The biggest Hatton flaw I saw.

He doesn't move his fucking head coming in... its no wonder he gets countered so hard. IF you are coming in full speed all the time you need headmovement. People were comparing this fight to Castillo-Mayweather, but like I've been saying all along Castillo used a lot of head movement and he used measured pressure. Head movement is a pot shoter's nightmare, and I think even Roy Jones Jr. would have had a lot of problems with James Toney had he pot shoted that whole night, but once he started throwing combinations he became effective. Mayweather wouldn't go into a combination throwing mode if his fights with Castillo are any indication.

I personally think Hatton let the big fight GET TO HIM , i mean he hardly threw any body shots all night ,
he headhunted and walk forward like a robot.
The outcome would probably been the same anyway , Floyd showed so much ability , he can fight in second gear and its still to much for most fighters.
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He also didn't go to the body as much as he should have.

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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker

He also didn't go to the body as much as he should have.

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i KINDA HINTED THAT POINT IN MY POST ;D

He was trying, but most of the time he was hitting Mayweather on the elbows, and Mayweather was very good at tying Hatton up on the inside and not letting him get off punches, also I don't believe Hatton was just head hunting and walking forward like a robot, he was using angles with his legs, but he wasn't moving his upper body, and I've been looking back and he has never used a whole lot of upper body movement except against slower guys where he can react and move out of the way in time, but against Mayweather he should have known it would be different because this is exactly what happened to him against Collazo. This is why Cotto IMO is harder to hit because he uses his body to deflect the blows, he also makes you punch from angles that get less power most of the time, though he can be hit with uppercuts. I think that Hatton really needs to work on his upper body movement and he will be fine, also he's been tiring out lately in fights and maybe they should take out weight lifting or something because that shouldn't be happening, and I am wondering if maybe he was only able to keep up that pace against Kostya Tszyu because the old man wasn't returning the physical pressure and was looking for a clean punch too much. Since that point everyone who has pushed back has tired Hatton out.

Basically the biggest flaw was the fact that once he got close to Floyd he never gave himself enough room to do any good work. Basically all he was doing was stopping Floyd from working. He cut off the ring just fine....but when he got close to Floyd he was so close that he couldn't put any leverage into any punch. Basically he smotherd his own work....which he tends to do sometimes.

Floyd was scoring best (from what i can remember) when they seperated breifly.

If hatton had his hands up, he may of been able to deflect a few of those shots. Maybe.

Hatton does move his head but he failed to realise when he was in range to do so.

Too upright when he comes in, but when he comes in at an angle he was having trouble finding an opening. Should have just wailed away on chest, arm or anything he could hit, rather than waiting for a clean shot. I have to say he was taking Floyd out his game early on(almost knocked him down), but once Floyd got his timing down it was the straight right all day.

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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker

He also didn't go to the body as much as he should have.

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Floyd would not have let Ricky punch him to the body excessively.

Yeah Floyd took away much of Hatton's ability to go to the body. Hatton basically ignored head movement coming in. He took some vicious lead rights that had to take some fight out of him.

It's clear his moronic trainer has not seen very many world -class fighters because if he did he would not have been saying how he never saw anyone work as hard as Hugman in all his life. The guy does all that grunting and stuff but he still gets tired all the time, I guess he sees grunting with every punch as outstanding cardio!

So what went right and what went wrong?

Good (ish) things

I thought Ricky looked fine fitness wise (remember how everyone was saying he looked amazing). There was no forum member anywhere saying he looked anything other than fine physically

As the fight started I thought it was going ok - the flying hooks were landing which is a good start considering how elusive Floyd is meant to be.

After 3 rounds I thought he was a bit behind, but things were ok and it was still anyones fight

After 3 or 4 rounds Cortez started allowing inside work and wasnt breaking them up

Bad things

He did look nervous, and there did seem to have been some kind of falling out

The ref stopping him doing inside work unti 3rd or 4th rd

Summary

I think the fight was lost becasue Ricky's trademark way of winning was to get in close and hammer the body, wearing down the opponent. Even when after 4 rounds he was allowed inside, Floyd was better than Ricky at inside work and the opposite was happening - Ricky was getting worn out on the inside.
I think Floyd turned the tables and did a RIcky on Ricky, wearing him out inside, but also hammering him at range - Ricky got weaker and weaker, then was knocked out. Pretty much exactly what Ricky has done to so many fighters (eg Maussa), Floyd did to him

Any comments?

I'm not a Floyd Mayweather hater and I'm not a Hatton lover, I simply respect both fighters.

I thought Hatton could honestly do it, I felt he could beat Mayweather but on the night the best man won and that was Mayweather, so a big WELL DONE to Mayweather and Hatton can be proud for stepping up and giving it a shot.

I must confess and please I'm not making any excuses, It's just my observation. I thought Hatton looked alot skinnier than he has previouslly been at Light Welter, I expected him to carry abit more bulk into the ring, I feel he may have Overtrained for this fight. I also felt Joe Cortez could have let Hatton get on with it abit more, I'm not sure if you agree with me but I thought Cortez was breaking them up far too much. especially after Hatton caught Mayweather with the jab and knocked him off balance.

Talking about the Jab, De La Hoya said to Hatton before the fight to employ the Jab and when Hatton used his Jab (once in the whole fight) he had success.

That's the biggest thing I felt was missing with Hatton, he never used his Jab to get in close, combined with head movement he could have had more success, I'm not saying he would have won the fight, but ceratainly taken it to points.

In all fairness I think the occasion get the better of Hatton and he lost his composure also I noticed when they were doing the introductions Hatton looked somwhat nervy, you could see it in his eyes.

I got a very interesting newspaper article below which I think sums it up nicely, especially the reference to Hatton's idol.

I've just taken a section of the article:

"Historically, the precedents Hatton most needed to follow had been set by the great lightweight champion Roberto Duran, who had overwhelmed arguably Britain's finest post-war boxer, Kenny Buchanan, in Madison Square Garden and then, as a welterweight in Montreal's Olympic Stadium, waged such effective psychological warfare on the hitherto luminous Sugar Ray Leonard that the man of much greater natural talent found himself fighting another man's fight.


That was Hatton's hope in his remorseless pre-fight questioning of the durability of Mayweather's will.


Unfortunately, there was a missing element; Duran not only talked like a demon, with insults which went to Leonard's very marrow, he also fought like one. When he went into the ring in New York and in Montreal his dark eyes burned like well-lit coals. When Hatton walked to the ring his eyes were pools of something less than conviction; not the outright apprehension that gripped Frank Bruno when he went in against Mike Tyson for a second time, nor that which grew in the much ballyhooed Naseem Hamed when he felt the force and the speed and the sheer determination of his first truly serious opponent, Marco Antonio Barrera, but a dawning of the fact that he had talked his way into something far, far more challenging than anything he had ever faced before.


When Leonard raised his arms, optimistically, in Montreal, Duran was outraged to the point of aiming a kick at his backside. This was a man who had, according to Panamanian legend, once felled a mule with one punch, whose favourite pet was a lion cub, who had persuaded himself he had the measure of the dazzling Sugarman. Hatton made a similar case for himself in regard to Mayweather, but as fight time drew near the difficulties of prosecuting the argument seemed to be written on his face".

interesting and well said

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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker

He also didn't go to the body as much as he should have.

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I was thinking the same thing, with Floyd having his elbows up high why didn't Hatton go body, body, body?

The biggest Hatton flaw I saw was that Joe Cortez had a phuking leash on Hatton for the first 6 rounds.