Roberto Duran's Fights Which Ones Should I Watch ??

I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

Seems like you've hit most of the big ones, You could try Benitez, not one of his best performances though. I know for sure De Jesus 3 is out there, never seen 1. I assume his fight with Carlos Palomino's out there somewhere.

CutMeMick would know the best ones. Most if not all his big fights are out there,I have ALOT of his fights.Working my way through some of the more obscure ones now. Duran was amazing.

Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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That fight always reminds me of Tito vs Reid, Reid won title early like Moore. Them he faced vastly experienced champion aka Tito, just like Moore did with Duran. And they both were never the same after those fights but Reid was competitive with Tito for 6 rounds, Moore just got battered from the opening bell.

If you want to learn more about Duran, his book "Hands Of Stone" is a great read and really insightful into his career and life. It goes pretty in depth into a lot of the fights too. hes my favorite fighter of all time and I learned a lot about him from the book. As far as his fights. The rematch with DeJesus, and his fights vs. Carlos Palmino and the 1st Leonard fight are his best performances imo. Lampkin and Viruet were also good ones, and as far as all out wars go Duran-Barkley is as good as it gets. Just a vicious fight from start to finish.

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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That fight always reminds me of Tito vs Reid, Reid won title early like Moore. Them he faced vastly experienced champion aka Tito, just like Moore did with Duran. And they both were never the same after those fights but Reid was competitive with Tito for 6 rounds, Moore just got battered from the opening bell.

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Well in a way that was a do or die fight for Duran....Duran had a spoiled reputation from the No Mas fight....Plus he was getting up there in age and people were starting to say he was finished as a fighter.....(Remember at that time once you were in your 30's your career was pretty much winding down especially in the lower weight classes)...Duran made a statement that night....

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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The Moore fight falls into the category of what might have been. What might have happened if Duran hadn't thumbed Moore's eye closed early on? Moore was no slouch.

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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The Moore fight falls into the category of what might have been. What might have happened if Duran hadn't thumbed Moore's eye closed early on? Moore was no slouch.

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Moore was not winning that fight period...That was Durans night...the thumb is speculation

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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The Moore fight falls into the category of what might have been. What might have happened if Duran hadn't thumbed Moore's eye closed early on? Moore was no slouch.

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Moore was not winning that fight period...That was Durans night...the thumb is speculation

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The eye was closed since the early rounds. It was a significant handicap. Moore never had a chance. Looking back, I'm surprised they let the fight continue as long as they did. The significance of the victory was overstated.

As for the thumb being speculation, well it was entirely typical of a injury caused by a thumb, probably accidental. But it would be hard to prove a thumb caused it or not, I suppose.

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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The Moore fight falls into the category of what might have been. What might have happened if Duran hadn't thumbed Moore's eye closed early on? Moore was no slouch.

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Moore was not winning that fight period...That was Durans night...the thumb is speculation

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The eye was closed since the early rounds. It was a significant handicap. Moore never had a chance. Looking back, I'm surprised they let the fight continue as long as they did. The significance of the victory was overstated.

As for the thumb being speculation, well it was entirely typical of a injury caused by a thumb, probably accidental. But it would be hard to prove a thumb caused it or not, I suppose.

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I don't think it was that much of a factor, Moore was never in the fight anyway. He was just too inexperienced for someone like Duran.

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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The Moore fight falls into the category of what might have been. What might have happened if Duran hadn't thumbed Moore's eye closed early on? Moore was no slouch.

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Moore was not winning that fight period...That was Durans night...the thumb is speculation

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The eye was closed since the early rounds. It was a significant handicap. Moore never had a chance. Looking back, I'm surprised they let the fight continue as long as they did. The significance of the victory was overstated.

As for the thumb being speculation, well it was entirely typical of a injury caused by a thumb, probably accidental. But it would be hard to prove a thumb caused it or not, I suppose.

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I don't think it was that much of a factor, Moore was never in the fight anyway. He was just too inexperienced for someone like Duran.

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Yes Moore was never in the fight. I'd say the eye had something to do with that. Now if you are saying that having one eye closed since early in the fight is not much of a factor against a guy like Duran, well then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

If you want to say that Moore would have won anyway, well who knows? maybe you are right, maybe not. Moore was no slouch, ask Ayub Kalule, Wilfred Benitez,

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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That fight always reminds me of Tito vs Reid, Reid won title early like Moore. Them he faced vastly experienced champion aka Tito, just like Moore did with Duran. And they both were never the same after those fights but Reid was competitive with Tito for 6 rounds, Moore just got battered from the opening bell.

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CC. It always reminds me of the Tito vs. David Reid fight as well. Too much, Too soon.

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Pretty much as everyone said you got the big ones...I just watched the Davy Moore fight again yesterday....Duran put a one sided beating on that kid to say the least....

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That fight always reminds me of Tito vs Reid, Reid won title early like Moore. Them he faced vastly experienced champion aka Tito, just like Moore did with Duran. And they both were never the same after those fights but Reid was competitive with Tito for 6 rounds, Moore just got battered from the opening bell.

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CC. It always reminds me of the Tito vs. David Reid fight as well. Too much, Too soon.

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CC back Hulk.

If its a prime Duran your after, the greatest and most complete incarnation ever to grace the ring, then I suggest his third bout with Dejesus. This showcased Roberto at his absolute peak, it was in my estimations one of the most masterful displays of pugilistic wizardry ever seen.

A tier down would be the first leonard encounter, Palomino, also at Welter.

Lou Bizzaro at lightweight, Buchanan, Kobayashi.

In his later marauding days as a wise old lion, Barkley, Moore, Cuevas.

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez

I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

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Your missing out on some of his best performances.

For starters you HAVE to see all 3 of his fights against 'El Vita', to not see them would be like to not see Alis trilogy with Fraizer.
You have to understand where Duran opponents had been prior to facing him and where they went after.

Coming out Party: Ernesto Marcel - The name will not ring a bell right off the start but if you look closely Marcel was top contender in the Panamanian circuit by the time a 16-0 Duran met him. Duran boxed well all the way through and went on to stop Marcel in the last round. Marcel went on to become the WBA champ he made a couple of defense of his title in his last defense he defeated the 'great' Alexis Arguello. To me this is Durans coming out party where he showed early on that he could fight at a high level of skill.

Getting the BIG name: Hiroshi Kobayashi - A lot of up and coming prospects/contenders do this they look for a prominent name possibly a former world champ who will make their record look better. This was the case here when the 'Japanese great' Kobayashi stepped into the ring. Former WBA & WBC Super Feather champ. Hiroshi stood his ground there with Duran but the younger and faster Duran proved to be too much and stoped Hiroshi in devastating fashion. Duran established himself as one of the top contenders with this win.

Check Mate: Ken Buchanan - After the Hiroshi win Duran earned himself a shot at the Lightweight crown. One thing to keep in mind is that Ken was the WBC & WBA champ. Ken dropped the WBC title due to some politics. Ken won the WBA title from great Ismael Laguna (yet another Panamania)
Ismael is IMO rated somewhere in the top 10 Lightweights all time. Ken beat Ismael twice, Ismael himself fought 3 of the best Lightweights around. Ismael beat argueably the greatest lightweight Carlos Ortiz once and lost twice. He also defeated Mando Ramos & Guts Ishimatsu. So keep that in mind when you watch Duran vs. Ken. Duran wins and thus crowning himself WBA champ.

They Meet: 'El Vita' I, II & III - To not see Durans trilogy with El Vita is to be missing a great deal of Durans skills. The 1st meeting, Duran stepped in the ring against El Vita and was droped in the 1st round. The rest of that fight was fought at a pace which was mostly dictated by him. Duran went on to loose what had been a perfect career. The 2nd fight, by the time they met El Vita had earned himself a shot at the title (which Duran had won from Ken) when he beat Lampkin for the NABF title. Surprise! Surprise! Duran hits the canvas again in the 1st round but comes back strong. The pace of this fights was crazy and you just couldn't see it going to the cards. Duran returns the favor along the way and drops El Vita. Duran goes on to stop him late in fight and retains his title. The 3rd and final meeting, when they met for the 3rd time El Vita had become the WBC lightweight champ and was working on his 4th defense of the title. This was a unification bout Duran beats El Vita yet again in another great battle and reigns supreme there. This final bout for me showed his greatness to overcome a fighter who had beaten once and dropped him twice in their 2 previous meetings. It was Durans signature win IMO and what makes him one of the greatest Lightweights all time and one P4P one of th greatest fighters all time.

I can't stress it enough 'tho people need to be more careful when commenting on fighters whom they haven't seen all that much on. You have listed there 12 fights out of 119 that he fought. I'm not saying see them all but you gotta see more then that. I like your enthusiasm about wanting to learn about great fighters but sometimes you go a little overboard when trying to analyze a fighters career and or opponents. It's easy to look for recognizable names but sometimes theres some who don't stand out that are there and have some type of print.
Good luck on your search for the fights.
(I'm still working on your fight ;) )

Other Must See Fights: Guts Ishimatsu, Hector Thompson, Carlos Palomino, Lou Bizzarro, Ray Lampkin and Wilfred Benitez.

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I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
:appl:Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

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Your missing out on some of his best performances.

For starters you HAVE to see all 3 of his fights against 'El Vita', to not see them would be like to not see Alis trilogy with Fraizer.
You have to understand where Duran opponents had been prior to facing him and where they went after.

Coming out Party: Ernesto Marcel - The name will not ring a bell right off the start but if you look closely Marcel was top contender in the Panamanian circuit by the time a 16-0 Duran met him. Duran boxed well all the way through and went on to stop Marcel in the last round. Marcel went on to become the WBA champ he made a couple of defense of his title in his last defense he defeated the 'great' Alexis Arguello. To me this is Durans coming out party where he showed early on that he could fight at a high level of skill.

Getting the BIG name: Hiroshi Kobayashi - A lot of up and coming prospects/contenders do this they look for a prominent name possibly a former world champ who will make their record look better. This was the case here when the 'Japanese great' Kobayashi stepped into the ring. Former WBA & WBC Super Feather champ. Hiroshi stood his ground there with Duran but the younger and faster Duran proved to be too much and stoped Hiroshi in devastating fashion. Duran established himself as one of the top contenders with this win.

Check Mate: Ken Buchanan - After the Hiroshi win Duran earned himself a shot at the Lightweight crown. One thing to keep in mind is that Ken was the WBC & WBA champ. Ken dropped the WBC title due to some politics. Ken won the WBA title from great Ismael Laguna (yet another Panamania)
Ismael is IMO rated somewhere in the top 10 Lightweights all time. Ken beat Ismael twice, Ismael himself fought 3 of the best Lightweights around. Ismael beat argueably the greatest lightweight Carlos Ortiz once and lost twice. He also defeated Mando Ramos & Guts Ishimatsu. So keep that in mind when you watch Duran vs. Ken. Duran wins and thus crowning himself WBA champ.

They Meet: 'El Vita' I, II & III - To not see Durans trilogy with El Vita is to be missing a great deal of Durans skills. The 1st meeting, Duran stepped in the ring against El Vita and was droped in the 1st round. The rest of that fight was fought at a pace which was mostly dictated by him. Duran went on to loose what had been a perfect career. The 2nd fight, by the time they met El Vita had earned himself a shot at the title (which Duran had won from Ken) when he beat Lampkin for the NABF title. Surprise! Surprise! Duran hits the canvas again in the 1st round but comes back strong. The pace of this fights was crazy and you just couldn't see it going to the cards. Duran returns the favor along the way and drops El Vita. Duran goes on to stop him late in fight and retains his title. The 3rd and final meeting, when they met for the 3rd time El Vita had become the WBC lightweight champ and was working on his 4th defense of the title. This was a unification bout Duran beats El Vita yet again in another great battle and reigns supreme there. This final bout for me showed his greatness to overcome a fighter who had beaten once and dropped him twice in their 2 previous meetings. It was Durans signature win IMO and what makes him one of the greatest Lightweights all time and one P4P one of th greatest fighters all time.

I can't stress it enough 'tho people need to be more careful when commenting on fighters whom they haven't seen all that much on. You have listed there 12 fights out of 119 that he fought. I'm not saying see them all but you gotta see more then that. I like your enthusiasm about wanting to learn about great fighters but sometimes you go a little overboard when trying to analyze a fighters career and or opponents. It's easy to look for recognizable names but sometimes theres some who don't stand out that are there and have some type of print.
Good luck on your search for the fights.
(I'm still working on your fight ;) )

Other Must See Fights: Guts Ishimatsu, Hector Thompson, Carlos Palomino, Lou Bizzarro, Ray Lampkin and Wilfred Benitez.

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Anyone told you that as of late,you have been posting some real awesome stuff. That's one of the best responses I've ever read in my time at Saddo's,and I've ben here a while,which is saying something. Have a well earned CC on me. :appl: :banllama: :Bannanalick: :banana: :coolclick: :coolclick: :clap:

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Anyone told you that as of late,you have been posting some real awesome stuff. That's one of the best responses I've ever read in my time at Saddo's,and I've ben here a while,which is saying something. Have a well earned CC on me. :appl: :banllama: :Bannanalick: :banana: :coolclick: :coolclick: :clap:

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Yeah! You just did. :D

Thanks Gamo for the comments. You know the score Gamo.
CC#2258 on me. :)

Thanks Mick CC i was looking for trilogy of De Jesus and Duran couldn't find it. And also i was hoping you would look at the Duran thread i done yesterday.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,56510.0.html

I can't find Duran vs De Jesus 1 or 3 sadly, but i watched Roberto Duran's beyond the glory. That was amazing documentary really enjoyed it, i also just watched Duran spark our Alvaro Rojas in 1 round. That poor guy was flat on his face out cold brutal KO.

But im starting to enjoy Duran more now, the only problem is Mick is that a lot of his fights in download section are fights i've already got. So maybe i'll get his career set or something.

I think the most underestimated performance by Duran was against Haglar, The Marvellous one was in his prime and Duran went up 2 his weight and gave him hell 4 15 rounds :o

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I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

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If you've wached all the above you could also try the following:

Roberto Duran vs Ray Lampkin
Roberto Duran vs Hector Thompson
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 3
Roberto Duran vs Carlos Palomino
Roberto Duran vs Joseph Nsbuga
Roberto Duran vs Ernesto Marcel
Roberto Duran vs H Kobayashi
Roberto Duran vs L Bizzaro

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If you want to learn more about Duran, his book "Hands Of Stone" is a great read and really insightful into his career and life. It goes pretty in depth into a lot of the fights too. hes my favorite fighter of all time and I learned a lot about him from the book. As far as his fights. The rematch with DeJesus, and his fights vs. Carlos Palmino and the 1st Leonard fight are his best performances imo. Lampkin and Viruet were also good ones, and as far as all out wars go Duran-Barkley is as good as it gets. Just a vicious fight from start to finish.

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I have the book Hands of Stone, when I met Duran very recently, he said the book is not a true insight into his fights etc this book was simply based on an interview.

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If its a prime Duran your after, the greatest and most complete incarnation ever to grace the ring, then I suggest his third bout with Dejesus. This showcased Roberto at his absolute peak, it was in my estimations one of the most masterful displays of pugilistic wizardry ever seen.

A tier down would be the first leonard encounter, Palomino, also at Welter.

Lou Bizzaro at lightweight, Buchanan, Kobayashi.

In his later marauding days as a wise old lion, Barkley, Moore, Cuevas.

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez

I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

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Your missing out on some of his best performances.

For starters you HAVE to see all 3 of his fights against 'El Vita', to not see them would be like to not see Alis trilogy with Fraizer.
You have to understand where Duran opponents had been prior to facing him and where they went after.

Coming out Party: Ernesto Marcel - The name will not ring a bell right off the start but if you look closely Marcel was top contender in the Panamanian circuit by the time a 16-0 Duran met him. Duran boxed well all the way through and went on to stop Marcel in the last round. Marcel went on to become the WBA champ he made a couple of defense of his title in his last defense he defeated the 'great' Alexis Arguello. To me this is Durans coming out party where he showed early on that he could fight at a high level of skill.

Getting the BIG name: Hiroshi Kobayashi - A lot of up and coming prospects/contenders do this they look for a prominent name possibly a former world champ who will make their record look better. This was the case here when the 'Japanese great' Kobayashi stepped into the ring. Former WBA & WBC Super Feather champ. Hiroshi stood his ground there with Duran but the younger and faster Duran proved to be too much and stoped Hiroshi in devastating fashion. Duran established himself as one of the top contenders with this win.

Check Mate: Ken Buchanan - After the Hiroshi win Duran earned himself a shot at the Lightweight crown. One thing to keep in mind is that Ken was the WBC & WBA champ. Ken dropped the WBC title due to some politics. Ken won the WBA title from great Ismael Laguna (yet another Panamania)
Ismael is IMO rated somewhere in the top 10 Lightweights all time. Ken beat Ismael twice, Ismael himself fought 3 of the best Lightweights around. Ismael beat argueably the greatest lightweight Carlos Ortiz once and lost twice. He also defeated Mando Ramos & Guts Ishimatsu. So keep that in mind when you watch Duran vs. Ken. Duran wins and thus crowning himself WBA champ.

They Meet: 'El Vita' I, II & III - To not see Durans trilogy with El Vita is to be missing a great deal of Durans skills. The 1st meeting, Duran stepped in the ring against El Vita and was droped in the 1st round. The rest of that fight was fought at a pace which was mostly dictated by him. Duran went on to loose what had been a perfect career. The 2nd fight, by the time they met El Vita had earned himself a shot at the title (which Duran had won from Ken) when he beat Lampkin for the NABF title. Surprise! Surprise! Duran hits the canvas again in the 1st round but comes back strong. The pace of this fights was crazy and you just couldn't see it going to the cards. Duran returns the favor along the way and drops El Vita. Duran goes on to stop him late in fight and retains his title. The 3rd and final meeting, when they met for the 3rd time El Vita had become the WBC lightweight champ and was working on his 4th defense of the title. This was a unification bout Duran beats El Vita yet again in another great battle and reigns supreme there. This final bout for me showed his greatness to overcome a fighter who had beaten once and dropped him twice in their 2 previous meetings. It was Durans signature win IMO and what makes him one of the greatest Lightweights all time and one P4P one of th greatest fighters all time.

I can't stress it enough 'tho people need to be more careful when commenting on fighters whom they haven't seen all that much on. You have listed there 12 fights out of 119 that he fought. I'm not saying see them all but you gotta see more then that. I like your enthusiasm about wanting to learn about great fighters but sometimes you go a little overboard when trying to analyze a fighters career and or opponents. It's easy to look for recognizable names but sometimes theres some who don't stand out that are there and have some type of print.
Good luck on your search for the fights.
(I'm still working on your fight ;) )

Other Must See Fights: Guts Ishimatsu, Hector Thompson, Carlos Palomino, Lou Bizzarro, Ray Lampkin and Wilfred Benitez.

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CC from me, I have every single Duran fight apart from the one against Joppy, becuase I don't want it.

I agree with your comments.

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I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

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Your missing out on some of his best performances.

For starters you HAVE to see all 3 of his fights against 'El Vita', to not see them would be like to not see Alis trilogy with Fraizer.
You have to understand where Duran opponents had been prior to facing him and where they went after.

Coming out Party: Ernesto Marcel - The name will not ring a bell right off the start but if you look closely Marcel was top contender in the Panamanian circuit by the time a 16-0 Duran met him. Duran boxed well all the way through and went on to stop Marcel in the last round. Marcel went on to become the WBA champ he made a couple of defense of his title in his last defense he defeated the 'great' Alexis Arguello. To me this is Durans coming out party where he showed early on that he could fight at a high level of skill.

Getting the BIG name: Hiroshi Kobayashi - A lot of up and coming prospects/contenders do this they look for a prominent name possibly a former world champ who will make their record look better. This was the case here when the 'Japanese great' Kobayashi stepped into the ring. Former WBA & WBC Super Feather champ. Hiroshi stood his ground there with Duran but the younger and faster Duran proved to be too much and stoped Hiroshi in devastating fashion. Duran established himself as one of the top contenders with this win.

Check Mate: Ken Buchanan - After the Hiroshi win Duran earned himself a shot at the Lightweight crown. One thing to keep in mind is that Ken was the WBC & WBA champ. Ken dropped the WBC title due to some politics. Ken won the WBA title from great Ismael Laguna (yet another Panamania)
Ismael is IMO rated somewhere in the top 10 Lightweights all time. Ken beat Ismael twice, Ismael himself fought 3 of the best Lightweights around. Ismael beat argueably the greatest lightweight Carlos Ortiz once and lost twice. He also defeated Mando Ramos & Guts Ishimatsu. So keep that in mind when you watch Duran vs. Ken. Duran wins and thus crowning himself WBA champ.

They Meet: 'El Vita' I, II & III - To not see Durans trilogy with El Vita is to be missing a great deal of Durans skills. The 1st meeting, Duran stepped in the ring against El Vita and was droped in the 1st round. The rest of that fight was fought at a pace which was mostly dictated by him. Duran went on to loose what had been a perfect career. The 2nd fight, by the time they met El Vita had earned himself a shot at the title (which Duran had won from Ken) when he beat Lampkin for the NABF title. Surprise! Surprise! Duran hits the canvas again in the 1st round but comes back strong. The pace of this fights was crazy and you just couldn't see it going to the cards. Duran returns the favor along the way and drops El Vita. Duran goes on to stop him late in fight and retains his title. The 3rd and final meeting, when they met for the 3rd time El Vita had become the WBC lightweight champ and was working on his 4th defense of the title. This was a unification bout Duran beats El Vita yet again in another great battle and reigns supreme there. This final bout for me showed his greatness to overcome a fighter who had beaten once and dropped him twice in their 2 previous meetings. It was Durans signature win IMO and what makes him one of the greatest Lightweights all time and one P4P one of th greatest fighters all time.

I can't stress it enough 'tho people need to be more careful when commenting on fighters whom they haven't seen all that much on. You have listed there 12 fights out of 119 that he fought. I'm not saying see them all but you gotta see more then that. I like your enthusiasm about wanting to learn about great fighters but sometimes you go a little overboard when trying to analyze a fighters career and or opponents. It's easy to look for recognizable names but sometimes theres some who don't stand out that are there and have some type of print.
Good luck on your search for the fights.
(I'm still working on your fight ;) )

Other Must See Fights: Guts Ishimatsu, Hector Thompson, Carlos Palomino, Lou Bizzarro, Ray Lampkin and Wilfred Benitez.

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CC from me, I have every single Duran fight apart from the one against Joppy, becuase I don't want it.

I agree with your comments.

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I have every single Duran fight apart from the one against Joppy

Where did you get his fights from ??

From my suppliers, I've been buying Boxing and Sport from a very early age!

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I had a debate yesterday with a couple of members, and i want to learn more about Duran and watch his fights, i have downloaded Duran beyond the glory and i will get round to watching that. But what fights would you recommend watching ?? i have seen these.

Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1 2 3
Roberto Duran vs Esteban De Jesus 2
Roberto Duran vs Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore
Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley
Roberto Duran vs Robbie Simms
Roberto Duran vs Kirkland Laing
Roberto Duran vs Pipino Cuevas

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Your missing out on some of his best performances.

For starters you HAVE to see all 3 of his fights against 'El Vita', to not see them would be like to not see Alis trilogy with Fraizer.
You have to understand where Duran opponents had been prior to facing him and where they went after.

Coming out Party: Ernesto Marcel - The name will not ring a bell right off the start but if you look closely Marcel was top contender in the Panamanian circuit by the time a 16-0 Duran met him. Duran boxed well all the way through and went on to stop Marcel in the last round. Marcel went on to become the WBA champ he made a couple of defense of his title in his last defense he defeated the 'great' Alexis Arguello. To me this is Durans coming out party where he showed early on that he could fight at a high level of skill.

Getting the BIG name: Hiroshi Kobayashi - A lot of up and coming prospects/contenders do this they look for a prominent name possibly a former world champ who will make their record look better. This was the case here when the 'Japanese great' Kobayashi stepped into the ring. Former WBA & WBC Super Feather champ. Hiroshi stood his ground there with Duran but the younger and faster Duran proved to be too much and stoped Hiroshi in devastating fashion. Duran established himself as one of the top contenders with this win.

Check Mate: Ken Buchanan - After the Hiroshi win Duran earned himself a shot at the Lightweight crown. One thing to keep in mind is that Ken was the WBC & WBA champ. Ken dropped the WBC title due to some politics. Ken won the WBA title from great Ismael Laguna (yet another Panamania)
Ismael is IMO rated somewhere in the top 10 Lightweights all time. Ken beat Ismael twice, Ismael himself fought 3 of the best Lightweights around. Ismael beat argueably the greatest lightweight Carlos Ortiz once and lost twice. He also defeated Mando Ramos & Guts Ishimatsu. So keep that in mind when you watch Duran vs. Ken. Duran wins and thus crowning himself WBA champ.

They Meet: 'El Vita' I, II & III - To not see Durans trilogy with El Vita is to be missing a great deal of Durans skills. The 1st meeting, Duran stepped in the ring against El Vita and was droped in the 1st round. The rest of that fight was fought at a pace which was mostly dictated by him. Duran went on to loose what had been a perfect career. The 2nd fight, by the time they met El Vita had earned himself a shot at the title (which Duran had won from Ken) when he beat Lampkin for the NABF title. Surprise! Surprise! Duran hits the canvas again in the 1st round but comes back strong. The pace of this fights was crazy and you just couldn't see it going to the cards. Duran returns the favor along the way and drops El Vita. Duran goes on to stop him late in fight and retains his title. The 3rd and final meeting, when they met for the 3rd time El Vita had become the WBC lightweight champ and was working on his 4th defense of the title. This was a unification bout Duran beats El Vita yet again in another great battle and reigns supreme there. This final bout for me showed his greatness to overcome a fighter who had beaten once and dropped him twice in their 2 previous meetings. It was Durans signature win IMO and what makes him one of the greatest Lightweights all time and one P4P one of th greatest fighters all time.

I can't stress it enough 'tho people need to be more careful when commenting on fighters whom they haven't seen all that much on. You have listed there 12 fights out of 119 that he fought. I'm not saying see them all but you gotta see more then that. I like your enthusiasm about wanting to learn about great fighters but sometimes you go a little overboard when trying to analyze a fighters career and or opponents. It's easy to look for recognizable names but sometimes theres some who don't stand out that are there and have some type of print.
Good luck on your search for the fights.
(I'm still working on your fight ;) )

Other Must See Fights: Guts Ishimatsu, Hector Thompson, Carlos Palomino, Lou Bizzarro, Ray Lampkin and Wilfred Benitez.

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CC from me, I have every single Duran fight apart from the one against Joppy, becuase I don't want it.

I agree with your comments.

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CC#35 and thanks for the comment.

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If you want to learn more about Duran, his book "Hands Of Stone" is a great read and really insightful into his career and life. It goes pretty in depth into a lot of the fights too. hes my favorite fighter of all time and I learned a lot about him from the book. As far as his fights. The rematch with DeJesus, and his fights vs. Carlos Palmino and the 1st Leonard fight are his best performances imo. Lampkin and Viruet were also good ones, and as far as all out wars go Duran-Barkley is as good as it gets. Just a vicious fight from start to finish.

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I have the book Hands of Stone, when I met Duran very recently, he said the book is not a true insight into his fights etc this book was simply based on an interview.

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Wow thats dissapointing :( Im Curious to know what things were different than in the book