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Just a thought?? i dont think he will be able to come to terms with not being able to defeat Mayweather, and this was the pincle of his career and everything he has worked for in a way.. I dont think i have ever seen a fighter as mentally distraught as Hatton has been in the days after the fight..
Does he now feel that if he cant rematch Mayweather some time in the near future that he has then settled for second best????
I don't know about mentally ruined but what i do know is he should never rematch Mayweather.
t thats like Hatton saying im not good enough and i dont think he can take that..
even if he goes back down to 140 and wins beats a couple of champs he will still be asked about his fight with Mayweather..
Its simple only time will tell if Hattons head is FOOKED up.Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
I wouldnt go as far as to say Ricky is mentally ruined, but the fight was one which he was convinced he could win...and he didnt. He didnt just lose, he was KTFO.
I get no pleasure in saying that, but thats what happened. Hatton's confidence will have taken a knock, no doubt, and it would be the same for anyone.
I hope he can come back and stop Paulie at 140. That will be as serious a statment of intent as any. Rick will be back, hopefully as close to as good as ever.
No one can know if he's ruined mentally until his next fight. He should never set foot in the ring with another 147 pounder again.
Well as far as it ruining Hatton, who really knows? It's not like he sat down and quit. And it's not like he lost to a bum. No shame in losing to Floyd{except for running face 1st into the turnbuckle, that has to be embarassing :-[}
His big mistake was thinking he could go from Collazo{which was a very close fight}to the best p4p fighter in the world. I think he shouldn't have gone from Collazo back down to fighting a virtual journeyman in the making in Urango, and then back up to Floyd. IMO he should have at the least rematched Collazo or tried to fight someone like Zab to at least get some feeling for what kind of speed he would be dealing with.
He doesn't want to get back in with Floyd, and I can't see Floyd wanting to fight Hatton again. It would make Floyd in alot of people's eyes look bad, and appear it's more about money than anything. Hatton needs to stay at 140, as there are some fights there that can be hard enough for him without worrying about the WW's and what he can do there{which isn't much}
If he's so upset that he questions his career, then he only has himself to blame :-\
I hope not, I don't prefer his style and I'm not a fan of his. But one thing I've got to see on this
board is how exciting his fights can be, he seems to be a blue collar hero. I style hold him at
#1 at 140 and think he still has some miles left on him, I think the best thing for him to do
mentally is get in there with Gavin Rees and get his confidence back, then he can sort out
either Witter or PM.
so what will Ricky do if he drops back down to 140 and clears the dicvision out in a couple of fights.. ie Paulie and Witter, will he then chase another fight with Mayweather??
He seems to think its his destany to beat him in my eyes..
There's only a couple of meaningfull fights at 140, not the big fights which Hatton said he will only take now in his carrer.
Next fight will tell...
Will he become obsessed with winning train like a spartan and fight like a pitbull on speed
or
will he become disheartened train in mediocrity and lose his legacy forever...
I think I prefer the first option!
CC, a very interesting post.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
I agree to an extent. A career should follow a certain path and prepare you for the next trajectory. Hatton's hasnt. There is little coherence in the choices since Kostya. If it was leading to a specific goal ie Floyd then its hard to see any correlation in the choice of opposition. All south paws and no real warm ups to see if he could even deal with the WW division. Castillo was good but Castillo was the one stepping up. Since Kostya we witnessed the biggest waits between fights and indeed the biggest weights between fights.
Ricky was keyed up to fight Floyd, make no mistake, but has he even been geared to go 12 hard rounds for nigh on 2 years? Lots of question marks. Im a big Hatton fan, but have lots of doubts spinning around.
Like I say, I hope he bounces back and quick. But he's gotta take it seriously all the way through as he finally seemed to realise prior to preparing for Floyd.
EDIT....Of course, Hatton fought Collazo...but the point is that he didnt follow it up. Why try it without further practice against the best boxer in the world? Mayweather is a natural WW now.
Hatton will never beat Mayweather Roger Mayweather told Hatton and the boxing world how to beat his nephew and thats with a stick.
CC back Miles. And it's not only going 12 hard rounds, it's who he was getting ready to go 12 rounds with in Floyd Mayweather. I respect Hatton for making that massive leap to Floyd, but man, there is a difference between confidence and arrogance{or sanity and insanity ;D}Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
This very well may damage Ricky's mindset, as he is in the twilight of his career, but he has some fights left in him and I for one hope he shines.
A rematch doesn't make sense...there are more people who have rights to call on a rematch way before Hatton does..the ending was as conclusive as any. KO in the 10th..wasn't a split desision..wasn't a robbery and it wasn't a draw. De La Hoya has more claim for a rematch than does Hatton.
You are right. A rematch is worthless in a world of boxers who fight twice yearly...if even that!! :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
hahah how will that get his confidence back? Going from fighting Mayweather in one of the biggest British fights of all time to walking in as a challenger to Gavin Rees is like Steve McLaren being sacked from his England job and taking up his new post as assistant manager of the Brixham Bull & Bush pubs 5 a side teamQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I wouldn't be the least bit supprised if Paulie beat Hatton.
Think about it. He did pretty good in his loss to Cotto. He also showed he could take a punch.
He also looked very impressive against another preasure fighter in N'due.
Plus, Hatton just came of a KO loss to a slick boxer.
We will be able to tell after his next fight. If he gets beaten easily, then maybe it was a bit too much for him. But i think a guy like RH is better than that, and will accept that he lost, because he faced the very best.
yeh but can he accept being second best as he has worked throughout his career to that fight to beat Mayweather..
Of course he can, he just will have to admit, the better fighter won. If he wants to prove that ONLY the best could beat him he will continue to fight. This is why he will prove he is the best at 140!Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Well he has to accept it, because it won't change. And who says Hatton is 2nd best? He has to fight and beat Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Mosley, and Cintron to even get to be called 2nd best behind Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Hey guys this is my first post on this site,My opinion is Hatton is "mentally ruined" from this one.Mayweather talked some much trash and Hatton just wanted to put a hurting on him.He just got caught cold.How about Lederman's scorecard. That was a bit off? heh?
yeh but to me there doesnt seem like there can be a plan B in his career..
CC, a very interesting post.
I agree to an extent. A career should follow a certain path and prepare you for the next trajectory. Hatton's hasnt. There is little coherence in the choices since Kostya. If it was leading to a specific goal ie Floyd then its hard to see any correlation in the choice of opposition. All south paws and no real warm ups to see if he could even deal with the WW division. Castillo was good but Castillo was the one stepping up. Since Kostya we witnessed the biggest waits between fights and indeed the biggest weights between fights.
Ricky was keyed up to fight Floyd, make no mistake, but has he even been geared to go 12 hard rounds for nigh on 2 years? Lots of question marks. Im a big Hatton fan, but have lots of doubts spinning around.
Like I say, I hope he bounces back and quick. But he's gotta take it seriously all the way through as he finally seemed to realise prior to preparing for Floyd.
EDIT....Of course, Hatton fought Collazo...but the point is that he didnt follow it up. Why try it without further practice against the best boxer in the world? Mayweather is a natural WW now.
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The thing is though, he tried his hardest to get better quality opposition after Tszyu, and no-one would sign
When he fought Collazo, it was only after about 6 names had fallen through - it was Collazo or nothing
So I think everyone agrees he cleaned up LWW pretty much, and people were saying he wouldnt fight in states, so he did the states
Then people were saying he didnt fight the best so he has now done that
I am not sure what goals he still has - Mayweather was his goal, and it would have to be bordering on mircaulous for him to re-train, learn some missing skills, beat 4 decent people ever to have a chance to go to a top name again at WW
I almost think he should retire, I mean who cares if he beats Mali, Torres, Witter and Rees - he is already Ring Champion so it is just covering old ground
Unless he just wants to finish his career in 3rd gear at LWW
Thats your opinion not mine, but mark my words Hatton will be a champion again :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
He'll be mentally ruined at the moment all right
probably wont come off the lash till about mid January
thats my Ricky Hatton ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
and that could possibly be why your ricky hatton seems to run out of gas towards the end of fights of late???
not always the best for a boxer to be a part time piss artist haha...
It was a clear joke, but that Ricky Hatton would beat anybody at 140 now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
yeh i know man, was actually just making a point there...
do you think his life style has hindered him of late and maybe catching up with him????????
yer i suppose in ways it has, but you couldnt tell too much with castillo because he stopped him early. His next fight will we be able to see. JW and PM have good chins.Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna