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I think most people would pick the Hitman but i dont know,for me its a toss up,both huge punchers,both hadnt got great chins but tito's was better..
I love Hearns and think he ranks higher on the all time great list but i think Tito would get off the floor to stop him in a thriller...
Hearns was a beast at Welterweight i see him stopping Tito inside of 5.
It could go either way,it would defo be one of the most exciting fights .....,i just feel tito would do it..
Yeah, a while back, I think I started a thread like this also. Its a great match, but you gotta go with Hearns. He had equal or greater power to Tito, AND was a so much better boxer. Not to mention his height and reach, he could just stay on the outside and pick Tito apart and do the same to Trinidad as he did to the shorter Duran.
If Hearns boxes then he wins but i get the feeling he would be dragged in2 a war wit tito.....
As i said its a toss up and i think Hearns ranks higher as an all time great..
Both guys were huge punchers and both could be hurt with punches, so each guy would have a good chance of winning.
However, if they fought 10 times, I'd say Hearns wins 8 out of the 10.
Trinidad was a little of a slow starter. That would hurt him against Hearns.
Hearns TKO round 2
If Kevin Leusing could put tito on his arse against Hearns it doesnt bare thinking about. Hearns was a great Welter in the top four ever.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Just ask James Schuler waht happens when you start slow against Hearns....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=woWSl5PBVAs&feature=related
and Schuler was a pretty good fighter
prime for prime tito was very good but................................ the hitman came from an era were fighters were killers, if you weren't great we'd never hear about ya........... hitman wins by k.o in 1st 4 rounds for me
Yeah and TITO was a pussy cat  :Sarcasm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Tito @ WW had one of the Fastest left hooks with incredible Power and great timing and not to MEntion Tito in the smaina area one of the Best there has been.
I say all this the way people rule him out so easily, like if they where judging him of his fights at 160
trinidad wins by early tko.
Herans Ko round 5, i think thered be a knockdown either side before his tho.
I said it in another thread, if Hearns boxes he would make it an easy night. But if Hearns warrior mentality got the better of him, as it often did, then the result would be one of the firecest shootouts in boxing history. Both guys at WW had lightning quick punches that packed pure TNT. It would've been an explosive match that would match Hagler - Hearns and probably go a few more rounds and have several KDs. I tend to lean towards Trinidad in a slugfest just because nobody could bang with Tito during his reign. But the trueth is Tito never faced Hearns. It would be a toss-up if Hearns decided to bang with Tito.
Tito took too long to get started and he got hit too much i would be surprised if he made it past 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
I have to whole heartedly agree with you on that...IMO it would be Trinidads biggest downfall in the fight......and Hearns hit damn hard with all his shots atWW not just the straight right....the right was just plain murderous
I'd give Gatti a better shot at beating Mayweather in a rematch than Tito beating Hearns. Tito's a great fighter, no doubt. But Hearns was GREAT. There's not a WW out there today who could beat prime Hearns at that weight, IMO...Mayweather included. But that's the great thing about hypothetical matchups - we'll never know ;D
Hearns was a guy that could be hurt, but he was hurt by fighters of a better pedigree in my opinion. He fought as far North as cruiser (a division in which he didn get ko'd!)
Hearns was an incredibly accurate puncher who started fights at pace (boxing or brawling he always left the blocks quick) His height coupled with that straight right hand was an incredibly efficient set up at welter and it would see him sweep aside many welters including trinidad
Hearns was significantly more powerful than Titio at welterweight, possesing a more imposing physique and reach. He was also a superior boxer, even to the point of being able to out box SRL. Tito in contrast was a one-trick pony, unable toc hange styles when needed...thus he was exposed by ODLH, and Hopkins followed that blueprint to its conclusion. But Tito was a well-schooled conventional forward fighter with great power. Hearn's chin would be the X factor.
People forget just how imposing Hearns was at welterweight up until he met Leonard. Since Leonard was the golden boy, people assume he was favored in that fight. He was not. Boxing experts were picking Hearns and the Vegas betting odds turned to Hearns as the fight approached. Due to his power, he had an aura of invincibility that only great punchers (like Tyson) take on until they are...well...beaten. At that point, his frail chin was not known, and he was so feared that people accused Leonard of dodging him.
This pretext makes SRL's victory all the more impressive.
Hearns speed, power and reach would be the perfect foil to beat Trinidad. Hearns would be all wrong for Tito and stop him in the 4th.
I can see Tito hurting Hearns and then Hearns coming back to KTFO Tito. BOTH were legends at 147. Ridiculously powerful,good jabs,I just feel Hearns was the more powerful,faster fighter. One thing though,Tito had Round 2 knockdown syndrome,except,if Hearns put him down in Round 2,there would be NO WAY he would survive.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Good call El Gamo. I said round 4 which seems early for a fighter of Tito's ability but he always had that dodgy round where he switched off and got caught - no one could afford to do that against Hearns.
I'm quite fond of Trinidad and I do agree with the oucome Gamo, but I actually don't see Trinidad being too succesful at all.
I feel in Trinidad wright (past his prime i know) Tito was kept off balance and unco-ordinated by Winky's jab all night. Tommy had a fantastic long jab that i feel would have done the same i.e. putting Tito off balance and lowering his punch output consideerably.
In short Hearns would use his reach and skills to prevent engaging Trinida keep him at arms reach and set him up for the right cross.
So i essence I agree with all you said apart from Trindad having his own successes :(
no one would KO Tito @ WW. It would be a hard fight but that would be it. They will both respect each other.
Tito's fall went to test waters out of his league(160) and even so he did pretty good.
Tommy is one of the great but at WW so was TITO.
ANd Tell me how would Tommy would have done against a prime ODLH?
Puya i never questioned Tito's greatness, but to say that he couldn't be stopped at Welter is not only inaccurate it's biased and just a result of wishful thinking. A great fighter no doubt but certainly not infallible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
OH another thing calling Tito chinny it's also inaccurate. Yes people drop him because they caught him out of balance the only one who got him good was B-Hop and Campas.
IN the B-Hop fight he hit Tito with a lot of hard Punches and Tito kept coming forward and if he was that chinny explain how he got up so fast or why he was never wobble. I dare you to shoe me a Video of Tito been wobble by anyone at WW
Sorry but I will never settle when people write TITO off in the WW div even if it was against Hearns
I dare you to show me a post written by me where i call Tito chinny!
Unrelated question; May i ask you, how do you rate Fernando Vargas as a puncher?
Good, but certainly not devastating? He wobbled Tito a number of times. However I feel that this is not as a result of Tito's lack of durability but moreso a result of his limited defense.
The same limited defense which would be exploited by the 6'2'' Tommy Hearns who would find Tito's skull with that Right cross. The right cross that felled Duran, Cuevas and countless others. It is irrelevant that Tito had a decent to good chin. It is an inevitable scientific equation. The human skull suffers the impact of a punch of that force enough times and the brain willorder the body into recovery mode. KO.
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Originally Posted by Puya
Tommy was not just any welterweight...his power at WW was damn freightning...not 147lb man should be able to hit that hard....his speed was also way above the average welterweights....plus even though he is known for power Tommy was a master boxer....I just don't see Tito beating him....
There is no doubt that in a one to one match up. Hearns could beat any WW in any era. Yes that includes Robbinson, Armstrong and all those other greats. He would've beaten Leonard if it had been a 12 round fight.
But you also have to remember that Tito at WW was of the same pedigree (despite what one of the posters said). He, like Hearns, was a monster at that weight. His punching power at the time was at the very least comparable to Hearns. Not to mention he never lossed a fight at WW so it is hard to go against him. The only man to give him a close fight fought in a way that Hearns would never fight so we can't use that against Tito.
Yes, Hearns would most likely beat Tito. Everything that Tito had, Hearns had more of it. He was bigger and even more powerfull. But anybody that sais Hearns would just blow through Trinidad like a knife through hot butter is just fooling themselves. Tito would make it a fight all through to the end. And if there is one thing that we can all agree on is that Tito had much better stamina than Hearns, which means the further it went, the more likely Tito would win.
As I say about any fighter. If you plan on beating Tito. You better bring your A game and you better stick to it for as long as the fight lasts. One slip up and he will make you pay.
Hey you where the only one answering the post but not all comments where directed at you. I respect your opinion as I know you respect mine it's all coolQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
nither I but as easy people here call it I don't believeQuote:
Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
That's all I'm trying to say but this guys used the correct wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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They both had great power at WW...but Hearns has to be p4p one of the greatest punchers in the history of the sport. As far as all around skill...Tommy was a much better boxer. He had a tremendous jab. His problem was that he could easily be lulled into a brawl and abandon using his great all around skill. Both of them had iffy chins...but i just have a hard time betting against Hearns at Welterweight.
I think with Tito going down frequently in his fights. I would see a quick K.O. for Hearns. Withing 3 rounds.Anothe rgood question would be if Oscar fought Hearns I believe Oscar would probably stop him late like Ray Leonard did.
IT's funny how much people rate Tito Low after his fight with B-hop at 160
I think the comment's are fair bro, Tito was down a lot in the early rounds, and if Hearns put him on the canvas he wouldn't get up. I respect Tito he is great fighter and took a hell of a beating against Hopkins while being way above his weight class. But imo Hearns is a little too much for Tito but thats nothing to be ashamed of because Hearns is too much for most Welterweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
Tito as well was too much for most Welterweights with mad power too. So you see at this time both fighters had their legacy at 147 and is written in the history books as the baddest MOFOS of the WW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
So for me it would have been a classic fight without rating any of them low. It's a shame how people forgets TITO's legacy at 147 just because he got outclassed by no other than B-Hop at 160.
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Originally Posted by Puya
Has nothing to do with Tito losing to Hopkins...More or less has to do with Hearns just being that good....
I reate them equally the same this is the reason why most boxing fans think of this matchupQuote:
Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn