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1Sugar Ray Leonard
2Tommy Hearns
3Roberto Duran
4Pernell Whitaker
5Roy Jones
6Marvin Hagler
7Sugar Shane Mosley
8Bernard Hopkins
9Winkey Wright
10Floyde Mayweather
11Oscar Del hoya
12Joe Calzaghe
13.Evader Holyfeild
14.Wilfred Benitez
15.James Tony
16.Felix Trinidad
17.Manny Pacquiao
18.Mick McCallum
19.Michael Spinks
20.Lennox Lewis
Just a list i made you can make more if you like i probable forgot some people on the list.
Not a bad list. I think u have most of the names there, think maybe they could be in a different order tho.
ODLH Calzaghe and Toney are too high.
Can u have Holyfield 7 spots in front of Lewis?
No Sanchez? No Arguello? No Pryor? No Nelson?
Not a bad effort tho.
No way Leonard is number one. And where the fuck are Terry Norris and Ricardo Lopez at? Any p4p list that doesn't include Lopez is garbage
Good call on Lopez. I like too many others forget him at times. Stupid really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
WEll help me out then VD i have trouble thinking of everyone from the past 30 years who ranks Higher then Leonard. Also egal i put Holfield ahead because he started his career at 175 and form there became a champion in CW and HW so i put him ahead of Lennox maybe i am wrong hard after 10. And the only people i consider the same with Leonard are Duran, Jones, Whitaker and Hearns the others i see behind him.
I'll but Leonard behind Jones, Hagler, Whitaker, Hopkins and Lopez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Hagler never moved up in weight and Roy well i guess you could say he is up there but SRL,RJJ,Duran and Witaker are at the top. And if you look at there competition how many championships they won in different division and how dominate there were it is very close.
I'll put Leonard behind Arguello, Mayweather and Toney as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
How do you rank them ahead i find it hard to put Mayweather ahead in accomplishments and Tony as for Arguello i did not follow his career enough to make a call on him to be honest with you give me the reason you think they are ahead of Leonard and i will gladly read and them respond to you.
im sorry 140 , but i think that is a bad list
Well if is a bad list then tell me a better one then Headson i like to see who you think should be up there.
Mine would be something like this:
1. Duran
2a. Whitaker
2b. Leonard
4. Jones
5. Hagler
6. Chavez
Tough to rank Mayweather because he's still only 30 and we have no idea yet how his career ends. If he were to fight a couple more times over the next year or so against good competition, then I'd have to put him above Jones.
Thank for the list Sweet Pea i see mine is off compared to yours but we have the same names cc for the list.
Fuck i just notice i included Lewis but Forgot Holmes and also there is Chavez i forgot along with Morlas and Barrera list harder then i thought.
good list
this is how i might see it..
1.Duran
2.Leonard
3.Whitaker
4.Hagler
5.Lopez
6.Chavez
7.Hearns
8.RJJ
9.Lewis
10.Benitez
Well the Thing with Duran is that i said in the 40 years i would put him ahead of Leonard but i said 30 i just Feel Leonard was better. Also cc mike for putting your list up there and i like yours it different but i can see how you made it thanks again for the list.
Also Pryor was a good fighter but he never got the names to put him up with the rest of the guys kinda like Tyzu and yea i spelled it wrong probably.
Not in the same manner as VD, but yeah! I agree No 'Finito' No list IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
McCallum P4P Top 20?
After ten Cut i just start naming ones that come to mind that i have seen alot of you can make a list and show me the right one if you want.
My list would look something like this.
Duran
Pernell
Lopez
Alexis
SRL
RJJ
Chavez
Hearns
Hagler
Lewis
No one could EVER show you the right list, lists are like ass holes everybody has one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
It's all on your judgement.
Well i looked both men up and did some looking at those records and who they beat and i can not see anyone ranking over SRL in the past 30 years Pernell did not do enough and not even Duran but over 40 years i put him ahead of SRL besides that i guess i look at rating different then others do. But cc Cut you have a lot of about boxing so you know what your talking about even if it is something i do not see.
Dam Hearns must be good he makes it on your list twice.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
*Fixed. :)
I probably rank Hearns higher then most i mean the man won titles form WW to CW and still was knocking people out amazes me.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Ready now.
No worries mate, just giving u a bit of cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Of come on Cut i liked it better when you had him twice everyone forgets about Hearns twin but he was great fighter to.
my bad if you took it wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
im not that god on list but
1. whitaker
2. duran
3. lopez
4. srl
5. holmes
6. hagler
7. hearns
8. arguello
9. rj
10. chavez
Pound for Pound - Prime 4 Prime i feel Hagler beats the S*** outta everyone on anyones list.
I dunno why? I just cant get past that notion ???
Nvm misread the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Ok so you still have a problem with me putting him number 1 in 30 years i know you thinkinbg Duran but if it were 40 years i would put him.
I agree that Leonard shouldn't be #1, but I wouldn't penalize him too much for Norris and Camacho. Leonard was an old, old fighter by then. I wouldn't penalize him much for those fights, just like I wouldn't like penalize Roberto Duran for losing to Vinny Pazienza or Pernell Whitaker losing to Felix Trinidad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Nvm misread the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Take no notice of my post i thought he said 20 years my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
I know sweet pea that why i change the post and i said now that it is 30 would you still fault me for putting ray first. And i know you are going to say Duran but if i said 40 years i would put Duran ahead of leonard but not the past 30 though.
I wouldn't put Ray #1. If you see my list, I had Ray tied for 2nd with Pernell, with Duran #1. Leonard was an all-time great fighter, I just wouldn't put him #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Where is Wilfredo Gomez, Salvador Sanchez, Khaosai Galaxy, Ricardo Lopez, Larry Holmes, Julio Cesar Chavez, Azumah Nelson, Salvador Sanchez, and Yes Leonard is still too high your missing alot of names.
Top 20 not in any order.
Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez
Larry Holmes
Wilfredo Gomez
Salvador Sanchez
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr
Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran
Thomas Hearns
Ricardo Lopez
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De La Hoya
Azumah Nelson
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Erik Morales
These names come to me first.
Yea i missed Barrea and Morlas and Holmes i mention them earlier and JCC just to let you know i just have not made my list yet.
Well look the reason i put Leonard just ahead of duran is for this reason look at how well Duran did form 1977 on and Leonard form 1977 and on. I think Leonard did better then Duran did in that time period now if you were to say Duran career form 1968 on he have a better record then Leonard did. But if we are talking 30 years like i said look at who they beat and who beat them Leonard is ahead of Duran if you look at how well they did.