mayweather is a great,-but not the greatest!

2me ali is the greatest---because he beat the best quality of 60's and 70's and was never even had a prime. if he had a prime....damn. mayweather has proven he is 1 of the greats---nobody is gonna beat him. but if he mixed it up with SRR--SRR would b the last man standing. hell SRL could take him. where u place him -iz your biz.

ali not the greatest he is presume so coz of his large character the quieter brown bomber is the best heay weight but srr is the best in all weights... wat you mean didnt have a prime you telling me ken norton would have beat him ten years earlier

This is a pointles debate in terms of competition, athleticism, and champion qualities Ali is second to none, and I think he did more than Robinson, but Robinson fought more fights, and people who have only seen him at MW where he so obviously isn't the greatest by that point still think he is better than everyone else almost blindly, he is definitely up there, but he wouldn't have beaten a guy like RJJ p4p or Ali IMO.

Ali is not and never will be the greatest p4p

We wont know with Floyd until he's officially done
It looked like Tito was going to be,until Bernard caught him
It looked like Hearns was going to be
Lets let his career run its course before we judge it
Just like Joe is losing a little prestige because it looks like Lacy might be BS,maybe Mayweather loses some if Hatton turns out to be a one trick pony.
Its like saying you can only judge Ali on Chavalllo
You dont know until its over

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

We wont know with Floyd until he's officially done
It looked like Tito was going to be,until Bernard caught him
It looked like Hearns was going to be
Lets let his career run its course before we judge it
Just like Joe is losing a little prestige because it looks like Lacy might be BS,maybe Mayweather loses some if Hatton turns out to be a one trick pony.
Its like saying you can only judge Ali on Chavalllo
You dont know until its over

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Well put my friend :)

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

We wont know with Floyd until he's officially done
It looked like Tito was going to be,until Bernard caught him
It looked like Hearns was going to be
Lets let his career run its course before we judge it
Just like Joe is losing a little prestige because it looks like Lacy might be BS,maybe Mayweather loses some if Hatton turns out to be a one trick pony.
Its like saying you can only judge Ali on Chavalllo
You dont know until its over

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Well put my friend :)

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Thanks,a career has to run its course before you can judge it
Big George would be a blip on the radar without that improbable comeback
Very rarely can you say,"Oh he;s an all timer" for a guy still fighting
Jones,Hopkins,Im leaning that way towards Mayweather,if Joe puts one more big name under his belt Calzeghe,but normally you have to wait until the dust has settled
Honestly,Id prefer this fight didnt happen,its nothing but money for Bernard,and even if Joe wins,its an old guy
Why its going to happen,is who's left for either of them,theyve beaten everyone else

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

We wont know with Floyd until he's officially done
It looked like Tito was going to be,until Bernard caught him
It looked like Hearns was going to be
Lets let his career run its course before we judge it
Just like Joe is losing a little prestige because it looks like Lacy might be BS,maybe Mayweather loses some if Hatton turns out to be a one trick pony.
Its like saying you can only judge Ali on Chavalllo
You dont know until its over

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Well put my friend :)

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Thanks,a career has to run its course before you can judge it
Big George would be a blip on the radar without that improbable comeback
Very rarely can you say,"Oh he;s an all timer" for a guy still fighting
Jones,Hopkins,Im leaning that way towards Mayweather,if Joe puts one more big name under his belt Calzeghe,but normally you have to wait until the dust has settled
Honestly,Id prefer this fight didnt happen,its nothing but money for Bernard,and even if Joe wins,its an old guy
Why its going to happen,is who's left for either of them,theyve beaten everyone else

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Nop eB-Hop is not old According to all of the forum members when he beat Tarver they all agree that he still the Best so if JC wins it. He will has his props

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2me ali is the greatest---because he beat the best quality of 60's and 70's and was never even had a prime. if he had a prime....damn. mayweather has proven he is 1 of the greats---nobody is gonna beat him. but if he mixed it up with SRR--SRR would b the last man standing. hell SRL could take him. where u place him -iz your biz.

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Ali is not the greatest Armstrong, Pep, Robinson. Are all higher than Ali and i don't care what anyone says Ali should have at least 8 losses on his record.

He lost to Young.
He lost 2 out of 3 to Norton.
He should of got DQ against Cooper.
He lost to Shavers.

Ice it's unfortunate that all of those great fighters can have question marks put over there names :(

Armstrong started his career as a jobber, he was paid to lose fights and as such we have no idea of his true record or whether favours were returned.

Pep was a star in a shady time for boxing, opposition was questionable and his most famed fights were gritty dirty affairs (with saddler.)

Robinson finished his career as a jobber in MSG...I'm terribly sorry to say his record is in question.

;D ;D ;D

Oh why oh why wasn't boxing the perfect world it is nowadays ::**

Floyd is a FRAUD!

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2me ali is the greatest---because he beat the best quality of 60's and 70's and was never even had a prime. if he had a prime....damn. mayweather has proven he is 1 of the greats---nobody is gonna beat him. but if he mixed it up with SRR--SRR would b the last man standing. hell SRL could take him. where u place him -iz your biz.

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Ali is not the greatest Armstrong, Pep, Robinson. Are all higher than Ali and i don't care what anyone says Ali should have at least 8 losses on his record.

He lost to Young.
He lost 2 out of 3 to Norton.
He should of got DQ against Cooper.
He lost to Shavers.

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so mayweather should of lost against castillo and been dqed aginst judah therefore making his record 37-2? come on be serious

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2me ali is the greatest---because he beat the best quality of 60's and 70's and was never even had a prime. if he had a prime....damn. mayweather has proven he is 1 of the greats---nobody is gonna beat him. but if he mixed it up with SRR--SRR would b the last man standing. hell SRL could take him. where u place him -iz your biz.

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Ali is not the greatest Armstrong, Pep, Robinson. Are all higher than Ali and i don't care what anyone says Ali should have at least 8 losses on his record.

He lost to Young.
He lost 2 out of 3 to Norton.
He should of got DQ against Cooper.
He lost to Shavers.

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and to quote further robinson lost his crown 5 times! if he was truly a p4p number one of all time would he really have all those losses on his record? because he certainly has more than Ali who you seem to think is far below him

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2me ali is the greatest---because he beat the best quality of 60's and 70's and was never even had a prime. if he had a prime....damn. mayweather has proven he is 1 of the greats---nobody is gonna beat him. but if he mixed it up with SRR--SRR would b the last man standing. hell SRL could take him. where u place him -iz your biz.

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Ali is not the greatest Armstrong, Pep, Robinson. Are all higher than Ali and i don't care what anyone says Ali should have at least 8 losses on his record.

He lost to Young.
He lost 2 out of 3 to Norton.
He should of got DQ against Cooper.
He lost to Shavers.

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so mayweather should of lost against castillo and been dqed aginst judah therefore making his record 37-2? come on be serious

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Norton vs Ali 3 was a flatout robbery, and Young out boxed Ali, i see both fights and no way on this earth Ali deserved to win these fights. Mayweather vs Castillo 1 was close, and it was 1 point in it either way, Judah should of been DQ not Mayweather.

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Originally Posted by undefeated

2me ali is the greatest---because he beat the best quality of 60's and 70's and was never even had a prime. if he had a prime....damn. mayweather has proven he is 1 of the greats---nobody is gonna beat him. but if he mixed it up with SRR--SRR would b the last man standing. hell SRL could take him. where u place him -iz your biz.

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Ali is not the greatest Armstrong, Pep, Robinson. Are all higher than Ali and i don't care what anyone says Ali should have at least 8 losses on his record.

He lost to Young.
He lost 2 out of 3 to Norton.
He should of got DQ against Cooper.
He lost to Shavers.

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and to quote further robinson lost his crown 5 times! if he was truly a p4p number one of all time would he really have all those losses on his record? because he certainly has more than Ali who you seem to think is far below him

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At the end of his career most of his losses come from.

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Floyd is a FRAUD!

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Floyd is a pound 4 pound ducker
pound 4 pound elbow king
pound for pound ref buyer
pound 4 pound hugger.

while i think floyd is the no 2 p4p fighter after roy jones since hagler, duran, hearns and sugar ray L

i think he can move to the number one spot either joint of ahead of jones if he does the following -

beats Cotto and Williams. Williams is the only fighter that can troble him imo, cotto would be a UD mayweather, maybe a Ko if cotto is still chinny ( but from the mosely fight i highly doubt that). I just cant see anyone getting to floyds defense, so like de la hoya they must aim to outpoint him, im not sure cotto can do that. Williams however i think can with his longer reach. Roy Jones going to heavy has made it so hard to put anyone else above him in the all time p4p lists, including the sugars and ali's etc. Mayweather would have to go to middleweight and somehow beat pavlik or abraham if he wanted to be clear cut above jones imo

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ali not the greatest he is presume so coz of his large character the quieter brown bomber is the best heay weight but srr is the best in all weights... wat you mean didnt have a prime you telling me ken norton would have beat him ten years earlier

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i thought every1 knew ali never reached his prime--if u wanna put louis as #1 thats fine--but his opposition wasnt as great as ali's--he defended his title against a delhi owner-i hope your not 1 of those people who praise louis but disses marciano. because louis and marciano had the same type of opposition