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Paul Williams can not make 147 much longer, he needs to be hustling to fight either Mayweather, Cotto, etc. It's alot of big fights at WW, at SW their is only Oscar De La Hoya and I doubt that Oscar would take that fight, the Vernon Forrest fight is not that appealing so he needs to be putting on the pressure at WW as of now. I would love a Cotto Vs Williams fight, we would find out alot about each fighter.
Agreed. I would like to see a Margarito/Williams rematch, just to keep them in the spotlight and busy. Though to be fair, Williams does deserve his shot at Cotto. Cintron will be gone for a while, so PW needs to get someone with a name. I think if any fighter is avoided at WW, it's Williams. Mosley/Williams would be a fun fight to watch, and would get PW some more name exposure IMO.
Legion he has been saying that he can easily make 147 but that's the same thing Taylor said at 160 during the Spinks fights, I know in my heart he will be out of the division in a year. I agree with you I would love to see another Margo- Williams fight, it was highly competitiveQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
I sure hope he can stay at 147. You'd think making 147 with that freak frame he would be drained, but look at his output against Tony. A guy having problems making weight wouldn't be able to keep a pace like that for that long. Though, things could change and he will be forced to move up like you said. I'm amazed he ever could make 147, as he is as tall as Pavlik, lol.
Totally agree, this guy is my favorite WW at the moment. I just don't see many people who can hang with him. His punch output is ridiculous and he is just so tall, plus he has a decent inside game so people have a hard time getting effective body shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
When no one wanted to fight Margarito, he was the one to step up and say I will fight him, I am not scared. The kid showed up like a warrior, I can't remember entirely but I think he lost 10 and 11 and came back in the 12th and won that. Just little things like that you know?? He can take a decent shot too
I think williams is the future of either the welterweight side by side with cotto or he'll move up to 154 and establish a legacy there.
mayweather would never fight him cause a. Hed have to unify title to do that and that isnt something hes known for and b. Williams could probably beat him. Unfortunately for Williams he is the true most feared welterweight out there and with good reason. Maybe Clottey or Urango for now would make sence.
I read earlier this morning that Williams is fighting Quintana
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...3664&cat=boxer
Of course this is coming from BoxRec so I don't know if it is true or not but this should be an interesting fight.
What about MAyorga? He is talking about moving back to 147? Would be a big name on Paul's opponents list.
You mean he'd be a big name on Mayorga's list of VICTIMS. ^-^Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
He could very well be. Remember what Ricardo did to the last tall and undefeated WW he faced........ :jabbing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
RIGHT. MAyorga will come to 147 and be exactly the same. please people come onQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
My comment was tongue in cheek......Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
Just thought if Mayorga could make 147 it'd be a good money making fight for Williams.
My bad dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
People like Williams frame at welteweight do not come very often i mean he has like a 82 inch reach i mean Welterweight with a Heavyweight reach.
Its ridiculous to say Williams would probably beat Mayweather for many reasons
1. Who has Williams really foughten, Mragarito? Bah he's just an overrated brawler, also his style is nothing like Mayweather's
2. Who has Margarito foughten like Mayweather?
3. Mayweather has foughten guys who throw a ton of punches and guys who are tall, and he does well against both.
4. Mayweather is the best in thedivision and in the sport so its ridiculous that he would Probably lose to anyone near his division.
What Williams does have going for him
1. He might overwhelm Mayweather with his punch output if Mayweather doesn't use enough footwork, and he won't outbox Mayweahter, but he might just throw so many punches Mayweather won't do enough to win rounds
2. He is fast and southpaw which is something Mayweather has had difficulties with..
3. He is good on the inside which means Mayweather has to be sharp all times.
but he doesn't have very good defense, he was stung quite a big agaisnt Margarito who didn't land very many punches that fight, and we don't know if he can keep that high punch rate against a mover, and a guy who smothers you on the inside like Mayweather.
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You make some good points Teath but i have to say somthing that you might disgree with but here it goes. Mayweather has not faced anything like PW i mean he has seen parts of him but not the package all at once. As you and me both know styles make fights and PW style i think is just bad for PBF. He has a ridulous reach advantage and he uses it well, can use the jab well and use angles well, height advantge and is a pretty good on the in side. I think PBf would be confused and probably give to many rounds away and find out that PW does not tire and lose by a few rounds it would be competive but i see PW getting a UD and i would bet about 100 bucks on PW if the had it on me and be ok with my bet. But yet again that is me i see PW as the man to beat PBf more so then even Cotto could be wrong but PW i really belive to be the man to beat Floyd if the fight ever happens.
Williams vs Clottey could also be a very good fight.
I don't see that size being all that big of an advantage, I think Mayweather's movement takes a lot of it away, and Paul doesn't ahe the power to keep Mayweather defensive like he was against Oscar, also I think that Mayweather can sting WIlliams because he will be hitting Williams early with those accurate punches he will eventually get to Williams which will slow him down. Also its different trying to keep a high punch number against a mover. Wright's punch stats dropped to half from Quartey to Hopkins because of movement. Duran couldn't get off half the punches he did in Leonard I as he did in Leonard II because of movement. How often was Hearns able to do one of his wild flurries against Leonard? ALmost never because of movement. THe difference is that Hearns was fast like WIlliams, but a far better boxer, with a bigger punch, a better jab, and better footwork. I see Mayweahter making WIlliams miss like crazy. First I would like to see Williams-Cotto because I think Cotto's strength would be too much for Williams and his accuracy and body shots would really hurt the bean pole. Williams could be great, but Mayweather is very great, as could be Cotto potentially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
If not for Leonard power at Welterweight he would not be able to win that fight. Williams will keep it on the out side and jab and move and win on points and Mayweather does not have the power or the inside skills to bully PW around Mayweather is more skilled then Margrito but his power is weaker then his and Willaims was taking it well. I think he just to much and will pull a UD the fight may happen then we all can be sure i be betting on the fight if it does come up and i will do a cc bet or a name bet or a money bet with my friends so i will be waiting for this fight if it some how happens.
What I am saying is that Mayweather blocks the jab against southpaws almost everytime... Williams puts no real power behind his jab, and Leonard took way too long just moving around which is why I think Mayweather adapts quicker because I believe, and he likes to fight on the inside.
But yea but how many rounds will it be till he gets there and if he does how effective will he really be on the inside.
one or two truthfully, like I said Williams isn't hearns.
True but were still not so sure what PBF is at the weight so we will see if they do fight.
Who has Mayweather fought with the size,work rate,reach and jab of Williams? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Well, both him and Margarito came in at 145, and they both looked a bit drained if you ask me. Margarito wasnt himself, and Williams was holding on for life in the late rounds, kind of gased a little. He did throw about 100 punches a round tho so you gotta cut him some slack.
Your so stupid its foughted not foughten. ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Mayweather vs. Williams wont happen just yet. Punisher has to get a little more fame before he even thinks about Mayweather. Right now that fight wouldnt sell the same as the Cotto fight. The logical conclusion would be for Cotto Vs. Williams and the winner gets Mayweather. IMO Cintron is ducking Williams, he doesnt like punishment, Williams would frustrate him and probably stop him IMO. Williams has a good chin for such a lanky guy. When he gets in trouble he just drapes his arms over you or leans on you, its hard to get him down. I dont think he's been down yet...hmm I'll have to check that out.
DO NOT diss the Mayorga. He's the man. WTF has stickboy done? Outpointed Margarito by a little, without ever hurting him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
you calling PW stickboy? LOL haha ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
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[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucfDvJNyh14&feature=related[/yt]
That second one is accurate. Stickboy would have to kick Mayorga in the balls then run like hell if he wanted to win. Come to think of it though, he'd probably break his foot in the process seein as Mayorga's cojones are pure steel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya