Who has fought the best competition?

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11-30-2007, 12:01 AM
eagle

Who has fought the best competition?

It occured to me there are a few fighters out there that have some terrific resumes.

I think the obvious one is ODLH, his opponent list reads like a who's who of boxing of the last 15 years.
Mayweather Mayorga Hopkins Mosely Vargas Trinidad Gatti Quartey Chavez Camacho Whitaker Leija
and there are more top contenders Sturm Paez Dorsey Castillejo Carr Campas

That is an amazing list.
Is it the best of current era? Is it the best of all time?
Has anyone else fought so many great fighters in a 43 fight career?
The only pne i can think of that is close of current fighters is Holyfield.
Tyson, Lewis, Toney, Bowe, Foreman, Moorer, Holmes, Douglas, Mercer, Byrd, Qawi, Rahman, Ruiz, Ibragimov.

Who in history has had better lists than these guys?
11-30-2007, 12:22 AM
Kel

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

I can't think of any fighters that have fought so many top guys than Oscar. I always say it but if you fight the best their is your losses don't mean shit.
11-30-2007, 12:24 AM
No Contest

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

With winning records? If average records count, just look at Emmanuel Augustus, he has fought everyone and their cousin. Mayweather's record is damn good as well, whoever think he hasnt fought top notch oppnents is crazy, and I dont want to start another debate on that subject :beatdeadhorse:
11-30-2007, 12:33 AM
eagle

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by No Contest

With winning records? If average records count, just look at Emmanuel Augustus, he has fought everyone and their cousin. Mayweather's record is damn good as well, whoever think he hasnt fought top notch oppnents is crazy, and I dont want to start another debate on that subject :beatdeadhorse:

Yeah dont have to be winning records. Augustus has fought some great names.
What about Louis Monaco?
Won 16 loss 35
But has fought
V Klitschko Douglas Mcneeley Berbick Oquendo Johnson Grant Chambers Mcbride Dokes Brewster Chambers Whitaker, and dare i say it Butterbean.......
11-30-2007, 12:40 AM
LEGION

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Jerry Quarry didn't do too bad in the who's who list himsel. Ali twice, Frazier twice, Patterson twice, Shavers, Lyle, Chuvalo, Norton and some others.
11-30-2007, 12:48 AM
Preme

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

most good journey men
11-30-2007, 12:53 AM
eagle

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....
11-30-2007, 01:14 AM
DaxxKahn

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account
11-30-2007, 03:08 AM
Bookkeeper

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Judah has fought Cotto, Mayweather, Kosta, Spinks 2 and is close to fighting Oscar, that's a great list

Oba Carr fought Tito, Oscar, Quartey, Mosley
Vargas fought Tito, Oscar, Mosley 2, Quartey, Wright, Mayorga

Many list can be named that are just as good as Oscar's
11-30-2007, 03:39 AM
ICB

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Marion Wilson
Muhammad Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson
Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Roberto Duran
Evander Holyfield
Ken Norton
Bobby Chacon
Arturo Gatti
Azumah Nelson
Hector Camacho
Fernando Vargas
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Jerry Quarry
Earnie Shavers
George Foreman

Just to name a few.
11-30-2007, 03:43 AM
Spicoli

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/
11-30-2007, 03:53 AM
Spicoli

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Its easy start spouting "Anthony Ivory,Simmie Black and Reggie strickland... Its one thing to say you were in the same ring with the big ones but To actually "Compete" and keep it a real competition is another.
11-30-2007, 04:04 AM
Mr140

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Wow no one has mention Sugar Ray Leonard his list of good people Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez, Noris, Comacho, Mayweather, Kulale, Green, Ranzany and Lalonde some of those names are great and good contenders i think it is a good looking resume pluse he had less fights then Oscar. Not to mention he had a winning record with most of his big fights and avenged his losses until he fought till he was to old to.
11-30-2007, 04:10 AM
fin

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Holyfield,De la hoya,tito,Pac-man
11-30-2007, 04:28 AM
Wacko3205

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Poor ole' Bernard.

He can't do shit right.

On top of having a HOF career in the bag of 54 fights, 48 wins & 32 ko's with 13 in the first round, working his title for 20 defences, & fighting names like Johnson, Roy Jones jr, Eastman, De La Hoya, Taylor, Joppy, Trinidad, Wright, Holmes, & Tarver...he can't even make it onto one of our lists.

Oh the humanity.
11-30-2007, 04:48 AM
DaxxKahn

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/

I agree about the fight itself but the question was resume not great fights :-\.....At the time Mateen was a top guy in the division...thats why I said these are hard to do because there are guys that were on fire in one point of thier career and considered top caliber opp then at other points were scrubs.....When Montel faced Toney he was one of the best in the division
11-30-2007, 05:07 AM
Spicoli

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/

I agree about the fight itself but the question was resume not great fights :-\.....At the time Mateen was a top guy in the division...thats why I said these are hard to do because there are guys that were on fire in one point of thier career and considered top caliber opp then at other points were scrubs.....When Montel faced Toney he was one of the best in the division

Cooome On Daxx? ::**M-16 was Empty.If his going 2-4 In last six Means anything its not Him being on fire but a habit of eating gloves.
Im not being funny Cheif but did you mean Montell griffin and NOT Ernest Mateen??? with Respect. :-\
11-30-2007, 05:14 AM
DaxxKahn

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/

I agree about the fight itself but the question was resume not great fights :-\.....At the time Mateen was a top guy in the division...thats why I said these are hard to do because there are guys that were on fire in one point of thier career and considered top caliber opp then at other points were scrubs.....When Montel faced Toney he was one of the best in the division

Cooome On Daxx? ::**M-16 was Empty.If his going 2-4 In last six Means anything its not Him being on fire but a habit of eating gloves.
Im not being funny Cheif but did you mean Montell griffin and NOT Ernest Mateen??? with Respect. :-\

Spicoli have you ever seen Mateen's fights?....if not for management problems he would be one of this era's best....
11-30-2007, 05:50 AM
Spicoli

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/

I agree about the fight itself but the question was resume not great fights :-\.....At the time Mateen was a top guy in the division...thats why I said these are hard to do because there are guys that were on fire in one point of thier career and considered top caliber opp then at other points were scrubs.....When Montel faced Toney he was one of the best in the division

Cooome On Daxx? ::**M-16 was Empty.If his going 2-4 In last six Means anything its not Him being on fire but a habit of eating gloves.
Im not being funny Cheif but did you mean Montell griffin and NOT Ernest Mateen??? with Respect. :-\

Spicoli have you ever seen Mateen's fights?....if not for management problems he would be one of this era's best....

Ok Daxx. Name A fighter without Management Problems at one point in career?
I'm about to Pm You dude Because I really think Your Playing....With Respect,, ???
The question was "who fought the best competition".......Toney was sighted and very accurately......But among Toney's best "competition", Mateen was not AMONG them at ALL.
...He was well on the other side Vs. Toney.
I held a Job At Taco Bell once but why would I put that on my resume?
Wacked Out On a regular basis
11-30-2007, 05:54 AM
eagle

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

I cannot believe u both forgot 'SECOND TO'Nunn. Michael had just beat Barkley Kalambay Curry and Starling when Toney fought and KO'd him. Nun was arguably top 3 pound for pound at that time.....
11-30-2007, 06:05 AM
Spicoli

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by eagle

I cannot believe u both forgot 'SECOND TO'Nunn. Michael had just beat Barkley Kalambay Curry and Starling when Toney fought and KO'd him. Nun was arguably top 3 pound for pound at that time.....

:o........ :-X :-X CC Eagle.
Sweet L.Hook....Michael "Second to Toneys Hook" Nunn.
11-30-2007, 06:08 AM
eagle

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by eagle

I cannot believe u both forgot 'SECOND TO'Nunn. Michael had just beat Barkley Kalambay Curry and Starling when Toney fought and KO'd him. Nun was arguably top 3 pound for pound at that time.....

:o........ :-X :-X CC Eagle.
Sweet L.Hook....Michael "Second to Toneys Hook" Nunn.

I gotta admire Nunn for fighting so many good guys in a row. That just doesnt seem to happen anymore.
11-30-2007, 06:24 AM
DaxxKahn

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/

I agree about the fight itself but the question was resume not great fights :-\.....At the time Mateen was a top guy in the division...thats why I said these are hard to do because there are guys that were on fire in one point of thier career and considered top caliber opp then at other points were scrubs.....When Montel faced Toney he was one of the best in the division

Cooome On Daxx? ::**M-16 was Empty.If his going 2-4 In last six Means anything its not Him being on fire but a habit of eating gloves.
Im not being funny Cheif but did you mean Montell griffin and NOT Ernest Mateen??? with Respect. :-\

Spicoli have you ever seen Mateen's fights?....if not for management problems he would be one of this era's best....

Ok Daxx. Name A fighter without Management Problems at one point in career?
I'm about to Pm You dude Because I really think Your Playing....With Respect,, ???
The question was "who fought the best competition".......Toney was sighted and very accurately......But among Toney's best "competition", Mateen was not AMONG them at ALL.
...He was well on the other side Vs. Toney.
I held a Job At Taco Bell once but why would I put that on my resume?
Wacked Out On a regular basis

:lolhaha: :lolhaha: :lolhaha: :lol: :lol:.....CC Spicoli Im sorry man...I am just messin with ya....The more I mentioned Mateens name the more words you started writing in Caps ROFL......it was like I could actuallly see your eyes popping out in front of your comp with disbelief on what you were reading......

Sorry mate was just funny.....

In all seriousness that is why you have to take the time in a persons career...when Toney fought Mateen he was a decent fighter...and at LHW during that time There was Jones and the rest so there were no real standouts....Montell when Toney faced him was highly thought of as a future star...he was undefeated and making some noise....

When I was trying to remember all of Toneys fights and opponents (he has had almost 80 of them)...I had to stop at boxrec and was probably lookinf at somethig else and just threw mateen in not even really thinking about it
11-30-2007, 06:59 AM
Spicoli

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by eagle

Ali himself?
Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Quarry, Frazier, Foster, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers....

Ali may have the best HW resume of all time

There are a lot of guys with great resumes...hard to pick since you would have to factor in when they fought how packed were their divisions etc....

some of the more recent top resumes are

Marco Antonio Barrera- Jones, Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Ayala, Pacquiao, Juarez, Naz, Sanchez

Mosley- Molina, leija, Holiday, Johnson, DLH, Diaz, Taylor, Forrest, Wright, Vargas, Collazo, Cotto

Pernell Whitiker- DLH, Nelson, Ramirez, Paez, McGuirt, Chavez, Rivera, Hurtado

Lennox Lewis- Klitschko, Tucker, Ruddock, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Golota, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Botha, Akinwande, Tua

James Toney- Jones, Jirov, Butler, Williams, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, McCallum, Thadzi, Mateen

There are a ton of guys with great resumes...I would be here all night trying to sort out who gets the nod trying to figure out at what point in their careers guys beat certain guys etc to actually get an accurate account

MATEEN.....?Much Respect Daxx but no way on that one.I'll Take a Barkley,A.Washington or Lol M.Griffin.Mateen's "fight" with Toney was Disgusting.
Top notch call On Lewis Though,Fought some biggies.
Whitaker as well..Tremendous Competition...even his "Grade b's or C''s were desent,
Jones/Brazier/J.Montes/Vasquez (grade a)/Pendleton/S.Cardona/W.Rivera/

I agree about the fight itself but the question was resume not great fights :-\.....At the time Mateen was a top guy in the division...thats why I said these are hard to do because there are guys that were on fire in one point of thier career and considered top caliber opp then at other points were scrubs.....When Montel faced Toney he was one of the best in the division

Cooome On Daxx? ::**M-16 was Empty.If his going 2-4 In last six Means anything its not Him being on fire but a habit of eating gloves.
Im not being funny Cheif but did you mean Montell griffin and NOT Ernest Mateen??? with Respect. :-\

Spicoli have you ever seen Mateen's fights?....if not for management problems he would be one of this era's best....

Ok Daxx. Name A fighter without Management Problems at one point in career?
I'm about to Pm You dude Because I really think Your Playing....With Respect,, ???
The question was "who fought the best competition".......Toney was sighted and very accurately......But among Toney's best "competition", Mateen was not AMONG them at ALL.
...He was well on the other side Vs. Toney.
I held a Job At Taco Bell once but why would I put that on my resume?
Wacked Out On a regular basis

:lolhaha: :lolhaha: :lolhaha: :lol: :lol:.....CC Spicoli Im sorry man...I am just messin with ya....The more I mentioned Mateens name the more words you started writing in Caps ROFL......it was like I could actuallly see your eyes popping out in front of your comp with disbelief on what you were reading......

Sorry mate was just funny.....

In all seriousness that is why you have to take the time in a persons career...when Toney fought Mateen he was a decent fighter...and at LHW during that time There was Jones and the rest so there were no real standouts....Montell when Toney faced him was highly thought of as a future star...he was undefeated and making some noise....

When I was trying to remember all of Toneys fights and opponents (he has had almost 80 of them)...I had to stop at boxrec and was probably lookinf at somethig else and just threw mateen in not even really thinking about it

:looroll: :lolhaha: :lol:

Glad I could Be of amusment....I like's me caps Daxx.Mateen was a second Ran!

I stillthink You have em' mixed up. ;D ;)
11-30-2007, 08:17 AM
Althugz

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

Winky Wright and Jermaine Taylor have decent resumes also.
11-30-2007, 08:57 AM
Hulk

Re: Who has fought the best competition?

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Poor ole' Bernard.

He can't do shit right.

On top of having a HOF career in the bag of 54 fights, 48 wins & 32 ko's with 13 in the first round, working his title for 20 defences, & fighting names like Johnson, Roy Jones jr, Eastman, De La Hoya, Taylor, Joppy, Trinidad, Wright, Holmes, & Tarver...he can't even make it onto one of our lists.

Oh the humanity.

And don't forget that Bernard fought a prime, dangerous, Antwun Echols twice, stopping him in their second bout, which was one of the funniest fights of all time. Also, I think Ricardo Mayorga deserves a mention. He's fought:
Andrew "Six Heads" Lewis
Vernon Forrest twice
Felix Trinidad
Cory Spinks*
Oscar Delahoya
Diabolys Hurtado
Fernando Vargas

*Spinks is a fraud, coward ass bitch, who lost nearly every round in his encounter with Mayorga, and was dropped at least twice, yet somehow made a deal with the devil and got the fukin gift decision to end all gift decisions.