Re: How good is Mayweather??
If you look at the post fight interviews, Floyd really doesn't even look like he's been in a fight. Not a mark on him. Pretty impressive considering many here thought his body would take punishment like nothing he'd seen before. The guy just out Hattoned Ricky Hatton. He's the best, hands down, anyone who says different is just a hater with issues O0
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Not good enough to beat Cotto but PBF is smart enough to retire before he can prove me wrong. Did I say too smart? Maybe I should have said too big of a coward. There, that's better.
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Cotto is good, but I don't know if he's that good. He certainly doesn't have the names on his record that Mayweather has.
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Call me crazy, but I seriously doubt Bob Arum wants to put Miguel Cotto in the ring with Floyd Mayweather. Arum, like all promoters, is a snake, but he's smart, Cotto is his meal ticket, and nothing damages a fighters marketability more than a loss. It's funny people saying Floyd is ducking certain fighters, when I can guarantee you Arum will not try his absolute hardest to make this fight happen, as all signs point to Cotto most likely losing. He'll almost certainly try to angle a bout with the Williams-Crinton winner before sending his fighter up against Floyd, and of course, he'll try to spin it as if Floyd is ducking his fighter.
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lol@all the Cotto posts now. I don't think Cotto would even find Floyd in the ring, he'll stalk and stalk and get picked apart. Another easy win for PBF...but of course, some jackass will say...now you have to fight so and so Floyd, then so and so, and then so and so and before you know it he's older, slower, and gets knocked out by some lucky punch.
Sorry, Mayweather > Cotto.
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You have to favor PBF heavily over Cotto, but it was Hatton Floyd KTFO tonight, not Cotto. Cotto has actual skill, has beaten real WW's and packs more of a punch. To put it in perspective, can you imagine the slaughter Mosley-Hatton would be?
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Everybody bet on mayweather next fight and maybe we can jinx him.lol
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top 5 defensive fighter of all time, top 10 most skillful fighter of all time. 100 percent imo he really is a pleasure to watch, i have always said he was unbeatable at Superfeatherweight, now hopefully there won't be so much damn hating.
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Watching this fight made me appreciate what ODLH did against Mayweather, as at first I thought the swarming style was the way to beat Floyd. Obviously after watching the fight today, Floyd was able to handle the pressure well,and put on an impressive display. The fight with Oscar is probably the closest that anyone will get to beating Floyd, as the rest of the welters are simply not on the mans level. Though I throughly dislike the style of fighter that Floyd is, as i find almost every one of his fights to be boring, he showed combinations and power today that he hadn't shown in a long time. Congrats to him, but he's still a long ways from being "the best ever" as he stupidly comments
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top 5 defensive fighter of all time, top 10 most skillful fighter of all time. 100 percent imo he really is a pleasure to watch, i have always said he was unbeatable at Superfeatherweight, now hopefully there won't be so much damn hating.
sounds about right mate. He probly creeping into my top 20 p4p of all time if not top 15! Honestly i have nothing but admiration for being able to stop Hatton which no one has obviously come close to before. Not bad for someone who always runs away i spose!
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I spend most of my time dealing with boxing history and in my view this concept of best pound for pound fighter is pointless. The phrase was coined to describe one man, Sugar Ray Robinson. I think it is virtually impossible to compare fighters from different eras, however until someone is 135-1 or 220-1 counting his amateur career, before losing his title, and wins the title back in the 137th pro fight I think the phrase should be reserved for what it was intended a description of the great Sugar Ray Robinson.
Like so many facets of our society between 24 hour news and 24 hour sports and 3 year presidential campaigns the media creates a huge vacuum to fill and they fill it by overusing and diluting all praise or disdain. Someone or something is always the greatest of all time, the best pound for pound, the fastest, strongest, the worst, the most tragic, the most talented until the next one comes along.
Here's to the truly remarkable career of Sugar Ray Robinson. :)
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Mayweather is'nt good he is GREAT he is P4P#1 for this reason i hope he retires he has nothing left to prove.
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Mayweather is'nt good he is GREAT he is P4P#1 for this reason i hope he retires he has nothing left to prove.
We are all boxing fans before we are boxers fans. Don't tell me you don't like to see PBF vs COTTO
Just to make sure.
Is that you Floyd?
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I would like to see it but then it would be now he should fight williams or Mosely or Cintron and so on so why not bow out now.
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Not good enough to beat Cotto but PBF is smart enough to retire before he can prove me wrong. Did I say too smart? Maybe I should have said too big of a coward. There, that's better.
Danny, I generally get a kick out of your posts, but you don't need to sabatoge every Floyd-related thread with this crap.
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We're lucky to have had him, nuff said.
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You're only good as your competition...I will likely get a few sad clicks for this but I'll say this anyways.
Is Mayweather one of the best p4p boxers? Sure he is...but there is a disclaimer that goes with that...being his competition.
His greatest win to date was NOT Hatton as that was a 'gimme' IMO. I've stated before that Mayweather would run through Hatton with ease. All you had to do was watch the Hatton fight against the feather fisted Collazo (Hatton was rocked badly in that fight) to see that. IMO, his greatest win was against an undefeated Corralles (RIP) and Castillo...BOTH who are not HOF imo. The rest of his competition, while great...cannot be compared to the fighters that SRL fought ie. Duran, Leonard, Hagler or the fighters that Ali fought ie. Liston, Foreman, Frazier.
Can anyone say that Mayweather has fought the caliber of competition of the legends mentioned above? A resounding NO IMO.
This is obviously not Mayweather's fault but I still beleive that he has not fought the toughest guys in his division being Cotto and in after a few more fights Williams should be up to par. Both of these fighters would cement Mayweather's legacy as beating the best in his division because as of right now, you can't say that he has.
Cotto vs PBF 2008 for fight of the year!
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I would like to see it but then it would be now he should fight williams or Mosely or Cintron and so on so why not bow out now.
No ::** don't think so. I guess it would be it and It will go down as the only risk that Floyd took since his rematch with Castillo and his fight with Corrales. Other than that what great risks he took?
Don't tell me Oscar please.
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top 5 defensive fighter of all time
I'd put Floyd as a Top 3 all-time defensive fighter, the other 2 being Pep and Whitaker.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
top 5 defensive fighter of all time, top 10 most skillful fighter of all time. 100 percent imo he really is a pleasure to watch, i have always said he was unbeatable at Superfeatherweight, now hopefully there won't be so much damn hating.
Mayber if he did not go out of his way to act like the P4P#1 ASS of all time he would not be bashed so much....Has nothing to do with his performance in the ring...I don't think there is a sane or at least half intelligent observer of the sport that can deny his talent....Everything else leaves much to be desired
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I would like to see it but then it would be now he should fight williams or Mosely or Cintron and so on so why not bow out now.
No ::** don't think so. I guess it would be it and It will go down as the only risk that Floyd took since his rematch with Castillo and his fight with Corrales. Other than that what great risks he took?
Don't tell me Oscar please.
Oscar yes he was a risk and Hatton was a big risk aswell
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I would like to see it but then it would be now he should fight williams or Mosely or Cintron and so on so why not bow out now.
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No ::** don't think so. I guess it would be it and It will go down as the only risk that Floyd took since his rematch with Castillo and his fight with Corrales. Other than that what great risks he took?
Don't tell me Oscar please.
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loyd took since his rematch with Castillo and his fight with Corrales. Other than that what great risks he took?
Why can't i mention Oscar De La Hoya ?? of course that was a risk Mayweather moved up to a weight class he has never fought at before so how can't that be a risk ??
Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo
Oscar De La Hoya
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou = Because of his high KO ratio it was a risk.
Ricky Hatton
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Floyd is undisputed no.1 in the sport right now. He'll probably only fight agin if a massive fight can be made, it's up to Williams and Cotto to pull their fingers out and fight each other so the winner can force Floyd's hand.
I don't think either fighter have made a serious effort to chase Floyd like Hatton did.
