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What must PBF do to gain respect?
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
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Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
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Re: What must PBF do?
For my part, Floyd to me doesn't have to do anymore to get massive respect for his career and achievements. He's a great fighter and all respect to him.
With that said, I was a little disappointed in him even fighting Hatton, and Hatton thinking he could face Floyd. Credit to Floyd for doing what he did to Hatton, as he did what I figured he would do and ko Ricky. And credit to Hatton for steping up massively. But all this time Floyd has called Hatton a wrestling bum and not worthy of his time, and there were other fighters out there that he could have fought: Margarito, Cotto, maybe even Williams, I kind of see it as a big money fight that was pretty much a gimme. It was definately good for the sport and all the publicity that boxing received, but there were tougher fights out there to finish cementing a legacy he has already made so big.
I don't think Margarito, Cotto or Williams could beat Floyd, that's not what I'm trying to imply; I just feel as far as legacy it didn't do anything to help cement it by fighting Hatton. Hell, Floyd said in 24/7 fighting Hatton wouldn't help his legacy, so it's not only me saying it. He beat up a guy he was supposed to, and somewhere near 90% of people picked Floyd to beat Hatton easy. When you go around saying for years that Hatton is basically a garbage amateur fighter, it really doesn't look good on your resume. So though if Floyd retired now I wouldn't say anything negative, I would like to see him fight a prime WW like a Cotto or Williams before he retires.
JMO
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
Anyone who don't respect floyd now are just haters, and their "respect" isn't worth the 30 seconds of your life you lose reading their biased diatribe.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by LEGION
For my part, Floyd to me doesn't have to do anymore to get massive respect for his career and achievements. He's a great fighter and all respect to him.
With that said, I was a little disappointed in him even fighting Hatton, and Hatton thinking he could face Floyd. Credit to Floyd for doing what he did to Hatton, as he did what I figured he would do and ko Ricky. And credit to Hatton for steping up massively. But all this time Floyd has called Hatton a wrestling bum and not worthy of his time, and there were other fighters out there that he could have fought: Margarito, Cotto, maybe even Williams, I kind of see it as a big money fight that was pretty much a gimme. It was definately good for the sport and all the publicity that boxing received, but there were tougher fights out there to finish cementing a legacy he has already made so big.
I don't think Margarito, Cotto or Williams could beat Floyd, that's not what I'm trying to imply; I just feel as far as legacy it didn't do anything to help cement it by fighting Hatton. Hell, Floyd said in 24/7 fighting Hatton wouldn't help his legacy, so it's not only me saying it. He beat up a guy he was supposed to, and somewhere near 90% of people picked Floyd to beat Hatton easy. When you go around saying for years that Hatton is basically a garbage amateur fighter, it really doesn't look good on your resume. So though if Floyd retired now I wouldn't say anything negative, I would like to see him fight a prime WW like a Cotto or Williams before he retires.
JMO
90% didnt pick PBF. Check Wacko's RBR 42 ppl had Hatton winning, and a lot on here were convinced he would.
Some of your comments are exactly what im talking about, acting as tho Hatton wasnt a top opponent. The man was 43-0 for fucksake, and had won titles at 140 and 147. Now cos PBf destroyed him Hatton is a overhyped B level fighter?
I guarantee the same will be said if and when FLoyd does a similiar job on Cotto or Margarito.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by LEGION
For my part, Floyd to me doesn't have to do anymore to get massive respect for his career and achievements. He's a great fighter and all respect to him.
With that said, I was a little disappointed in him even fighting Hatton, and Hatton thinking he could face Floyd. Credit to Floyd for doing what he did to Hatton, as he did what I figured he would do and ko Ricky. And credit to Hatton for steping up massively. But all this time Floyd has called Hatton a wrestling bum and not worthy of his time, and there were other fighters out there that he could have fought: Margarito, Cotto, maybe even Williams, I kind of see it as a big money fight that was pretty much a gimme. It was definately good for the sport and all the publicity that boxing received, but there were tougher fights out there to finish cementing a legacy he has already made so big.
I don't think Margarito, Cotto or Williams could beat Floyd, that's not what I'm trying to imply; I just feel as far as legacy it didn't do anything to help cement it by fighting Hatton. Hell, Floyd said in 24/7 fighting Hatton wouldn't help his legacy, so it's not only me saying it. He beat up a guy he was supposed to, and somewhere near 90% of people picked Floyd to beat Hatton easy. When you go around saying for years that Hatton is basically a garbage amateur fighter, it really doesn't look good on your resume. So though if Floyd retired now I wouldn't say anything negative, I would like to see him fight a prime WW like a Cotto or Williams before he retires.
JMO
90% didnt pick PBF. Check Wacko's RBR 42 ppl had Hatton winning, and a lot on here were convinced he would.
Some of your comments are exactly what im talking about, acting as tho Hatton wasnt a top opponent. The man was 43-0 for fucksake, and had won titles at 140 and 147. Now cos PBf destroyed him Hatton is a overhyped B level fighter?
I guarantee the same will be said if and when FLoyd does a similiar job on Cotto or Margarito.
I'm just saying before the fight most people on here picked Floyd to win, and alot picked him to win easily.
I considered him a top opponent, not just at 147, which kind of showed in his fight with Collazo, and alot of people on here considered him a weak WW. As I said, I'm not taking anything away from Floyd and what he's done. He beat Hatton very decisively, as most so called experts in boxing said he would, and that's what he's supposed to do. So I don't know why you're getting upset at me when all I said is I personally would like to see him fight a prime true WW. If he doesn't it won't change what he's already achieved, as he is HOF IMO.
And Beanflicker, if you don't want to waste 30 seconds reading my diatribe, then next time you'll know better when I post something :)
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by LEGION
For my part, Floyd to me doesn't have to do anymore to get massive respect for his career and achievements. He's a great fighter and all respect to him.
With that said, I was a little disappointed in him even fighting Hatton, and Hatton thinking he could face Floyd. Credit to Floyd for doing what he did to Hatton, as he did what I figured he would do and ko Ricky. And credit to Hatton for steping up massively. But all this time Floyd has called Hatton a wrestling bum and not worthy of his time, and there were other fighters out there that he could have fought: Margarito, Cotto, maybe even Williams, I kind of see it as a big money fight that was pretty much a gimme. It was definately good for the sport and all the publicity that boxing received, but there were tougher fights out there to finish cementing a legacy he has already made so big.
I don't think Margarito, Cotto or Williams could beat Floyd, that's not what I'm trying to imply; I just feel as far as legacy it didn't do anything to help cement it by fighting Hatton. Hell, Floyd said in 24/7 fighting Hatton wouldn't help his legacy, so it's not only me saying it. He beat up a guy he was supposed to, and somewhere near 90% of people picked Floyd to beat Hatton easy. When you go around saying for years that Hatton is basically a garbage amateur fighter, it really doesn't look good on your resume. So though if Floyd retired now I wouldn't say anything negative, I would like to see him fight a prime WW like a Cotto or Williams before he retires.
JMO
90% didnt pick PBF. Check Wacko's RBR 42 ppl had Hatton winning, and a lot on here were convinced he would.
Some of your comments are exactly what im talking about, acting as tho Hatton wasnt a top opponent. The man was 43-0 for fucksake, and had won titles at 140 and 147. Now cos PBf destroyed him Hatton is a overhyped B level fighter?
I guarantee the same will be said if and when FLoyd does a similiar job on Cotto or Margarito.
I'm just saying before the fight most people on here picked Floyd to win, and alot picked him to win easily.
I considered him a top opponent, not just at 147, which kind of showed in his fight with Collazo, and alot of people on here considered him a weak WW. As I said, I'm not taking anything away from Floyd and what he's done. He beat Hatton very decisively, as most so called experts in boxing said he would, and that's what he's supposed to do. So I don't know why you're getting upset at me when all I said is I personally would like to see him fight a prime true WW. If he doesn't it won't change what he's already achieved, as he is HOF IMO.
And Beanflicker, if you don't want to waste 30 seconds reading my diatribe, then next time you'll know better when I post something :)
The stupid thing is that Floyd isnt even a WW, he atarted at 130. 140 is probably his best weight, yet he gets put down for not fighting guys such as Williams or Margaritio who would be comfortable at 154 and above.
Supposed to beat Hatton, so it doesnt count?
When he fights Cotto he will be picked by most experts as well, so does that mean if he does win it wont count?
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
Of course it counts that he beat Hatton, and beat him bad. I know Floyd started at 130, and that is why I said if he retires right now I have nothing bad to say about him period. But he did say he is the best 147 in the world, so I would like to see him fight Cotto or someone up there more of a threat than we know Hatton was. Believe me eagle, it might seem I'm trying to degrade what he did with Hatton, but I'm not. Floyd is phenomenal, and I don't see him losing to any WW. It's just if you're going to proclaim yourself the best at 147, then go out fighting one of the more established guys that is a better WW than Hatton. Peace bro' and CC; I don't know how else to explain it :-\
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I've always respected PBFs skills but he as a person I just can't respect.
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I followed Floyd's whole career. But Floyd's had all my respect since 1998 when after beating Genaro Hernandez he took on Angel Manfredy (at the time the toughest contender out there) for his first title defense. And destroyed him in 2 rounds
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
I respect Cotto but fighting a legitimate fighter that is the top of the wieght class would be a start.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Of course it counts that he beat Hatton, and beat him bad. I know Floyd started at 130, and that is why I said if he retires right now I have nothing bad to say about him period. But he did say he is the best 147 in the world, so I would like to see him fight Cotto or someone up there more of a threat than we know Hatton was. Believe me eagle, it might seem I'm trying to degrade what he did with Hatton, but I'm not. Floyd is phenomenal, and I don't see him losing to any WW. It's just if you're going to proclaim yourself the best at 147, then go out fighting one of the more established guys that is a better WW than Hatton. Peace bro' and CC; I don't know how else to explain it :-\
Ok im kinda getting u now. I just dont like how so many ppl almost call PBF scared cos he only fought Hatton and not other WW. Im sure if it was Cotto he beat this weekend the same guys would have said he should be fighting Hatton.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
Dude, they've basically fought the exact same type of fighters ;D ;D ;D. You knock Oscar for only beating a punching bag named Mayorga but who was the punching bag Mosley beat to put him back in the spotlight ;D ;D ;D.
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
Floyd has beaten better competition than Cotto fullstop, and im a Cotto fan saying that. Cotto would not beat 154 ODLH at this point in his career.
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
I was just about to say the same thing.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Of course it counts that he beat Hatton, and beat him bad. I know Floyd started at 130, and that is why I said if he retires right now I have nothing bad to say about him period. But he did say he is the best 147 in the world, so I would like to see him fight Cotto or someone up there more of a threat than we know Hatton was. Believe me eagle, it might seem I'm trying to degrade what he did with Hatton, but I'm not. Floyd is phenomenal, and I don't see him losing to any WW. It's just if you're going to proclaim yourself the best at 147, then go out fighting one of the more established guys that is a better WW than Hatton. Peace bro' and CC; I don't know how else to explain it :-\
Ok im kinda getting u now. I just dont like how so many ppl almost call PBF scared cos he only fought Hatton and not other WW. Im sure if it was Cotto he beat this weekend the same guys would have said he should be fighting Hatton.
LOL. I'm sure there would be people saying that ;D How can people say Floyd is scared to fight anyone when he started at 130 ??? I mean really, how many fighters start out at a weight in their career and even move up one class? Calling Floyd scared is beyond silly ::**
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
(I will be back gonna post the video). I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
Floyd has beaten better competition than Cotto fullstop, and im a Cotto fan saying that. Cotto would not beat 154 ODLH at this point in his career.
Cotto already beat the guy who beat oscar twice and he beat him while he was still active. Mosley didn't just fight Vargas to get in the picture, he beat Collazo pretty convincingly I might add, and he's the one who showed us that Hatton didn't belong at ww.
I'd be very surprised if Oscar steeped up and took a fight with Cotto.
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Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
I will be back. I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
Um, didn't he say he was retiring right after the Oscar fight ??? ::** Funny how you choose when and when not to take things seriously ;D ;D
Mayweather vs. Cotto
Summer 2008
Don't really need to be a genius to figure that out ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
Floyd has beaten better competition than Cotto fullstop, and im a Cotto fan saying that. Cotto would not beat 154 ODLH at this point in his career.
Cotto already beat the guy who beat oscar twice and he beat him while he was still active. Mosley didn't just fight Vargas to get in the picture, he beat Collazo pretty convincingly I might add, and he's the one who showed us that Hatton didn't belong at ww.
I'd be very surprised if Oscar steeped up and took a fight with Cotto.
Just cos Cotto won a decision against 36 yr old Mosely that could have gone either way does it mean he can beat a prime PBF, who is arguably a better fighter than Mosely ever was.
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Originally Posted by Cotto_Is_4_Real
Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
(I will be back gonna post the video). I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
U are such a biased fanboy u have lost all respect on this forum.
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Re: What must PBF do?
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For my part, Floyd to me doesn't have to do anymore to get massive respect for his career and achievements. He's a great fighter and all respect to him.
With that said, I was a little disappointed in him even fighting Hatton, and Hatton thinking he could face Floyd. Credit to Floyd for doing what he did to Hatton, as he did what I figured he would do and ko Ricky. And credit to Hatton for steping up massively. But all this time Floyd has called Hatton a wrestling bum and not worthy of his time, and there were other fighters out there that he could have fought: Margarito, Cotto, maybe even Williams, I kind of see it as a big money fight that was pretty much a gimme. It was definately good for the sport and all the publicity that boxing received, but there were tougher fights out there to finish cementing a legacy he has already made so big.
I don't think Margarito, Cotto or Williams could beat Floyd, that's not what I'm trying to imply; I just feel as far as legacy it didn't do anything to help cement it by fighting Hatton. Hell, Floyd said in 24/7 fighting Hatton wouldn't help his legacy, so it's not only me saying it. He beat up a guy he was supposed to, and somewhere near 90% of people picked Floyd to beat Hatton easy. When you go around saying for years that Hatton is basically a garbage amateur fighter, it really doesn't look good on your resume. So though if Floyd retired now I wouldn't say anything negative, I would like to see him fight a prime WW like a Cotto or Williams before he retires.
JMO
CC'd! Good post and exactly what I've been trying to say as well. For the legacy of Floyd to be solidified he must face Cotto and or Williams. After that, there will be NO MORE questions.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
I will be back. I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
Um, didn't he say he was retiring right after the Oscar fight ??? ::** Funny how you choose when and when not to take things seriously ;D ;D
Mayweather vs. Cotto
Summer 2008
Don't really need to be a genius to figure that out ;D ;D
Boy, I hope you're right. If it does happen btw, and floyd wins, then he would have a legitimate win over a true ww in his prime and he would have beaten a fighter who actually has a chance.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
Floyd has beaten better competition than Cotto fullstop, and im a Cotto fan saying that. Cotto would not beat 154 ODLH at this point in his career.
Cotto already beat the guy who beat oscar twice and he beat him while he was still active. Mosley didn't just fight Vargas to get in the picture, he beat Collazo pretty convincingly I might add, and he's the one who showed us that Hatton didn't belong at ww.
I'd be very surprised if Oscar steeped up and took a fight with Cotto.
Just cos Cotto won a decision against 36 yr old Mosely that could have gone either way does it mean he can beat a prime PBF, who is arguably a better fighter than Mosely ever was.
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Originally Posted by Cotto_Is_4_Real
Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
(I will be back gonna post the video). I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
U are such a biased fanboy u have lost all respect on this forum.
BAISED?
These are FLOYDS WORDS.
I am not making this up.
I am going to post the video.
Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
(I will be back gonna post the video). I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Randall Bailey (best days behind him), DeMarcus Corley (had Cotto wobbling all over the place), Mohamad Abdulaev (disappointment since he turned pro), Ricardo Torres (limited slugger almost stopped Cotto), Gianluca Branco (come on now), Paul Malignaggi (no power, still went 12), Carlos Quintana (good fighter, but not elite), Oktay Urkel (unworthy challenger), Zab Judah (beat up Judah pretty good), Shane Mosley (great win over elite fighter)
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
Ok here we go, here's a list of floyds last 10 fights: Victoriano Sosa(KTFO by Cotto), Phillip N'dou(who?), DeMarcus Corley(good fighter & he stunned floyd), Henry Bruseles(who?), Arturo Gatti(washed up at the time), Sharmba Mithchell(tier 2 fighter), Zab Judah(I'll give him credit for that one), Carlos Baldomir(beat an unfocused Judah but still not near top tier guy), Oscar DeLaHoya(had 1 fight in the last three years and it was against a punching bag named Mayorga), Ricky Hatton(think Collazo)
He has not stepped up and taken a legitimate challenge for a very long time and while I wouldnt go as far as saying he isn't any good, I do have many questions that need answering.
Please post the last 10 victories of both Williams and Cotto so that as a board we can collectively laugh at you ;D ;D ;D
Are you saying floyd has fought better competition @ ww than Cotto?
Floyd has beaten better competition than Cotto fullstop, and im a Cotto fan saying that. Cotto would not beat 154 ODLH at this point in his career.
Cotto already beat the guy who beat oscar twice and he beat him while he was still active. Mosley didn't just fight Vargas to get in the picture, he beat Collazo pretty convincingly I might add, and he's the one who showed us that Hatton didn't belong at ww.
I'd be very surprised if Oscar steeped up and took a fight with Cotto.
Just cos Cotto won a decision against 36 yr old Mosely that could have gone either way does it mean he can beat a prime PBF, who is arguably a better fighter than Mosely ever was.
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Originally Posted by Cotto_Is_4_Real
Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
(I will be back gonna post the video). I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
U are such a biased fanboy u have lost all respect on this forum.
BAISED?
These are FLOYDS WORDS.
I am not making this up.
I am going to post the video.
Floyd said I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight.
Do you people know why he does not want to fight any Welter Weights? Because he would get owned. He left the sport kissing Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's @ss.
You folks want to hear it again? The video and his own words don't lie.
(I will be back gonna post the video). I thought it was great to hear him bow down to Miguel Cotto when Larry Merchant asked why don't he fight Cotto.
Of course u are biased against PBF. Thats what im saying. U nitpick everything he does. Its got to a point where its all just bullshit now and ppl have stopped listening to what u have to say.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
Well this all depends on the answer to this question .....
HOW MUCH RESPECT DOES FLOYD WANT?
If he wants to be recognized as "The Greatest Fighter of All-Time" then he has a TON of work to do at 147-154 and maybe even 160 and yeah I think he could fight there vs some smaller or slower guys.
...if he just wants to be one of the greats then he's pretty set right now but could really solidify his place in history by once and for all UNIFYING A DIVISION.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Well this all depends on the answer to this question .....
HOW MUCH RESPECT DOES FLOYD WANT?
If he wants to be recognized as "The Greatest Fighter of All-Time" then he has a TON of work to do at 147-154 and maybe even 160 and yeah I think he could fight there vs some smaller or slower guys.
...if he just wants to be one of the greats then he's pretty set right now but could really solidify his place in history by once and for all UNIFYING A DIVISION.
And if he unifies a division you'll say thats not enough he should win a MW championship.
So he does that against a lesser MW and u say he should have fought Pavlik.
So he does that and gets KTFO and u say he was overrated and not that great.
The point is he'll never impress guys like u cos u hate on him.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well this all depends on the answer to this question .....
HOW MUCH RESPECT DOES FLOYD WANT?
If he wants to be recognized as "The Greatest Fighter of All-Time" then he has a TON of work to do at 147-154 and maybe even 160 and yeah I think he could fight there vs some smaller or slower guys.
...if he just wants to be one of the greats then he's pretty set right now but could really solidify his place in history by once and for all UNIFYING A DIVISION.
I disagree 100%. He needs to do ONE more thing. He MUST beat Cotto. That's it. Leonard high tailed it out of 140 to avoid Aaron Pryor so retiring after beating Cotto and then having people say he's ducking Williams is completely hypocritical, as Leonard NEVER cleaned out a division himself. And saying he even need step foot in the middleweight division shows you obviously have designs on holding a neverending bias against Floyd, for whatever reason is beyond me.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Leonard high tailed it out of 140 to avoid Aaron Pryor
No he didn't. Leonard was never a 140 pounder to begin with. He started as a welterweight, and was a welterweight for years before Aaron Pryor became a big name at 140.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
What must PBF do to gain respect?
For crying out loud!!!!!!!! ;) to fight the top WW guy that is all. For me it was Mosley but Cotto beat Mosley so for him to fight Cotto then and I will personally dirve PBF "MOney Mayweather" wagon once he beats a real elite WW. Just that nothing more 1 moreFUCKING fight.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
Floyd is clearly the #1 PFP fighter in the sport, and is clearly the best fighter of the decade so far.
However, if he wants to consider one of the greatest fighters ever, he needs to stay active. He's in the best division in all of boxing, and therefore he has potential opponents who can enhance his legacy.
An all-time great takes on an opponent like Cotto and beats him.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well this all depends on the answer to this question .....
HOW MUCH RESPECT DOES FLOYD WANT?
If he wants to be recognized as "The Greatest Fighter of All-Time" then he has a TON of work to do at 147-154 and maybe even 160 and yeah I think he could fight there vs some smaller or slower guys.
...if he just wants to be one of the greats then he's pretty set right now but could really solidify his place in history by once and for all UNIFYING A DIVISION.
And if he unifies a division you'll say thats not enough he should win a MW championship.
So he does that against a lesser MW and u say he should have fought Pavlik.
So he does that and gets KTFO and u say he was overrated and not that great.
The point is he'll never impress guys like u cos u hate on him.
...no I am reasonable...if he wants to be "The Greatest of All-Time" he honestly has not done enough...Ray Robinson, Hank Armstrong, Willie Pep all did a lot more than Floyd and I don't only mean in terms of fights had, I mean in titles, victories, etc....sure there was only 1 title per weight class back then but that only meant they HAD to fight the best.....Floyd has options right now and if he didn't he would have had some tougher fights.
If he just wants to be "A Great" then he's already up there....if that's not enough respect for what Floyd has done then hell I don't know what to say other than too bad
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Floyd is clearly the #1 PFP fighter in the sport, and is clearly the best fighter of the decade so far.
However, if he wants to consider one of the greatest fighters ever, he needs to stay active. He's in the best division in all of boxing, and therefore he has potential opponents who can enhance his legacy.
An all-time great takes on an opponent like Cotto and beats him.
Another way to put it
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Leonard high tailed it out of 140 to avoid Aaron Pryor
No he didn't. Leonard was never a 140 pounder to begin with. He started as a welterweight, and was a welterweight for years before Aaron Pryor became a big name at 140.
Actually, you're both correct. Leonard did begin as a welterweight, but had three fights that were sanctioned to allow an overweighing of jr. lightweight, (similar to how some fights now are made at a catch weight). That being said, he ducked the SH!T out of Pryor, as Aaron was more than willing to meet him at welterweight. Proof:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/491146412...garrayleonard/
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Floyd is clearly the #1 PFP fighter in the sport, and is clearly the best fighter of the decade so far.
However, if he wants to consider one of the greatest fighters ever, he needs to stay active. He's in the best division in all of boxing, and therefore he has potential opponents who can enhance his legacy.
An all-time great takes on an opponent like Cotto and beats him.
Very well said. CC
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
He had my respect when he beat G. Hernandez.
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
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Originally Posted by eagle
I havent been on Saddo's all weekend, so when i logged on today i thought i'd be seeing threads full of respect for Floyd. But to my astonishment the majority of posts are still putting him down and making it sound as tho his win against Hatton was a nothing victory. It is sickening.
Floyd faced a 43-0 two weight champ who was backed by many on this forum to win and ko'd him spectacularly.
It used to be Hatton would destroy PBF.
Now all i here is that Cotto would destroy Floyd.
So if Floyd beats Cotto, (which im almost certain he would), who will be next?
There will be posters on here sayin Cotto was overrated, Floyd hasnt beat Williams yet.
then
Williams was just tall, Floyd hasnt beat Margarito yet.
then
Margarito was a glorified journeyman, Floyd hasnt beat Klitschko yet.
Why dont u guys give PBF some respect?
He had my respect when he beat G. Hernandez.
Is it just me or are there more PBF haters on here than ever? He demolished Hatton and ppl rate him less?
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Re: What must PBF do to gain respect?
Maybe if he didn't have questionable wins (Castillo 1, and ODLH) and did not have a big mouth. Sure, I admit he's an overall good fighter but other than that, I don't know.
That is why I like Pac. He has won against Mexican fighters and it bums me out but still, he is not talking the way Floyd does.