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Would Hatton be able to beat any of the top WW?
After looking at the ring's top 10 WW I think Hatton would have a hard time against any of them.Needs to drop back down IMO.
Hatton should have gone after a fight with Cotto when he was still at light welter weight because now he has developed into a bit of a ring monster.
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This question has been asked over a thousand times in the last week or so, and Hatton has the talent to beat any of the WW with the exception of PBF, but Williams probably holds to much of a size advantage to lose to Hatton
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This question has been asked over a thousand times in the last week or so, and Hatton has the talent to beat any of the WW with the exception of PBF, but Williams probably holds to much of a size advantage to lose to Hatton
Only got back from Vegas on thursday so I missed the thousand questions about this. ;D
Disagree with what you said.Hatton is two small for WW.There is a good chance of him gettiing KOd again if he fights any of the top 5.
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This question has been asked over a thousand times in the last week or so, and Hatton has the talent to beat any of the WW with the exception of PBF, but Williams probably holds to much of a size advantage to lose to Hatton
Only got back from Vegas on thursday so I missed the thousand questions about this. ;D
Disagree with what you said.Hatton is two small for WW.There is a good chance of him gettiing KOd again if he fights any of the top 5.
Why P, he lost to a great fighter, and he showed alot of heart, he had some good rounds. Just because PBF did it does not mean everybody can duplicate it, besides he had some moments in the fight where he was all over PBF, he showed alot of heart
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
Yes i did i'll try and find the thread where i said it gimme one second.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
Mosley shut out Collazo where as Hatton got razor thin decision, Hatton knocked down Collazo, because Collazo was caught going backwards so he was slightly off balance, plus he was caught cold.
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You bloody wiseass. OK you didn't believe in him at 147, but how do you fell about Cotto? He turned WW after Hatton ;D
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I said it before the fight and after the fight,Hatton wouldn't last with any of the top WW's and anyone who thinks he stands a chance v Marg,PW etc is delusional and has NOTHING to support their point.
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I said it before the fight and after the fight,Hatton wouldn't last with any of the top WW's and anyone who thinks he stands a chance v Marg,PW etc is delusional and has NOTHING to support their point.
Yep, I agree completely. I have a very hard time seeing Hatton beat any of the top 6 or 7 welters, and he gets KO'd by the top 3 or 4 for sure.
That's not meant as disrespect to Hatton, it's just that 147 is a whole different world from 140.
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I said it before the fight and after the fight,Hatton wouldn't last with any of the top WW's and anyone who thinks he stands a chance v Marg,PW etc is delusional and has NOTHING to support their point.
Yep, I agree completely. I have a very hard time seeing Hatton beat any of the top 6 or 7 welters, and he gets KO'd by the top 3 or 4 for sure.
That's not meant as disrespect to Hatton, it's just that 147 is a whole different world from 140.
Yup and I must state,I mean it as no disrespect either but as seen from Hatton's performances at 147 compared to 140,there is a BIG difference. I still think he is the best at 140,but 147,no way.The people that say he has a chance v the elites are either Hatton hardcores or Floyd fans wanting to make his win over Hatton bigger than it was.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
Mosley shut out Collazo where as Hatton got
razor thin decision, Hatton knocked down Collazo,
because Collazo was caught going backwards so he was slightly off balance, plus he was caught cold.
You really don't like Ricky Hatton do you?? ::**
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Yea Hatton is a good fighter and lost to the BEST ,wots wrong with that ??
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
Mosley shut out Collazo where as Hatton got
razor thin decision, Hatton knocked down Collazo,
because Collazo was caught going backwards so he was slightly off balance, plus he was caught cold.
You really don't like Ricky Hatton do you?? ::**
Did i not just point out the facts ?? whats wrong in that ?? tell me one point i made wrong ?? and i hate Hatton so much i just defended him.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.
Not to sound nasty here but your making it sound like Feliciano has iron chin, this is the same Feliciano who was KO in 4 rounds by light hitting Demetrius Hopkins, and this is the same Feliciano was stopped in 1 round, getting dropped 3 times in the process by light hitting Mike Arnaoutis. I think Cintron's power is slightly overrated he has never really stopped any good opponent.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
Mosley shut out Collazo where as Hatton got
razor thin decision, Hatton knocked down Collazo,
because Collazo was caught going backwards so he was slightly off balance, plus he was caught cold.
You really don't like Ricky Hatton do you?? ::**
Did i not just point out the facts ?? whats wrong in that ?? tell me one point i made wrong ?? and i hate Hatton so much i just defended him.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
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"Razor Thin decision" by 3 points on two cards he won and it's not like it was a split decision or anything and Ricky Hatton done what Mosely never done which was knock him down. For just taking it on 5 weeks notice Hatton done pretty well against Collazo who is a natural welterweight and had already beaten Jose Rivera who went on to become the light-middle champ.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Ice did you think this before he fought PBF, Hatton is a great champion and if you don't think he can beat Mosley, Clottey etc something is wrong. They both have a common opponent CALLAZO and they both beat him, Hatton knocked him down and Mosley did not, Mosley beat him and it was his best victory in 5 years, Hatton beat him and dropped back down, why are you seeing such a big difference?
Mosley shut out Collazo where as Hatton got
razor thin decision, Hatton knocked down Collazo,
because Collazo was caught going backwards so he was slightly off balance, plus he was caught cold.
You really don't like Ricky Hatton do you?? ::**
Did i not just point out the facts ?? whats wrong in that ?? tell me one point i made wrong ?? and i hate Hatton so much i just defended him.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
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"Razor Thin decision" by 3 points on two cards he won and it's not like it was a split decision or anything and Ricky Hatton done what Mosely never done which was knock him down. For just taking it on 5 weeks notice Hatton done pretty well against Collazo who is a natural welterweight and had already beaten Jose Rivera who went on to become the light-middle champ.
Forgetting what judges had it, because if we are using that logic then Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez was a close fight because the judges had it a draw.
Most people had the fight very close, in fact the British broadcast team had Hatton only winning by 1 point and a lot of people had it only 1 point in it either way. If your going to try and tell me Collazo vs Hatton wasn't very close then there is something very wrong.
Hatton knocked Collazo down yes bit it was only a flash knockdown when Collazo was moving backwards. Collazo was off balance at the time and Hatton only caught Collazo with a jolting shot. Fair play Hatton knocked him down but it was nothing more than a flash knockdown due to Collazo being off balance.
Mosley may of not knocked down Collazo but he handle Collazo much easier, Mosley basically shut out Collazo.
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Mosley did knock Collazo down,didn't he? I'm pretty sure he did,Collazo touched the canvas.
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Mosley did knock Collazo down,didn't he? I'm pretty sure he did,Collazo touched the canvas.
Omg i can't believe i forgot that El Gamo yes it was in the 11th round from a right hand silly me i forgot my bad. With all the massive fights that have happened this year i totally forgot.
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Hatton can't beat Mosley, Cotto, Williams or Margarito. I would give him a chance against Cintron{maybe just cause I can't stand him :-\}, but only if he stayed out of range of that right hand of Kermit's. Though, tht is unlikely as once he starts getting hit he takes alot of them, and Cintron would hit harder than that pole Hatton ran into ;D Could go either way, as Cintron gets unbalanced with constant pressure, almost like a new version of Judah IMO.
I think he could beat Judah, because after a few rounds Judah basicaly falls apart. He would get to Hatton the 1st couple of rounds, but he doesn't put the punches together like Mayweather and a pressure fighter always gets Zab frustrated. I say upper round stoppage for Hatton. I always said he would of done himself a favor by fighting Zab before ever attempting to get in with Floyd, just to gauge himself at least with a very fast opponent{though not as crafty as Floyd, granted}.
He could probably beat Carlos Plodomir. None of these guys are certainties, but they are the only ones I give Hatton a good chance to win over. You can forget the top WW's; not happening IMO.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.
Not to sound nasty here but your making it sound like Feliciano has iron chin, this is the same Feliciano who was KO in 4 rounds by light hitting Demetrius Hopkins, and this is the same Feliciano was stopped in 1 round, getting dropped 3 times in the process by light hitting Mike Arnaoutis. I think Cintron's power is slightly overrated he has never really stopped any good opponent.
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!! If light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!! Finito, you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.
Not to sound nasty here but your making it sound like Feliciano has iron chin, this is the same Feliciano who was KO in 4 rounds by light hitting Demetrius Hopkins, and this is the same Feliciano was stopped in 1 round, getting dropped 3 times in the process by light hitting Mike Arnaoutis. I think Cintron's power is slightly overrated he has never really stopped any good opponent.
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!! If light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!! Finito, you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!!
I said slightly overrated, and name me one fighter he has stopped who is worth mentioning ??
light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!!
Light hitting Collazo is naturally much bigger than Hatton, plus Hatton's other problem was that he has struggled badly with southpaws ever since he was an amateur.
you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Oh come on Cintron was using his right hand plenty, you don't honestly believe Cintron's poor excuse do you ?? the fact is Feliciano has been KO by light punchers so if Cintron is *The Killer* as you say he would of stopped Feliciano without much trouble.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.
Not to sound nasty here but your making it sound like Feliciano has iron chin, this is the same Feliciano who was KO in 4 rounds by light hitting Demetrius Hopkins, and this is the same Feliciano was stopped in 1 round, getting dropped 3 times in the process by light hitting Mike Arnaoutis. I think Cintron's power is slightly overrated he has never really stopped any good opponent.
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!! If light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!! Finito, you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!!
I said slightly overrated, and name me one fighter he has stopped who is worth mentioning ??
light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!!
Light hitting Collazo is naturally much bigger than Hatton, plus Hatton's other problem was that he has struggled badly with southpaws ever since he was an amateur.
you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Oh come on Cintron was using his right hand plenty, you don't honestly believe Cintron's poor excuse do you ?? the fact is Feliciano has been KO by light punchers so if Cintron is *The Killer* as you say he would of stopped Feliciano without much trouble.
Finito, I am beginning to wonder about your reasoning abilities.
As a way of supporting your opinion, you said: "Light hitting Collazo is naturally bigger than Hatton..." This justifies Collazo's ability to "rock" Hatton in round 12. But isn't Cintron naturally bigger than Hatton? Therefore, wouldn't Kermit be able to "rock" Hatton too?
You claim Cintron's "hurt" right hand was an excuse, but aren't you making excuses for Hatton's performance against Collazo by stating he had problems with southpaws "ever since he was an amateur"?
Please clarify these logical fallacies.
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Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Oscar, He loses to all of them no doubt in my mind. I think he beats, Judah, Berto, Cintron, but it wouldn't be easy by any means, and Quintana vs Hatton would be a hard one to call.
Hatton loses to Berto, Cintron, AND Quintana. Cintron would KO Hatton with one shot. Judah-Hatton would probably be the most exciting, with Judah coming out on top IMO.
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.
Not to sound nasty here but your making it sound like Feliciano has iron chin, this is the same Feliciano who was KO in 4 rounds by light hitting Demetrius Hopkins, and this is the same Feliciano was stopped in 1 round, getting dropped 3 times in the process by light hitting Mike Arnaoutis. I think Cintron's power is slightly overrated he has never really stopped any good opponent.
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!! If light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!! Finito, you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!!
I said slightly overrated, and name me one fighter he has stopped who is worth mentioning ??
light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!!
Light hitting Collazo is naturally much bigger than Hatton, plus Hatton's other problem was that he has struggled badly with southpaws ever since he was an amateur.
you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Oh come on Cintron was using his right hand plenty, you don't honestly believe Cintron's poor excuse do you ?? the fact is Feliciano has been KO by light punchers so if Cintron is *The Killer* as you say he would of stopped Feliciano without much trouble.
Finito, I am beginning to wonder about your reasoning abilities.
As a way of supporting your opinion, you said: "Light hitting Collazo is naturally bigger than Hatton..." This justifies Collazo's ability to "rock" Hatton in round 12. But isn't Cintron naturally bigger than Hatton? Therefore, wouldn't Kermit be able to "rock" Hatton too?
You claim Cintron's "hurt" right hand was an excuse, but aren't you making excuses for Hatton's performance against Collazo by stating he had problems with southpaws "ever since he was an amateur"?
Please clarify these logical fallacies.
As a way of supporting your opinion, you said: "Light hitting Collazo is naturally bigger than Hatton..." This justifies Collazo's ability to "rock" Hatton in round 12. But isn't Cintron naturally bigger than Hatton? Therefore, wouldn't Kermit be able to "rock" Hatton too?
Yes he is but the difference is Collazo is more skilled fighter than Cintron, it was the speed and southpaw stance that gave Hatton trouble. Hatton was rocked i never denied that but it was Hatton's first fight at Welterweight, and he only had 5 weeks to train so he wasn't 100 percent and he underestimated Collazo.
You claim Cintron's "hurt" right hand was an excuse, but aren't you making excuses for Hatton's performance against Collazo by stating he had problems with southpaws "ever since he was an amateur"?
Actually thats well known fact Hatton has always had trouble with Southpaws, most of his losses as amateur come against Southpaw's i believe, read up on it and your find out for yourself. I think most boxing fans would agree Cintron made that excuse for his poor showing against journeyman fighter that he was supposed to blow away. Don't you find it funny that Cintron was perfectly fine then he rolls on the floor then all of a sudden his hand is hurting ?? come on its obvious its BS.
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Re: Would Hatton be able to beat any of the top WW?
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I disagree with a couple of guy's on here trying to downgrade Ricky Hatton, I really believe it's unfair, and it seems to grow more and more everyday, the guy is a great fighter I don't care what these people say
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I disagree with a couple of guy's on here trying to downgrade Ricky Hatton, I really believe it's unfair, and it seems to grow more and more everyday, the guy is a great fighter I don't care what these people say
YEA NO QUESTION ricky is a great fighter........down at the 140 division. he ain't got no business above that. thats clear now ain't it.
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I disagree with a couple of guy's on here trying to downgrade Ricky Hatton, I really believe it's unfair, and it seems to grow more and more everyday, the guy is a great fighter I don't care what these people say
I don't think its downgrading i think its just being reasonable, Hatton is too small to beat any of the elite Welterweight's Hatton himself has stated that he is too small for Welterweight and no one would know better than Hatton himself.
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I disagree with a couple of guy's on here trying to downgrade Ricky Hatton, I really believe it's unfair, and it seems to grow more and more everyday, the guy is a great fighter I don't care what these people say
Definately true. It seems asthough just becuase he was stopped by PBF people have lost ALOT of faith in him as a fighter, which is very unfair. Everyone needs to remember he was fighting one of the best fighters of recent years and certainly the best in the world today. And he wasnt allowed to fight the way he wanted to and got a bit desperate. PBF was, is and always will be a better boxer but to say people like Cintron, Margarito etc beat him without hesitation is a tad unfair.
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I don't think anyone is trying to berate Ricky. He is a damn good fighter. Many just think he is out of his element at welterweight where their are some huge mofo's compared to him. Ricky is even kinda small for a Jr. Welterweight, but his skill overcomes his size deficiencies. At welterweight, those deficiencies just become even more pronounced.
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After looking at the ring's top 10 WW I think Hatton would have a hard time against any of them.Needs to drop back down IMO.
Hatton should have gone after a fight with Cotto when he was still at light welter weight because now he has developed into a bit of a ring monster.
Well Me at leas don't think Hatto will be able to beat Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito and Cintron. way too big and way too strong.
Here there is Poll about it
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,56111.0.html
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I don't think anyone is trying to berate Ricky. He is a damn good fighter. Many just think he is out of his element at welterweight where their are some huge mofo's compared to him. Ricky is even kinda small for a Jr. Welterweight, but his skill overcomes his size deficiencies. At welterweight, those deficiencies just become even more pronounced.
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I disagree with a couple of guy's on here trying to downgrade Ricky Hatton, I really believe it's unfair, and it seems to grow more and more everyday, the guy is a great fighter I don't care what these people say
YEA NO QUESTION ricky is a great fighter........down at the 140 division. he ain't got no business above that. thats clear now ain't it.
CC DeanrW and Julie. Good posts,common sense and what I think and agree with totally. No-one is saying Hatton is not a good fighter but don't try to make him what he isn't-a legit contender at WW. His father and trainer admit he's too small to fight the elite at the weight. Some of his hardcore fans do too so I'm not really seeing the big fuss about it.He's sitll world class at 140,he just isnt effective with his style at 147.
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he doesn't belong at 147. he cannot beat any top WW
