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Juan Diaz-Michael Katsidis fight cancelled
Sucks. Don King apparently is getting in the way.
Diaz signed with King-you get what you deserve-and part of that was that King had to give permission for Diaz to fight if another promoter made the purse bid for one of his fights. Which Oscar did, making a real high offer apparently cause he wants Diaz when his contract with King ends sometime early next year I think.
King apparently is not budging, won't give Diaz permission.
HBO's already scrapped the Feb 9 date, apparently there's a chance it could still happen March 8 if they somehow worked out an agreement in the next week but this doesn't seem likely.
Its an article on another site. can't put a link.
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Wow, cue a heap of dissappointment.
Would King not get a whole heap of Money even if it was Oscar who initiated proceedings? I think Oscar has gottn what he wanted though as King is now seen to be holding Juan back, so Juan may well defect to Goldenboy.
I actually feel King has neglected Juan somewhat. Don has a legitimate p4p guy and instead of promoting and publicising him all his enrgy is in Trinida V Jones.
Don't understand Don's logic here at all.
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yeah I hope this just doesn't turn into some thing where Diaz is sidelined for a while till he can get out of his contract.
Cause I'm not exactly sure when he gets out of the contract.
In some ways maybe if this was put off for a year or so it wouldn't be bad, maybe Katsidis could get on HBO, get a bigger name, make it a bigger fight. But Katsidis with his cuts and face first style could lose to somebody he's not supposed to lose to between now and then.
As big a fan as I am of Diaz, he didn't have to sign with King, its just coming back on him.
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Well that f#cking sucks donkey nuts >:mad Maybe you're right and it is the best thing for Kats; but still I don't want to wait another year. Don King is a p.o.s. So who will Kats fight then most likely? Put one of them in with David Diaz and the other can get Casamayor gone.
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From what I've heard Katsidis looked at Santa Cruz but he wants another shot at Casa
So i don't know, maybe Diaz? Who knows if Diaz wants that.
What I'd like to see is Katsidis-Nate Campbell, that's a risky fight for Katsidis though.
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Campbell would be a risk, but he's in really the twilight of his career and not as risky IMO as a couple of years ago would have been. Would be a good win for Kats if he could get it against Nate. He will get tested though. Someone needs to check David though, and Kats/David Diaz would be a fun one to watch. Isn't Diaz fighting Soto soon?
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There was something on boxrec about that but that's all i've heard and boxrec isn't always right.
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The other side of the coin is that Katsidis can get anotrher one or two fights hopefully at world level in order to grab some much needed expierience before jumping in with Juan.
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Sucks, I hope King & Oscar can somehow work it out.
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damn... that could have a been a contender for fight of the year but hey it could be bigger in 2009 if katsidis makes some more defences
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Re: Juan Diaz-Michael Katsidis fight cancelled
Fights off according to boxingtalk and Diaz' manager, Willie Savannah.
HBO scrapped it once DK threatened legal action.
Savannah says King has to give them one more fight before the contracts up but he doesn't want any future options on it so I have no idea what's gonna happen, Diaz could be out for a while maybe.
They got themselves into it by signing with him, even though he's a favorite, I don't have much sympathy.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Fights off according to boxingtalk and Diaz' manager, Willie Savannah.
HBO scrapped it once DK threatened legal action.
Savannah says King has to give them one more fight before the contracts up but he doesn't want any future options on it so I have no idea what's gonna happen, Diaz could be out for a while maybe.
They got themselves into it by signing with him, even though he's a favorite, I don't have much sympathy.
When will fighters learn that DK in the end will bend you over. :beat:
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Hopefully the Don is just after a piece of the fight from Oscar, ot the promoter equivalent of step-aside money or something.
After a year of promoters actually working together to put good fights on it's almost refreshing to see a bit of normal service being resumed.
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I never gave Katsidis much of a chance anyway.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I never gave Katsidis much of a chance anyway.
So? Didn't you want to see the fight anyways? You never gave Hatton a chance either and look at the new avatar you have thanks to it happening ;D
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Could be a blessing in disguise for Katsidis. I am a huge fan of the guy but i think Diaz would be too much for him at the moment. I think he should make a couple of defenses, try and make a fight in oz, then look at Diaz in 18 months.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I never gave Katsidis much of a chance anyway.
So? Didn't you want to see the fight anyways? You never gave Hatton a chance either and look at the new avatar you have thanks to it happening ;D
Good point
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Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o >:mad
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Yes that was the howl of disappointment I had anticipated.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Sucks. Don King apparently is getting in the way.
Diaz signed with King-you get what you deserve-and part of that was that King had to give permission for Diaz to fight if another promoter made the purse bid for one of his fights. Which Oscar did, making a real high offer apparently cause he wants Diaz when his contract with King ends sometime early next year I think.
King apparently is not budging, won't give Diaz permission.
HBO's already scrapped the Feb 9 date, apparently there's a chance it could still happen March 8 if they somehow worked out an agreement in the next week but this doesn't seem likely.
Its an article on another site. can't put a link.
If King refuses to get out of the way, I assume Juan will be stripped of his WBO title and Kats will be promoted to full champ? I'm not sure where the WBO stand on this if it's not Juan's fault as he is willing to fight.
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thats a shame to hear. was looking forward to that fight
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Sucks. Don King apparently is getting in the way.
Diaz signed with King-you get what you deserve-and part of that was that King had to give permission for Diaz to fight if another promoter made the purse bid for one of his fights. Which Oscar did, making a real high offer apparently cause he wants Diaz when his contract with King ends sometime early next year I think.
King apparently is not budging, won't give Diaz permission.
HBO's already scrapped the Feb 9 date, apparently there's a chance it could still happen March 8 if they somehow worked out an agreement in the next week but this doesn't seem likely.
Its an article on another site. can't put a link.
If King refuses to get out of the way, I assume Juan will be stripped of his WBO title and Kats will be promoted to full champ? I'm not sure where the WBO stand on this if it's not Juan's fault as he is willing to fight.
don't know, hadn't thought about that, I would assume he would get stripped.
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on another site now it says Don King wants to make Juan's IBF mandatory against Nate Campbell ???
Not a bad fight, hopefully that gets Juan out of his contract and he can go to Oscar's company.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
on another site now it says Don King wants to make Juan's IBF mandatory against Nate Campbell ???
Not a bad fight, hopefully that gets Juan out of his contract and he can go to Oscar's company.
Yeah, Juan could be graet if he gets away from King. And he damn well should, because Juan is going to have a short career and King hasn't been publicising him enough.
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From what Dan Rafael reported, It sounds like Diaz is free from the King contract in March, and is free to take the fight. However, HBO only had the February date to offer them for the fight.
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Shame man woulda been a good fight with Diaz pretty comfortable, the sooner he gets away from king the better.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
on another site now it says Don King wants to make Juan's IBF mandatory against Nate Campbell ???
Not a bad fight, hopefully that gets Juan out of his contract and he can go to Oscar's company.
Uh oh looks like Juan pissed off Don, that is the hardest fight out there for Diaz IMO stylewise. De La Hoya is trying to court Juan, he reportedly put a big purse bid on the Kats fight and Don wasnt too happy. Could be some inactivity or hard fights ahead for Juan. Kind of confused on the purse bid thing doesnt King get dibs because his fighter is Diaz, or is Kats with GBP?
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This is shit for me and all the other fans :'(
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Well at least it's not a Margarito situation and he's out of contract by March