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"Let's enjoy the holidays and then see if we can make 147lbs, which I'm sure we can, and then take it from there," said de la Hoya.
Seems Unlikely as I doubt Hatton will fight at 147 again and Billy Graham really doesn't want him to.
There is really little point in fighting Oscar. Hatton is not cut out for 147 and Oscar really should fight someone his own size.
Hatton belongs at 140. No question.
Why would Hatton fight someone that's bigger than Mayweather at 147? Well there is the payday thing.
I'd be inclined to take a De la Hoya Fight.
Oscar would be considerably weakened by making 147 and the money would be huge.
Money talks my friend. I've said it before and you can check my posts in the Who should Oscar fight next thread. Oscar wants Hatton. Oscar wants nothing more than a big money fight he can actually win.
its a n easy night for oscar --most likely kayo within a couple rounds id love to see ricky rush in to hug and grab like he does and have dlh crack him silly with the left hook
its kinda weird to see these two fight when they show so much respect for each other and call each other ' mate ' for them to step in the ring and beat each other up... but as the thread says, its all about the money...
I was thinking that last week tbh. I'm not sure about this fight. On the one hand, if it was made for next summer, Hatton could grow into WW properly in that time. He has said that he wants the biggest fights so moving doen to 140 would go against that. Oscar at 147 would also be weakened. In many ways I want to see the fight. Hatton DLH at Wembley would be huge and I would get to go along which would be amazing. Could he win? I don't know, but it would be another mega fight and probably £10m for Hatton, I don't think he'd say no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Hatton should fight De La Hoya. I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton get knocked the fuck out again
No No No bad news
Oscar is too big
Hatton would get KO'd imo.
Hatton aint a welterweight
suppose it all comes down to whats more important to him.....money or his legacy.
continuing to fight welter weights will have a negative effect on his legacy.
He's too small. End of.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
so do you think odlh would actually come over and have it at wembley or city of manchester stadium like he has claimed he would?
If DLH still wants to fight Hatton, Hatton takes the fight and would be a fool not to. Sure, he would lose, probably by KO, but the cash you get from fighting DLH--any man would be a fool to pass it up. After that fight, go back to 140 and reel off a couple of wins and then call it a career.
Reading in between the lines of what Floyd said :
I thought Floyd was waiting for an invite into a rematch over on English soil ?
"I love you English fans", "I have always said I would love to go and fight in England"...Hint.
How about Cotto /Mayweather on netural ground?
I can see why these two want to fight each other I mean financially it's a huge windfall for both of them, probably the two biggest fanbases in boxing colliding.
However as a fight I really don't want to see this. Hatton has shown himself to be too small against a small welterwight how in the hell can he be expected to fight a large junior middlweight? ???
For Hatton I'd rather he tried to pursuade Juan Diaz to move up although I can see that there is not even one third of the money in that fight so from Ricky's own standpoint a fight with Oscar makes MUCH more sense.
For Oscar though surely he has enough money already? Why not actually try and make something of his career and challenge Vernon Forrest or Cory Spinks for a 154lb title.
If he wants to stay at 147 then I'm sure Cotto, Williams and Margarito would love to add him to their resume's and I expect Shane Mosely would be only too happy to try for a hatrick against Oscar. Those are the fights he should be taking, big fights that would actually mean something.
Hatton vs De La Hoya is about as meaningless and interesting to me as Jones Jr vs Trinidad. Neither is a boxing match that actually contributes anything to the sport in terms of titles, rankings etc. It's just basically the equivalent of an England vs France International friendly in soccer or a pre season exhibition game between the Patriots and 49'ers'.
A nice enough event but it doesn't actually have any significance at all to the rest of the boxing world.
Isn't there a chronic masturbator's forum on the internet where you might feel more at home ? A micropenis messageboard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Can't see Hatton wanting to lose two in a row. Oscar will have to find somebody else for the Cinco De Mayo gig.
Can't see this happening as Hatton is going to go back to Jnr.Welterweight. Too small to fight De La Hoya.
Maybe De La Hoya should fight someone abit bigger like Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito.
If Hatton had done better in his losing cause i would understand but 147 is not his class. I cant beleive Hoya wants this fight still. why not fight Cotto, that would also be megabucks , its just a better match up skill wise.
I wanna see ODLH fight either PW or Margarito, dont wanna see Hatton lose another fight due to overstretching himself.
DLH isn't going to fight Williams or Margarito. Those are relatively small names with a great chance of whipping Oscar's ass and basically ending his career. Cotto would be a big fight which just means more people watching Oscar lose, although that's the most logical fight for Oscar legacy wise and great for Cotto's pockets and profile.
Hatton should take it. He's got nowhere to go at 147. He has some decent fights at 140 but nothing huge. If Hatton drops down and loses to a Holt or Witter, he's done as a top fighter and he'll be viewed as a flash in the pan who upset older, better fighters than himself. If he beats them, it doesn't mean a whole lot. Oscar is big money and a chance at redemption should he somehow find a way to win. The win is unlikely but the money is for sure.
Of course he wants Hatton...His last legit win other then Mayorga a year and a half ago was in 2002 over Vargas...He was given a gift over Sturm and HE even knows it.....
So lets pick on the biggest name with the best chance of a win I can get....
Here we go why not call out Cotto?....Williams.....Cintron....Even Judah? at 147...and don't give me the money B***S**** because Oscar has more then he knows what to do with
Leave Oscar alone he has fought so many big fights he deserves a gimme once in a while god.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
WHY? Why does he need a gimme?.....he is really not a legit ring force anymore...so he is going to find guys he knows he can beat?.....Avoid the elite at his weight?...pitiful IMO
Look i mean look Floyd fought a give me and everyone praising him for this win right now.
Oscar has fought Tito, Mosley,Vargas,Sturm,Bernard,Moarga and Mayweather if anyone deserves a gimme it should be Oscar give me a reason why he should not fight Hatton and get another win.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
First DLH is not a FULL time fighter...Oscar gets in the ring whenever he feels the need for some spotlight...second it is not as though Oscar is going to do anything off the win.....IF and I stress the IF he did make it to 147 it would be just to fight Hatton an almost guarenteed win due to the size difference.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Tell ya what why doesn't he try to avenge a loss?....Why not fight Spinks?.....Karmazin?.....win another title he can actually make weight in and defend?...If he is going to suck weight then fight Cotto?....That fight would draw huge in the Garden.....
If he needs a gimme why not just go all the way instead of looking for a guy he knows he has size over and power....lets get crazy and drop to 140 and fight Malinaggi?...F**** it need a win that bad lets fight Golden Johnson?.....
IMO it is nothing more then a bully move in need of an ego fix
Well because he is the man in boxing he can do what he wants so it is tough shit o well he has the power to do so he made a legacy and jsut wants to fight guys that are not elite o well i guess.
The man is in his late 30's his prime is long gone and he just not the man he was so he does not feel like taking a beating at his old age which could happen i mean god he not a young buck anymore.
OK you just backed up my point about him looking for an almost guarenteed win...and he is 34 not in his late 30's....I can name over a dozen guys who fought top level comp later in their careers and still are doing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
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You don't want to take a beating then RETIRE FOR GOOD!!!!.....The sport is based on being punched in the face and body...l.I don't care who he has fought in the past...that was then this is now....either fight in your own weight class or fight legit WW's or don't fight at all...lets not wait for Floyd to beat a 140lbr see he got a KO then you look to fight him knowing you hit harder and are even bigger then Floyd....Thats BS and there is no way to defend it....matter of fact you are hurting the arguement by stating stuff about gimme's and he does not want to take a beating
Well look age aside he is not the fighter he was and he has the power to do what he wants. This is boxing and money talks and he has both that and power and Hatton could get another payday and then call it quiets he said he would in a year why not get some money i mean that is real life.
I see your still mad that your boy got knocked the fuck out. To bad. Your mom's calling. Time for you to throw out the trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by Mr140
letsa make something clear...It would be for ego not money....ODH has more money then any human can possible need in 5 lifetimes i promise that....
And just because someone has the power to make something happen it does not mean it is right.....SHIT he could get Jorge Arce to gain 40lbs if he offered him 5mil and fight him but would that make it right.....
What you just basicly said is ODH is BUYING a win
Well yea i guess you could put it that why Khan he is buying a win and he has the power to so and nothing you say or i say will change that. I personaly will give Oscar the benfit of the doubt and say he diserves a fight he can win everyone elese seems to get one.
If Oscar wants to wind down his career fighting hand-picked opponents, more power to him. Hell, I give him some credit for hand-picking a somewhat decent opponent. He could fight anyone and still make a handsome ransom.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
No mate we can't change it but we can deny giving him respect for his actions
that is what i am saying not like Hatton is the worse Oscar could pick i mean god hatton not Elite but he is close so why not have a win over him.
You're fooling nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Mr140
But tyhere are names at 154 he can beat with as much ease IMO..but each to his own I guess...all I am saying is he waited like a Jackal in the background....Watched the PBF fight...The realized "You know what...Hatton is smaller then me...was KO's by a guy who does not hit nearly as hard as me....I haven't fiught under 154 in years...Rickuy only knows how to come foward....so easy win for me...and his style makes me look great doing it".....
Sorry mate I can't respect that...but again each to his own
VD has a incurable case of himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise