Floyd is Avoiding Someone-Not Cotto
I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
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I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
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I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
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I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
Williams could give Floyd some problems, the same way Judah, Hatton, Augustus, and Castillo gave him trouble at time. It might take Floyd a few rounds to figure out a solution to the puzzle, but I don't think Williams can win, and I don't think Williams has done enough for anybody to claim on his behalf that Floyd is ducking him.
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Originally Posted by uwey
I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou both had height and reach over Mayweather. Didn't do them any good
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Originally Posted by uwey
I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou both had height and reach over Mayweather. Didn't do them any good
Corrales and Ndou both had much shorter reach than Williams, plus those fights you mentioned where at Super Featherweight, and Lightweight, Mayweather was much better at those weights than he is now. Not saying he isn't fantastic now, but im just saying he had better footwork and he was a lot quicker at the lighter weights. I am big Mayweather fan but if anyone is going to beat Mayweather i believe it will be Williams, his work rate, reach, height, will give Mayweather big problems. And like i have said in the other thread's Williams uses angles very well on the inside and outside, he has a nice variety of punches to the body and head. Its 50/50 match up IMO.
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I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Where is this greatness of Williams?...Where is his one punch KO power that makes fighters fear getting in the ring with him?....Where is his lighting fast combinations that are blinding guys are afraid of being caught with?....His ultra slick ring movement?.....
Yes Williams is a tall guy with great reach and has a good work rate but I see nothing fighters should fear about him....
He beat Tony by a margin of 2 rds....2 rds that Toney threw away in the beginning of the fight...Not saying that Williams did not deserve the win because it was a good performance but he did not hand Margarito his ass....Tony is not the slickest fighter out there.....IMO a rematch if it took place right now Tony wins it...he knew what went wrong he stated it in the post fight interview....
Williams has some good wins and is a talented fighter but there is nothing fearful about him....Cotto and Mayweather are not Sharmba Mitchell or Walther Matthysse.....and Williams is no Tommy Hearns that will starch you the second his right hand lands flush....
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I think Williams is and will be the most avoided Welterweight for a while. I mean hes a machine, he cant crack much but he can keep throwing punches and score points and seems to have a good chin. I think he would give anyone problems because of his workrate and size alone.
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Mayweather wins a UD against Williams any time, any place!
It's twelve months off from happening anyway and there is no doubt a Cotto V Mayweather fight will occur first. Mayweather can handle any style of fighter he faces, the guy is a genius in the ring whether we like it or not.
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I honestly don't think Floyd is avoiding anyone. Williams would be a tough challenge stylistically but he is not a big enough name at the moment.
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What the hell has Williams done to deserve a shot at Floyd? Beat Margarito? Barely?
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What the hell has Williams done to deserve a shot at Floyd? Beat Margarito? Barely?
It's not like he is a challeger Hulk but he is one of the champions and that should earn him a shot at either other champion in the division, I would really like to see him fight Cotto and then the winner fight Floyd
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What the hell has Williams done to deserve a shot at Floyd? Beat Margarito? Barely?
It's not like he is a challeger Hulk but he is one of the champions and that should earn him a shot at either other champion in the division, I would really like to see him fight Cotto and then the winner fight Floyd
CC,I can agree with that BrazilianBomber.When a fighter has a title,he should definitely have the right to challenge the other champions,PW is no exception.
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What the hell has Williams done to deserve a shot at Floyd? Beat Margarito? Barely?
It's not like he is a challeger Hulk but he is one of the champions and that should earn him a shot at either other champion in the division, I would really like to see him fight Cotto and then the winner fight Floyd
CC,I can agree with that BrazilianBomber.When a fighter has a title,he should definitely have the right to challenge the other champions,PW is no exception.
PW needs one more bigtime win to give himself a case to fight Floyd. He has the right to challenge for other belts - Cintron or Cotto, but Floyd is really the "megachamp" from 140-154. Only Cotto has done enough to demand a shot at Floyd immediately. The rest need at least another big win. As much as I don't like Floyd personally, I agree with him that you need TWO big over big name guys to get a shot at him. Hatton had KT and JLC, and to a lesser degree Collazo because he managed to grab a share of the WW title when he did that. ODLH, 'nuff said, Judah was undisputed champ when the fight was signed, Baldy had Judah and Gatti. PW only has Tony at this point. The only guy who meets PBF's requirements as of this moment is Cotto, and Floyd will probably let Cotto vs Williams or Cotto vs Tony happen before jumping back in.
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I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou both had height and reach over Mayweather. Didn't do them any good
Corrales and Ndou both had much shorter reach than Williams, plus those fights you mentioned where at Super Featherweight, and Lightweight, Mayweather was much better at those weights than he is now. Not saying he isn't fantastic now, but im just saying he had better footwork and he was a lot quicker at the lighter weights. I am big Mayweather fan but if anyone is going to beat Mayweather i believe it will be Williams, his work rate, reach, height, will give Mayweather big problems. And like i have said in the other thread's Williams uses angles very well on the inside and outside, he has a nice variety of punches to the body and head. Its 50/50 match up IMO.
It doesn't matter if Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou had much shorter reach than Williams. They were longer than Mayweathers. And the they both had height over him. You said Williams would give Mayweather problems cuz of his height and reach. I say Mayweather has faced fighters with both reach and height over him. And he handled them pretty good. N'dou in fact had a similar style to Williams. He threw a lot of punches. And while he was game and held his own for a bit it was still a one-sided fight.
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Originally Posted by uwey
I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou both had height and reach over Mayweather. Didn't do them any good
Corrales and Ndou both had much shorter reach than Williams, plus those fights you mentioned where at Super Featherweight, and Lightweight, Mayweather was much better at those weights than he is now. Not saying he isn't fantastic now, but im just saying he had better footwork and he was a lot quicker at the lighter weights. I am big Mayweather fan but if anyone is going to beat Mayweather i believe it will be Williams, his work rate, reach, height, will give Mayweather big problems. And like i have said in the other thread's Williams uses angles very well on the inside and outside, he has a nice variety of punches to the body and head. Its 50/50 match up IMO.
It doesn't matter if Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou had much shorter reach than Williams. They were longer than Mayweathers. And the they both had height over him. You said Williams would give Mayweather problems cuz of his height and reach. I say Mayweather has faced fighters with both reach and height over him. And he handled them pretty good. N'dou in fact had a similar style to Williams. He threw a lot of punches. And while he was game and held his own for a bit it was still a one-sided fight.
I understand what your saying VD, and i agree but i don't think its just the reach and height, its the angles Williams uses on the outside and inside. The variety of punches he uses. Plus he puts his punches together much better than Ndou does IMO. Plus Williams has underrated boxing skills, it will be great to see Mayweather trying to solve Williams style.
While we are on the subject of Mayweather vs Ndou i got to tell you thats one of my favorite Mayweather fights. Because Ndou almost had 100 percent KO record and Mayweather stood toe to toe with Ndou and it was great fight. That 5th round was one of the rounds of the year.
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I dont believe Floyd is avoiding Cotto. I think its Williams. Cotto, Citron are avoid Williams for sure. Williams will set back a lot of careers. Citron would rather face Clottey and Cotto would rather face anyone but Paul. Just watched the Margo-Williams fight and I dont blame THEM. Paul is a Monster Fighter. Floyd,Cotto,Citron wont even mention his name. There Fans wont either.
Yeah, sure. Whoopty do!! The only guy Floyd is avoiding right not is his proctologist. I like Paul Williams, but he's not in the same class as Floyd. You can say that you would like to see that fight, but the only guy out there now with any claim to fight Floyd is Cotto. End of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd fight Williams a few years down the road at a higher weight division.
Williams may not be anywhere close to Mayweather in talent or skills but he has the height, reach, amongst other things to give Mayweather a lot of trouble.
Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou both had height and reach over Mayweather. Didn't do them any good
Corrales and Ndou both had much shorter reach than Williams, plus those fights you mentioned where at Super Featherweight, and Lightweight, Mayweather was much better at those weights than he is now. Not saying he isn't fantastic now, but im just saying he had better footwork and he was a lot quicker at the lighter weights. I am big Mayweather fan but if anyone is going to beat Mayweather i believe it will be Williams, his work rate, reach, height, will give Mayweather big problems. And like i have said in the other thread's Williams uses angles very well on the inside and outside, he has a nice variety of punches to the body and head. Its 50/50 match up IMO.
It doesn't matter if Diego Corrales and Phillip N'dou had much shorter reach than Williams. They were longer than Mayweathers. And the they both had height over him. You said Williams would give Mayweather problems cuz of his height and reach. I say Mayweather has faced fighters with both reach and height over him. And he handled them pretty good. N'dou in fact had a similar style to Williams. He threw a lot of punches. And while he was game and held his own for a bit it was still a one-sided fight.
I understand what your saying VD, and i agree but i don't think its just the reach and height, its the angles Williams uses on the outside and inside. The variety of punches he uses. Plus he puts his punches together much better than Ndou does IMO. Plus Williams has underrated boxing skills, it will be great to see Mayweather trying to solve Williams style.
While we are on the subject of Mayweather vs Ndou i got to tell you thats one of my favorite Mayweather fights. Because Ndou almost had 100 percent KO record and Mayweather stood toe to toe with Ndou and it was great fight. That 5th round was one of the rounds of the year.
Yes I agree Williams does put his punches together a lot better than N'dou did. And he's a better fighter than N'dou was. But I think Mayweather solves his style and beats him comfortably on points. Something along the lines of 116-112.
