If these three fought one another in a round robin, who would come out on top? I gotta go with Miranda at this point, but Lacy could surprise us. Andrade is tuff as hell and could wear either down possibly.
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If these three fought one another in a round robin, who would come out on top? I gotta go with Miranda at this point, but Lacy could surprise us. Andrade is tuff as hell and could wear either down possibly.
Andrade; no doubt in my mind about it. Miranda is the most serious threat, but pressure, pressure, pressure is whay Andrade bring, coupled with an iron jaw, and Miranda does not do well getting bullied. JMO
CC. You may be right, Pavlik had a significant bigger punch than Andrade though, and is a much better boxer. I think Miranda's power would catch up to Andrade, and Miranda can box a little and use his jab too.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
CC back. It will be fun to watch regardless. Kessler isn't the giggest puncher in the world, but he hits damn hard and look how Andrade lasted with that. Miranda does most likely hit harder, but Pantera won't stay out and box all night like Kessler did and will let Andrade{most likely} turn it into an ugly inside war. Andrade is sloppy, and that chin is really what saves him, but he physically wears people down, so it would be interesting to see how Miranda takes that kind of ugly infighting fown the stretch. Lacy though, at this time, is not even a major threat to either IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I think Lacys only future is face first.I think hes past it with shellshock beat down vs. Calzaghe and Injuries.Looks unsure and or unable
Miranda Vs. Andrade would have me salivating and a nervous wreck.I think Andrade can be affected by "fast" whipping punches Ala Mack But I just dont think Miranda can manage it...although Edison can Hit like a madman.I pick Andrade
I don't know, just sitting here really thinking about it, it could get real rough for Librado. God, someone is going home with a broken jaw after that fight{or something broken}. I know one thing, I won't be making any sig bets on that one the more I think about it :-\ One of the fights I would most like to see in 2008, and bet it will late in the year.
I agree, it should happen. But this is all granted that Miranda does not get outboxed by Canadian Phenom, or alleged Phenom, Jean Pascal. I like Pascal. I don't know who to root for in that fight honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Miranda - Andrade - Lacy in that order , both murder Lacy
Only seen Andrade once and he was little more than a human punching bag against Kessler. I can't really see him beating either of the other guys. Perhaps he was having an off night?Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Miranda destroys both. Lacy/Andrade is a tossup.
Lacy is shot. And Miranda doesn't fight well when pressured. Andrade wins this
Funny you mentioned this because over at boxing scene,Lacy mentions a fight with Miranda is possible! Anyway,here's my breakdown:
Lacy-can he regain the same form as before?Unlikely and even if he can,he was never a 1 punch ko artist as he was made out,just a tough,powerful fighter.
Miranda-need to see more of him at the weight and we will v Banks and then Pascal. Should tell us if he has improved and carries his power.
Andrade-tougher than them both and has shown,you stand in front of him,you're going to get hurt sooner or later. Even made Kessler adjust and use lateral movement against him. Really rough,tough fighter. I'd definitely favour him against the above 2 unless Miranda shows 1 punch power at the weight and even then,I think I'd favour ANdrade because I just plain out like him more.
Nice thread though!
Miranda.
im going with miranda. lacy is done
Miranda would come out on top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I have never thought much of Andrade or Lacy too be honest.
Lacy is a shot boxer. Andrande IMO
Lacy aint surprising no one, He will get KTFO out by both of them and I think Miranda offers that bit more that Andrande.
As much as I hate to go against Lacy I'd have to say Miranda at this tage.
To beat Miranda I feel you've got to really bang, Andrade doesn't have enough, Lacy isn't showing it...
I'll throw my vote to Miranda. It is true he could not fight well going backwards, but that was against Pavlik. I don't think Andrade can bully him like that. Even when Miranda was getting pushed back, he was still able to land some bombs on Pavlik. Man I am reliving that second round in my mind. What a slugfest that second round was!!
Miranda is a warrior and fights like one. I will never miss a fight of his. Yes Pavlik beat him, but he went down fighting.
When I go home i will watch that fight again. I watched it plenty of times, but still cannot get enough of it.
That was a great fight. Wish I had recorded the damn thing.
Funny cause Miranda's camp has been entertained with a possible date agasint both of those guys.
The plan is for him to fight Pascal, but if a better more lucrative fight came his way, you know Pantera, he will fight anyone.
I myself would like to see him face Bute. I think that would be a great fight (and for a belt!)
I wanna see the Pascal fight myself. Pascal tries to fight like Roy Jones, thats admirable. And Bute is a solid boxer, but Miranda is like a suped up version of Berrio but with a better chin and punch, and boxing ability, so basically nothin like Berrio at all besides aggression. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pantera
Yea, Berrio has no chin at all. Porras who has not much power KO's back in the day.
Miranda has proven he has a chin and a bigger heart. Pavlik had to almost murder him to get the stoppage, and that was against a Miranda that was not himself.
I just don't see the advantage of Edison fighting Pascal right now unless it was for a vacant belt or at least an elimination bout. Otherwise, Pascal has much more to gain than Edison.
I think miranda would do quite well in this type of fight.
It's a toss up between Andrade and Miranda....IMO Lacy is in need of too much revamping at the moment...
Miranda if he can find out what the word defense means would win the round robin...then again I think Andrade may have the most solid chin in the entire sport right now so don't know if Miranda could stop him
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Yea cause granite chin Lacy has a history of getting KO'D  :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
You guys can sleep on Lacy and throw dirt on him all you want, but trust me you be real suprised what he does in his next few fights ;)
cc #4 OF 10 jt I've been looking for one of your posts for quitew a while.
Thanks dude ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
No one is throwing dirt on him i think its just being reasonable, Lacy cannot beat any elite fighters at Light Heavyweight/Super Middleweight and he never has beaten elite fighter except a shot Robin Reid and i don't even think Reid is elite i think he is short of World Class and maybe Syd Vanderpool but IMO he is decent fighter at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Jeff is a fella that I like and would like to see suceed, hoiwever, for me he has got to impress in a fight against a good opponent soon. It's an absolute necessity.
The fights against Typsko and Manfredo although demonstrating he can fight against adversity have been extrememly detrimental to his faltering career. He needs a convincing win over the likes of the above names. And i truely hope he can get it.
Ok well besides Kessler and Calzaghe and an old ass Tarver, Johnson and Woods name me someone from Supermiddle-lightheavy who has beaten better opposition than Jeff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez