize is that he had only less then 20 Amature fights and most of his 16 loses were at the beginng of his career. He was jsut coming into prime when he fought Pep and he could of had a even better record if not for the car accident that cause eye damage he probly could of beat Pep win record. 144 wins and he still had a lot more good fights not mention that he was never stopped in 162 fights and 103 kos ain't to bad either i love Saddler was a true warrior and think people tend to over look him maybe just me.
More then anything as I've said before is the lack of footage on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I read your other reply and I'm curious also if the fights you've seen are complete? I say this because I've talked to a handful of people and for the most part they all say it's really difficult to get a hold of full complete fights of Pep, Saddler and many other fighters who are considered great.
When i get home i will look at all the stuff i have on him and send it to you once i learn how i am not very computer smart so be give me a bit of time and i wll send you what i a got but i am still at school.
No worries I wasn't looking to get his stuff to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I was more curious then anything since I had been told that it was really hard to get a hold of his fights.
Look around enough you find stuff reading is not bad either not the same but good way to fill in blanks.
I know trust me I do a lot of reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I have so many damn boxing books and magazines pretty soon I'm gonna need a extra room in my house to store them. :)
With reading like anything else you gotta look at the source and also where they got their info. from.
Like when I was at the WBHoF and I met Allen Rosenfeld who lived with Charley Burley and I had a chance to go thru the book he wrote on Burley. I mean he said a lot of things you hear about Burley are true but also a lot of things that are said a re stretched out at times.
So like they say you gotta take everything with a little pinch of salt.
I mean just look at Marciano and that whole ordeal about him loosing a fight when he fought under another name.
No matter how much you read now you'll never know the truth.
To me the farthest back I go is 50's after that it get's even more shady and more unclear of what really went on. In the end I guess it's all about how you view it and if you want to believe what you read or not.
Yea you got a good point seeing it is more helpful but some times you got to listen to the people that were there and what the wrote down.
I am no boxing historian... seems to me James Leija deserves a mention. The lad pissed fire at featherweight
Never heard of that guy you have any info on him dude and if so post it.
Short but sweet stay at Featherweight. The Dorsey fight is one of the most gruesome things I've seen in boxing. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
IMO he falls short of top 10 all time but def. deserves a mention.