I believe Mayweather will be the first to beat and at the same time stop Ricky Hatton I think Mayweather cuts Hatton to pieces probably dropping him twice to a stoppage on cuts around round 6 or 7. ;) ;D 8)
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I believe Mayweather will be the first to beat and at the same time stop Ricky Hatton I think Mayweather cuts Hatton to pieces probably dropping him twice to a stoppage on cuts around round 6 or 7. ;) ;D 8)
Your NOT Welcome back Mike. ;D
I thought you we're serving a 1 day sentence? They let you out early on good behavior? :D
Anyway as for your prediction I don't think you've ever been more wrong then prediciting this.
PBF hasn't stopped an opponent since he fought the blown up Sharmba. I think PBF beats Hatton but I don't think he'll stop him.
If Zab couldn't stop crystal glass chin Zab then I just don't see how he'll stop Hatton.
Well thats an opinion....
However i have to argue that Hatton's vulnearability to cuts seems to be greatly reduced following the remedial operation following the Tszyu fight. Granted he was cut up badly against Maussa but that was largely due to elbows and Maussa's noggin hittin the hitman.
It is always a possability in a fight, an increased possability in a Ricky Hatton fight, but i don't see it happening. I believe Floyd will be gunning for a stoppage this time round as Ricky does not enjoy the advantage in size that Baldomir and DLH had over Mayweather. However it may be this lust for blood which (i hope) gets Floyd caught.
I think Mayweathers accurate punching will cut Hatton up and if Magee can drop him Mayweather can has Mayweather ever been down as a pro? i dont think he has
Yes he took a count against...was it Castillo or Chavez...Chavez i think, same fight in which he broke his hand.
Magee caught Rick flush for a legitimate knockdowen but i don't think Ricky was hurt.
Typical boxing4real/starr kind of post, out dated and irrelevant. And yes Mayweather has been down, he took a knee cos his hand was hurting.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
At welter, Mayweather has not got the power to stop elite guys. ALso, If mayweather's camp know what they are doing, they will make sure Floyd doesn't engage in close, banging action so he wouldn't get in the postition to do this anyway. Mayweather will win a wide ud in my opinion but he will not be able to knock Hatton out. Instaed he will saty outside, jabbing Hatton consistently and then throwing flashy comb's when Hatton goes, tries to go to the body.
Mayweather doesn't jab tho, he uses the straight right as his lead punch. Its rare he uses the jab since moving up
He used to jab a lot at LW as we saw in maximum effect against Corrales, but in my opinion the jab would only set Ricky up for his "aggresive counterpunching" as Graham depicts it.
but past fights indicate that Mayweather can jab if he needs too. I can't see Hatton being able to use a counter-punching style here as Mayweather won't be in one place long enough for Hatton to do this. You are correct that Mayweather does use the straight jab as his lead punch but Hatton's camp will prepare for that. i belive that the best strategy for Floyd is to use the jab. As you siad it worked against Corrales who is a pressure fighter like Hatton.
Well if i were in the mayweather camp (which i would prefer only to the option of chewing off my own genitals.) i would have Floyd preparing for the lunging lead left hook, the right uppercut inside and the left hook low.
If i was in the Hatton corner id have him prepare for mayweather by utilising a right straight and jab of his own alongside a RIGHt hook, not because it would be suprising but i feel the inpenetrable Mayweather shell may be delicate on the left side.
I know your wrong. I have no idea...absolutely no idea how one guy can bash Calzaghe and Hatton so much yet have "Britain's got talent in Junior Witter!!!" as his signiture.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
I can only assume you think the opposite of reality. ;D
C'mon dude, tell me whats good about Witter and whats not about Hatton & Calzaghe?
I will say this much Hatton is better than Calzaghe at least he goes to the states and now he is fighting the P4P number 1 Calzaghe has'nt even fought the elite names
Exactly and he caught Zab LOTS of times flush on the chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
That was against Carlos Hernandez. But since he was never hit, it's hard to even consider that a knock down.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Exactly. Mayweather took a knee on his own accord from turning his hand. Never been down from a punch. of course if you count his glove hitting the mat against Zab which the Ref missed. But it dosent officially count :hide: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Calzaghe has beat the elite fighters at SMW, now your saying he ain't fought any 'elite names'. Fucking hell will it ever end???? REALLY?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Agreed this is silly. I doubted Calzaghe until the Kessler fight. Granted, Kessler isn't elite, but Calzaghe completely outclassed him -- and at this point I'd favor Calzaghe over anyone at or around his weight, including the one guy who's "elite" (B-Hop). I don't know how you put him outside the p4p top 5 at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Ok, back to the topic.
Although I feel Mayweather will use more savvy & boxing skills to win a wide decision, I would not be surprised if Floyd picked Hatton apart & stopped him with a counter shot!
By elite i mean a younger Hopkins,Jones junior if Clinton Woods could get a fight with Roy Jones Calzaghe could but never did if he fights Hopkins he will be 43 when they fight the Kessler fight was a great win.
Hatton looks impressive punching Billy in that body belt but is it that impressive its just like attacking the punchbag am i wrong???
When was the last time Floyd truly stopped anyone???? Gatti???
Ricky is going the distance whether he wins or not, I hope to God Floyd Mayweather gets massacred
Lets not forget Collazo had Hatton almost out of it
That argument has been done to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
1. Tricky Southpaw
2. 5 weeks training so Hatton was overweight
3. everyone has an off night
4. He won the fight.
Hatton either wide points defeat or gets stopped on cuts either way Mayweather will not be beaten by Hatton ;) ;D 8)
I still find it hard to figure why there are people who like Mayweather.....I don't even think Floyd likes himself...if you asked him and he was honest I don't think he likes himself......he's an arrogant little shitQuote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Arrogant but god is he good. ;)
....he's more arrogant than good which is really what irks me because he is so goodQuote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Don't worry man it's gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I'm off the Everton v Sunderland game now so see you guys laterrrr. ;D
......you can watch Everton lose anytime man!
Fucking hell, I am almost suicidal from that result!Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I think it will be a tight match and a great match but i think Hatton will be the man on top
funny to see some many prunes on here saying gayweather is gonna whup hatton...we will all be pissing our pants laughin at you after he's gone down like a bitch in the same manner as castillo...your boy hits like a girl, he was lucky to get the nod against de la hoya and he was far from his best..do you think hatton is slow and one dimensional? think again, hatton will stop him in or around round 8, could even be before...calzaghe is a better p4p fighter than that load mouthed ballet dancing gimp...
I am not sure who will win this but I think this will be a SD. I think it will be close enough that the judges will see different things from their position. Also if Floyd stays on the ropes as much as he did against Oscar then i think that is totally the wrong tactics.
Contrary to what a lot of people are saying I think this will be a close fight and am leaning towards Hatton with my heart but PBF with my head.
Roger Mayweather has obviously taken to many hits to the head the way he spouts on and its obviously affected his nephew.
I think Hatton has proved you do not need to be a loud mouthed smack talker to sell tickets.
My little rant over I am going back to obscurity now.
There is a good chance FMJ stops Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
To be fair, Mayweather is a 135er fighting at 147/154. It is unreasonable to expect him to stop Baldomir or Delahoya.
Delahoya fought Trinidad, Mosley twice, Vargas, Sturm, Quartey, Mayorga and Hopkins. In those 90+ rounds with very strong punchers, only Hopkins was able to stop him at middleweight, and that was on a bodyshot. Both Oscar and Baldomir are big men who both have terrific chins.
By contrast, Ricky Hatton is a JWW. And Hatton was down vs Magee and badly hurt vs Collazo. Neither are concussive punchers.
Here is Mayweather's record vs natural JWW's:
Bruseles: 2 knockdowns, TKO win
Gatti: knockdown, brutal TKO win
Corley: 2 knockdowns, wide decision.
Mitchell*: 2 knockdowns, TKO win.
I would say FMJ's power record vs 140ers is pretty darn respectable. And Floyd is a stronger fighter now than he was at 140. Hatton would be making a mistake if his plan is to try and walk through Mayweather's fire. RH should be appropriately defensive.
gatti and mitchell came up from 130-135 so they arnt natrual 140, by contrast hatton fought collazo who came down from 150-155 that is a huge difference, that is why his punches where "concussive".... i guarnatee you a 150 natrual collazo hits harder than a 140 natrual mayweather at 147Quote:
Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
mayweather koing an old-overweight gatti and other 140 top 10 is completely different than the 140 ring champ hatton in his prime....
hatton is on a much much higher level.... there is no way mayweather ko's hatton ... Floyd might win but but the only way he could win by ko would be cuts and i think there is a better chance of mayweather being ko'd...
I respectfully disagree. I think that Hatton has yet to take the number of punches he will see on 12/8. But we'll just watch and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
can the haters come up with another reason to hate calzaghe...Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
he is a top 10 P4P on everyone's list, anyone who thinks calzaghe or hatton is less respectable than witter is an idiot....
i hate name calling but that is just simply idiotic to think calzaghe and hatton dont deserve the credit that comes along with being a top 10 P4P it shows you care more about your emotions than the facts, and it shows your blind ignorance......
not to mention it gets old hearing over and over and over from the same 3 or 4 posters that calzaghe hands are fragile, hatton struggled against collazo, calzaghe hasnt fought anyone, hatton got knocked down by magee,
WELL SOON ENOUGH HATTON WILL BEAT MAYWEATHER AND CALZAGHE WILL B*TCH SLAP B-HOP IN AMERICA, AND THEN ALL THE HATERS WILL FINALLY GET SHUT UP FOR GOOD....
Joe hasnt fought elite names???... you dont know SH@t.....
just who do you think will beat Joe at 168-175??? he smokes dawson, b-hop, kessler, bute, tarver.. who should he fight???
just admit that you hate joe and its not just because of boxing
their are countless Floyd haters but they dont say he sucks because he only fights one contender than a weak champ X 5 and that why he is a 5 weight champ... they simply admit that he is a mouthy, d*ck head, a$$hole that belittles people with his money, and language.... if you dont like hatton or joe because of their personalties than say it, but dont act like you dislike them because they cant box good because it makes you look like either hater or an idiot...
mayweather hit zab all night and didnt ko him, and hatton has alot better chin...Quote:
Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
have you seen the kosta-hatton fight... and kosta-zab fight... and may-zab..
if hatton took kosta punches he should walk through mayweathers..
its crazy to me people uses the collazo fight to describe hatton but the only fighter that both of them fought, castillo, gets no mention... obviously castillo was younger and fresher against Floyd but it is still a fact that hatton destroyed the man that gave floyd his hardest fight.... but i dont think that means much.... but i am surprised it isnt brought up more..
The castillo triangle would get more (any?) credibility if the gap in time was small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
But it was five years. Andin that intervening time, Castillo got KO'd in one of history's most brutal fights, had severe weight problems, and looked pretty crappy in the two preceding fights to Hatton.
Those are just facts as well.
I can beat up Jake LaMotta today. That would not impress you. At a certain point, you have to acknowledge that a fighter isn't the same.
I think its crazy to think Hatton will just walk through Floyds punches. He may not have earnie shavers power, but name one of his 38 opponents hwo have just walked thru his punches? He throws a stiff straight right, and fast counters that are hard to push forward thru. If HAtton thinks he can just walk thru PBF's punches he will be commting boxing suicide and will be stopped late on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
As for Castillo, PBF fought him at his best weight(135) and at his prime. And Floyd completely outboxed a prime Castillo in the rematch. Hatton fought JLC when he was obviously past his best and what many would call shot, he had obviously not trained hard(could hardly make weight) and fought with none of his former heart cos he wasnt getting paid fuck all.
If u bring up the Castillo fight i'll bring up the collazo v hatton fight, which many thought Collazo won. He is the closest thing in terms of styles(altho southpaw) that Ricky has faced and Hitman had all sorts of trouble. Remember Collazo is only half the fighter Floyd is, and doesnt hit as hard yet did Hatton walk thru his punches?
But in reality past opponents wont mean shit when the fight starts, just who is the better fighter on the night.