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I wonder about the difference...
I consider Tarvers knockout over RJJ or Rahman knocking out Lewis a lucky punch...
However Tuas knockout over Ruiz or Brewster knocking out Golota a perfect shot...
But you can easily switch that I guess...
Whats your opinion ?!? And some more examples would be great...
Of course people are going to argue Judah/Tzsyu.
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Good one haven't thought of that one... :coolclick:
I would say perfect shot...
Julian Jackson vs Herol Graham
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Haven't seen this one...probably should have...
But I don't know who won and if it was lucky or perfect...
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Wow you are fast... :coolclick:
Well...thats hard to decide a bit lucky and a bit perfect...
"Luck is when preparation & opportunity meet"Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss
With that being it's easy to say it was a lucky shot but you gotta keep in mind these guys train weeks and prepare themselves for whatever may come their way. Some say luck others say it was a perfect shot. I guess it's all up to that person and what basis he uses to determine whether it was luck or not.
Heres some other shots:
JCC vs. MTaylor I
Monzon vs. Nino I
Foreman vs. Moorer
Holmes vs. Weaver
Weaver vs. Tate
Byrd vs. Ike
McClellan vs. Jackson I & II
Razor Ruddock vs Michael Dokes
James Toney vs Charles Williams
CC back. Don't know if it was luck or perfect; but the dance afterwards was perfect. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss
What now eaten some books have you...?!? ;D I'm just joking...you are very wise... Again just joking...Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
BIG :coolclick: for old Mick...
But please people say what you think... lucky or perfect don't post just the fights...
Lol... Dancing with the Stars...gets a whole new meaning...Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
CC#137 JohnnyGirlBoy...Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss
Yeah I read a lot, mostly almanacs, boxing books and or bios on boxers.
No worries your cool Johnny no need to apologize to me I can take a joke. ;)
Tarver over RJJ - Lucky
Johnson over RJJ - Perfect
JCC vs. MTaylor I - Perfect
Monzon vs. Nino I - Perfect
Foreman vs. Moorer - Perfect
Holmes vs. Weaver - Lucky
Weaver vs. Tate - Lucky
Byrd vs. Ike - Not sure
McClellan vs. Jackson I & II - Perfect
Mercer/Morrison.......................................... ..... :-\
Was it luck or perfection that every punch landed at the end? ;D
Shavers vs Ellis = Perfect
Monzon vs Nino = Perfect
Jones vs Kelly = Perfect
Marciano vs Walcott = Lucky
Robinson vs Fullmer = Perfect
Rahman vs Lewis = Lucky
Benn vs Logan = Lucky
Holmes vs Weaver = How was that lucky Mick ?? Holmes was in bit of trouble but he was still way ahead on points and set that uppercut up perfectly.
Weaver vs Tate = Lucky
Foster vs Tiger = Perfect
Hopkins vs Tito = Perfect
McCallum vs Curry = Perfect
Nunn vs Sumbu = Perfect
Jackson vs Graham = Lucky
They were Perfect....all 10 or 20 lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Tommy almost Landed a few Lucky Ones himself.....While he was shadow boxing on his stool.
Two of the most perfect left hooks i have seen were both against Ali by Cooper and Frazier and he got up from both! Some might say Tarver was lucky but the shot was perfect as was Rahman's, the Tszyu shot on Judah was text book perfect against southpaws.
Watch this left hook Third man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bwJSvNQPaY
Hearns shot to Duran:perfect
Walcott uppercut to Charles:50/50?? ;D
Ice: How was Marciano's shot to Walcott lucky? Looked perfectly set up to me. Just curious :)
Yep, that just made no.1...thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
You just beat me to that. Looked like Rocky set it up perfectly with that little feint...Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Pavlik when that straight right put the zzz's on Zertuche was pretty perfect IMO.
Hatton's low blow to Kostya was PERFECT!! ;D
Again it all depends on how you view it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Holmes might have been ahead but Weaver was giving Holmes fits throughout the whole fight let's not forget Weaver almost had Holmes.
I just think the punch was lucky.
Oddly enough I don't think this was a lucky shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Marcianos career relied on SusyQ most of his fights finished with that punch.
Lets take a look at it again Mick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEm1XZFPKd8
Penalosa vs Gonzalez = Perfect
Oliver McCall Vs. Lennox Lewis-Lucky
Tim Witherspoon vs. Andres Ecklund-Perfect
Junior Jones Vs. Richie Evatt-Lucky
James Toney Vs. Michael Nunn-Perfect w/a pinch of luck
Michael Carbajal Vs.Humberto Gonzalez-Perfect
Jorge Castro Vs. John D.Jackson-Lucky
Jeff Harding Vs. Dennis Andries 3-Lucky
Aaron Davis vs.Mark Breland-Perfect
Reggie Johnson Vs. william Guthrie-Perfect
Rocky marciano Vs. Jersey Joe walcott-Perfect
Mike Weaver Vs. John Tate-Lucky
Kennedy Mckinney Vs. welcome Ncita Perfect
Tomas Molinares Vs.Marlon starling-Lucky.and Illegal
Robbie Pedan Vs. Nate Cambell 1-Perfect
Jake Lamotta vs. Laurent Dauthhuile-Lucky
I've seen it hundreds of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
It get's luckier everytime.
Actually i think Holmes was luring Weaver to the corner you can see the concentration in Holmes eyes.
If it was luck, Holmes certainly did his best to increase the odds. He threw a boat load of uppercuts before that one!
Holmes was throwing wildly and was allover the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
You can see by the way his punches miss widely.
I just see it as lucky cause he threw like 100 uppercuts in that round he was bound to get lucky.
That's just my point that Holmes started going punch crazy and was going uppercut happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myk_Myk
He was gonna land a punch sooner or later.
Lewis Vs. Rahman 2--Perfect
Terrance Alli Vs. Charles Murray Lucky
Kevin Kelly Vs. Recardo Rivera-Lucky
Terry Norris Vs. Luis Santana 1-Very Unlucky
That same uppercut in the Weaver fight was the one he was setting Tyson up for shame his arm got caught in the ropes though :(Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Freitas vs. Barrios - Perfect
Alexis vs. Olivares - Perfect
Zamora vs. Uchiyama - Perfect
Pintor vs. Owen - Sadly Perfect
Andy vs. Daniels - Perfect
Nelson vs. Cowdel - Perfect
Gatti vs. Ruelas - Lucky
Patterson vs. Ingerman II - Perfect
Brock vs. Lawrence - Perfect
RJJ vs. Hill rib-breaking perfect
ODH vs Gatti perfect
I try to think of more lucky ones,but no luck so far... ;D
Junior Jones right hand vs MAB in first fight = Perfect
Sprott vs. Audley - Lucky
Gomez vs. Hill - Lucky
Shane vs. Gomez - Perfect
Eubank vs. Dos Santos - Picture Perfect :camera:
Lockridge vs. Mayweather - Perfect
Jefferson vs. Harris - Lucky
Ricardo vs. Lin, Ohashi, Hirano - Perfect (truth be told I think Lopez was perfect overall)
Douglas vs. Tyson - Perfect
Mayorga vs. Forrest I - Lucky
Marquez vs. Austin - Lucky
Pernell vs. Diosbelys - Lucky (the 1st punch not the 10 that followed)
CC Indeed ICE.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Imo Jones could have been something special If not for the brittle chin.
I agree i really liked Junior Jones boxing style :coolclick: back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins