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Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
Alot of people have not really shown alot of hype or interest for either of these fighters, but I believe they will meet sometime in 2010 for a mega matchup, I like Khan and after he is no longer green I think he will be a P4Per. It's time for the prospects to step up, they are the future.
Boxing's Future
Pavlik
P. Williams
Khan
Chavez Jr
Juan Diaz
Velero
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Khan needs to work on his footwork (not that he has bad footwork) and maybe think twice about just rushing in and pummeling his man.
I doubt you'll see Khan using some kind of fool proof defence mechanism so i think Khan need sto learn to controll fighters as well as just knocking em out. His power is coming along nicely, it seems.
Like Chavez, he's developing quite a big frame.
I think Chavez looks a little more composed. More variety too.
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If Khan stays at lightweight you can bet hes going to have a tough job in finding a title there. Juan Diaz will eventually get that WBC belt and then he will have them all. Khan-Diaz in about 4-5 years time would be awesome, but now Diaz would knock him out.
Im surprised Khan hasnt moved up and offered out Rees and try and nick a title there.
Chaves needs to fight some more oppostion, hes been sticking with not so good fighters and nearly got beat not that long ago. He has potential to do well but he should really be looking higher now.
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Alot of people have not really shown alot of hype or interest for either of these fighters, but I believe they will meet sometime in 2010 for a mega matchup, I like Khan and after he is no longer green I think he will be a P4Per. It's time for the prospects to step up, they are the future.
Boxing's Future
Pavlik
P. Williams
Khan
Chavez Jr
Juan Diaz
Velero
Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
If Juan Diaz moves up i can see Khan doing good things at Lightweight, as for Chavez Jr i would say no i don't see him being top 5 Welterweight's or beating any of the elite Welterweights.
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It wouldn't suprise me if Chavez fights at 154 within a couple of years
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I have to say Tam Seddon that makes complete sense.
He is always going on about being the youngest British champion ever blah blah blah. I to am suprised he hasn't tried to get a fight with Rees.
I would of thought Mr Calzaghe would probably prefer that fight over a load of others. However like someone else said frank warren has a thing for the WBO.
Most exciting prospect for me is Matt Skelton. It really would be something if he won a would title. LOL ;D
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Originally Posted by Wasp
I have to say Tam Seddon that makes complete sense.
He is always going on about being the youngest British champion ever blah blah blah. I to am suprised he hasn't tried to get a fight with Rees.
I would of thought Mr Calzaghe would probably prefer that fight over a load of others. However like someone else said frank warren has a thing for the WBO.
Most exciting prospect for me is Matt Skelton. It really would be something if he won a would title. LOL ;D
im surprised warren hasnt taken that opptuinty to be honest. He may just be keeping him at lightweight for a reason. i dont no.
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I think Kahn is well on his way to being the next best thing.
Been less impressed with Chavez but i suppose i should bare in mind his lack of any amatuer experience.....so maybe he's stil about 1 year away from being tested near the top....best to jugge him a little bit later.
I think Berto should be added to this list.
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Andre Berto is the most impressive of the talents ive seen. Ok his defence can be lackluster and open and he can make many mistakes....but at least theyre throwing him in with tough fighters who can crack which is testing him already and will ultimately make him learn quicker and a better fighter becuase of it. He has the speed, the power, the array of punches and obviously the determination to be a very good fighter....just needs to iron out a couple of flaws, which im sure he will, and he will be a force for sure. I do not think too much of Kahn right now becuase he seems to be fighting people who get KO'd after one hard punch and are scared of him.Im not saying Kahn doesnt have the talent, becuase he has tons of it, he just needs more tests against better opposition before hes a master talent many think him to be already. Chavez looks impressive from what ive seen aswell.
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"Mighty" Kevin Mitchell is a great boxer. I expect great things from him.
I believe in his current state could beat Kahn.
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I am sincerly scared to name any heavyweights that are the next big thing, they all end up being bust
Mt Whitaker
Dominic Guinn
Micheal Grant
Calvin Brock
etc
I believe Solis is next
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"Mighty" Kevin Mitchell is a great boxer. I expect great things from him.
I believe in his current state could beat Kahn.
It would be a good fight, but I just cant see Mitchell taking the pressure of Khan. He doesnt like come forward fighters like Khan. But he could catch him and end it. It would a good fight, close to call.
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Chaves needs to fight some more oppostion, hes been sticking with not so good fighters and nearly got beat not that long ago. He has potential to do well but he should really be looking higher now.
I agree but lets remember that Chavez jr. did not have an amateur career. Just straight to the pros which I can imagine it would be something challenging.
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Chaves needs to fight some more oppostion, hes been sticking with not so good fighters and nearly got beat not that long ago. He has potential to do well but he should really be looking higher now.
I agree but lets remember that Chavez jr. did not have an amateur career. Just straight to the pros which I can imagine it would be something challenging.
CC for that Chino I never knew that. Even so, I do expect him to up the pace a bit now. He has potential to do so. I feel he should just do it anyway and challenge a good fighter.. He has a good WBC ranking.
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con will be champion VD
He certainly will and Alfonso Gomez will KNFO of Chavez.
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean shit. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a shit belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a shit belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
A Warren fighter in a lot of good match ups? I'll believe it when I see it
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
A Warren fighter in a lot of good match ups? I'll believe it when I see it
Chavez Jnr has fought twice as many bums. Chavez ain't fought anyone.
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If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division.
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division.
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong.
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
A Warren fighter in a lot of good match ups? I'll believe it when I see it
He will have potential to do so in the future. Warren isnt that bad to be honest, I do admit he does protect a lot over his fighters. But he can make a good fight when needs be. Khan will get these fights soon.
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
A Warren fighter in a lot of good match ups? I'll believe it when I see it
Chavez Jnr has fought twice as many bums. Chavez ain't fought anyone.
Chavez no had amateur experience. It's been all on the job training for him. And he's doing pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Chino
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Chaves needs to fight some more oppostion, hes been sticking with not so good fighters and nearly got beat not that long ago. He has potential to do well but he should really be looking higher now.
I agree but lets remember that Chavez jr. did not have an amateur career. Just straight to the pros which I can imagine it would be something challenging.
CC for that Chino I never knew that. Even so, I do expect him to up the pace a bit now. He has potential to do so. I feel he should just do it anyway and challenge a good fighter.. He has a good WBC ranking.
Yeah dude 8) If he had the same rythm of a typical pro boxer he would technically be fighting for a title at fight #125 - 135 (that is, a typical amateur career of +100 fights and then 20 - 25 fights as a pro for a belt). We see he's fighting just fine as a pro with around 30 fights. Now imagine if he did have an amateur career (more than 100 fights).
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
A Warren fighter in a lot of good match ups? I'll believe it when I see it
Chavez Jnr has fought twice as many bums. Chavez ain't fought anyone.
Thats because Chavez Jr had no amateur fights so he is still learning his trade.
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there seem to be certain american fans on this forum who dont seem to like the face that US boxing anit to hot at the moment and British is on the up.. They dont like the fact that they dont seem to have to many prospects themselfs!
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
con will be champion VD
Wining the WBO or WBU title don't mean S***. Especially if it's given on a sliver platter like Warren does to all his fighters
WBO is a good belt, WBU is a S*** belt. Khan will get a major belt and do well in the future
WBO is a garbage belt and always has been. When a dead fighter can move up on the rankings you know that organization is a joke. If Con wins a vacant WBO title I will not be impress. Especially if he does it against some bum Warren scrapes up
I would be too, but to be honest its not all about having a belt. Manny Pac doesnt have one and look where he is now, I know its a totally differnt kettle of fish but still. As long as Khan fights some good fighters in the future who is actually bothered about a belt that says I am the best in that organizations opinion. In years to come Khan will get better and be in a lot of good match ups, im sure of this!
A Warren fighter in a lot of good match ups? I'll believe it when I see it
Chavez Jnr has fought twice as many bums. Chavez ain't fought anyone.
Thats because Chavez Jr had no amateur fights so he is still learning his trade.
still he needs to move up a bit now to be honest.
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
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Originally Posted by Wasp
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
He will come up with some other excuse you may as well give up ;D
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its is true though that belts just dont mean that much no more...
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As long as Papa Chavez has anything to do with it, Junior's unbeaten streak will continue to grow by feasting on "no-names." After all, Papa himself feasted on 40-some tomato cans before venturing out of Mexico to fight a real fighter. And then, with the 100-win mark within sight, he sought to fatten THAT record also by fighting some dubious competition. Yeah... a chip off the ol' block.
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I doubt very much that Chaves jr would be able to get away with beating 100 bums. but he needs to pick it all up now. We will see this year, i hope he can pick it. he needs to
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Originally Posted by Wasp
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
Roy Jones was the Super Middleweight ever. Anybody that considers Collins the best ever at anything doesn't know shit about boxing. You don't know shit about boxing
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
Roy Jones was the Super Middleweight ever. Anybody that considers Collins the best ever at anything doesn't know S*** about boxing. You don't know S*** about boxing
VD are you drunk too ? ' roy jones was the super middleweight ever ' ?????????????????????????????????? ;)
