Street fights\ Backyard brawls

Boys and Girls we need to try and quash these threads before they get started, they are not what this board is about at all, whatever your discipline it isn't intended to be used in a backyard or in a street fight, at least not the kind of streetfighting that often gets mentioned. I understand the importance of being able to defend yourself and thats what gyms and classes are for, they are not, and neither is this board, a quick solution to a school bully or way to win illegal fights on parking lots.

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Memphis

Sorry :) I understand that this is a boxing forum. I shouldn't have asked that question.I'm not the type that likes violence anyway. Sorry Memphis I'm leaving this forum anyway I think I've upset :'( a lot of people. Thankx to the people who answered my questions and thanks MEMPHIS for the links they are good.

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Dont feel that you have to leave, and dont think that the post was directed at you as it wasnt, if you look back through the pages you will see this subject brought up alot by different people, why dont you stick around, read the learn to box article, browse through some older posts and then take it from there, there are plenty of people here who can help you in all sorts of areas, dont give up before you get started.

I agree with Memphis, this board shouldn't be used to discuss illegal fighting and stuff like that. However, if you are having bulley problems and are not a member of a boxing gym or anything like that, I don't see a problem with explaining your situation and asking for advice.

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However, if you are having bulley problems and are not a member of a boxing gym or anything like that, I don't see a problem with explaining your situation and asking for advice.

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I sympathise if someone has that problem but is that really what the training forum is for?

theres nothing on the board you can learn about fighting a street fight. Im sure there are lots of people on here (like me) who have been in them and realize how different they are from boxing. In boxing, if you knock a guy down, you don't put the boots to his kidneys while he's laying there.. like you would in a street fight, cause you never know who has a gun. Learn to box, and then if street fights happen, use your fighting knowledge to protect your ass. But when it comes down to it.. in a street fight, your fighting for your life. So your gonna use your survival insticts anyways.

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Originally Posted by DMD

However, if you are having bulley problems and are not a member of a boxing gym or anything like that, I don't see a problem with explaining your situation and asking for advice.

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I sympathise if someone has that problem but is that really what the training forum is for?

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It should be alright for someone to post a topic once every now and then, but not a whole bunch of topics. ;)

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Boys and Girls we need to try and quash these threads before they get started, they are not what this board is about at all, whatever your discipline it isn't intended to be used in a backyard or in a street fight, at least not the kind of streetfighting that often gets mentioned. I understand the importance of being able to defend yourself and thats what gyms and classes are for, they are not, and neither is this board, a quick solution to a school bully or way to win illegal fights on parking lots.

Regards
Memphis

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These kinds of questions have been coming to the forum since the board started and if we can shed light on people who need to ask a question such events, so be it. It is no good repressing information when it might save people lives etc

Well what some people here need to realise is that not everyone lives in a big city and some of us dont have access to boxing training. You cant train with a gym when there is no gym around that does boxing. I think if people here need help with a street fight situation, we should help them.

Yeah I think I overdid it with the topics. I should ask my trainer this. Its just my muay thai class isn't like a gym. We have gradings, kickshields, focus mitts and speedballs but no heavybags. And sometimes I think the class is either too advanced and sometimes its too easy. He doesn't really tell us about the different ranges footwork etc. He mainly just tells us which combos to do and then we do them. There are no boxing gyms in my area because I live in the country. Thats why I ask all these questions.

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Yeah I think I overdid it with the topics. I should ask my trainer this. Its just my muay thai class isn't like a gym. We have gradings, kickshields, focus mitts and speedballs but no heavybags. And sometimes I think the class is either too advanced and sometimes its too easy. He doesn't really tell us about the different ranges footwork etc. He mainly just tells us which combos to do and then we do them. There are no boxing gyms in my area because I live in the country. Thats why I ask all these questions.

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See mate thats my point. I live in the country and the only place that teaches boxing has just stopped teaching boxing coz the guy who trains the boxers has quit. I think some ppl need to realise that not everyone has access to some of these facilities.

Its not about having facilities, its the difference between....

"I don't live near a gym, what training can I do"

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"This dude in school is talking shit, how can I pound him"

This is a boxing forum, street fighting is not boxing, its quick and its dirty and in most cases it loses anything resembling proper technique after the first punch is thrown, if anyone wants to offer the kind of advice that would be usefull in that situation thats fine, but instead of dressing it up as "potentially life saving" also think of it as potentially life ending. In my opinion the only way to keep a clear conscience is to not get involved.

Ive never been in a situation where I thought for a minute my life was in danger, but if anyone here has and fancies assuming the role of forum expert in such situations then carry on, just remember to be as forthcoming when little Johhny Nobrains punches some dude in the throat and kills him just because he talked smack to him in the playground.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Its not about having facilities, its the difference between....

"I don't live near a gym, what training can I do"

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"This dude in school is talking shit, how can I pound him"

This is a boxing forum, street fighting is not boxing, its quick and its dirty and in most cases it loses anything resembling proper technique after the first punch is thrown, if anyone wants to offer the kind of advice that would be usefull in that situation thats fine, but instead of dressing it up as "potentially life saving" also think of it as potentially life ending. In my opinion the only way to keep a clear conscience is to not get involved.

Ive never been in a situation where I thought for a minute my life was in danger, but if anyone here has and fancies assuming the role of forum expert in such situations then carry on, just remember to be as forthcoming when little Johhny Nobrains punches some dude in the throat and kills him just because he talked smack to him in the playground.

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Hey well what about this. Some guy wants to beat the shit out of you coz he just doesnt like you and you didnt even want to fight him but he says hes gonna bash you after school by himself or another time with his mates situation. I know this situation well coz i believe it was one of my first posts. By the way i ened up beating the shit out of him when he tryed to bash me after school.....even after he was expelled.

good one snakey!!!! I agree that this isn't a streetfighting forum but everyone at my school knows I do muay thai and if i get beaten up it would be embarrasing because like you said memphis streetfighting is different and people expect I'm a good fighter but anyone can get their butt kicked in a streetfight. I just wanted to know so if someone taps me on the shoulder and I turn around and he hits me I can knock him out.

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good one snakey!!!! I agree that this isn't a streetfighting forum but everyone at my school knows I do muay thai and if i get beaten up it would be embarrasing because like you said memphis streetfighting is different and people expect I'm a good fighter but anyone can get their butt kicked in a streetfight. I just wanted to know so if someone taps me on the shoulder and I turn around and he hits me I can knock him out.

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give it your best shot, you do this :boxing2: and he'll do this :'( and he'll end up like this :stars:

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good one snakey!!!! I agree that this isn't a streetfighting forum but everyone at my school knows I do muay thai and if i get beaten up it would be embarrasing because like you said memphis streetfighting is different and people expect I'm a good fighter but anyone can get their butt kicked in a streetfight. I just wanted to know so if someone taps me on the shoulder and I turn around and he hits me I can knock him out.

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Yeah mate, this guy didnt like me and everyone expected me to be able to beat the shit out of anyone since i did karate and am doing boxing. The guy just kept swinging at my head......hit me with a few (i would like to thank adrenaline ;D)......when i wasnt looking, the fucking coward. I turned around and got hit some more and then started throwing punches like crazy and looked like i broke his nose. When he hit the ground i jumped onto him and hit him with some big punches to the ribs and face to make sure he was done. Suspended for 3 days, well worth it really........plus none of those dick heads have bothered me again.

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good one snakey!!!! I agree that this isn't a streetfighting forum but everyone at my school knows I do muay thai and if i get beaten up it would be embarrasing because like you said memphis streetfighting is different and people expect I'm a good fighter but anyone can get their butt kicked in a streetfight. I just wanted to know so if someone taps me on the shoulder and I turn around and he hits me I can knock him out.

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Yeah mate, this guy didnt like me and everyone expected me to be able to beat the s*** out of anyone since i did karate and am doing boxing. The guy just kept swinging at my head......hit me with a few (i would like to thank adrenaline ;D)......when i wasnt looking, the f***ing coward. I turned around and got hit some more and then started throwing punches like crazy and looked like i broke his nose. When he hit the ground i jumped onto him and hit him with some big punches to the ribs and face to make sure he was done. Suspended for 3 days, well worth it really........plus none of those dick heads have bothered me again.

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nice one snakey, have a :coolclick: for that ;)

i've got a bit of a story to tell you lot, my mate was standing at a bus stop and four older lads came over to him and pushed him to the floor, my mate stood up and headbutted one of them, he broke his jaw and paralised them, now the're in a wheelchair, but you cannot say they didn't ask for it ;D

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good one snakey!!!! I agree that this isn't a streetfighting forum but everyone at my school knows I do muay thai and if i get beaten up it would be embarrasing because like you said memphis streetfighting is different and people expect I'm a good fighter but anyone can get their butt kicked in a streetfight. I just wanted to know so if someone taps me on the shoulder and I turn around and he hits me I can knock him out.

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Yeah mate, this guy didnt like me and everyone expected me to be able to beat the s*** out of anyone since i did karate and am doing boxing. The guy just kept swinging at my head......hit me with a few (i would like to thank adrenaline ;D)......when i wasnt looking, the f***ing coward. I turned around and got hit some more and then started throwing punches like crazy and looked like i broke his nose. When he hit the ground i jumped onto him and hit him with some big punches to the ribs and face to make sure he was done. Suspended for 3 days, well worth it really........plus none of those dick heads have bothered me again.

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nice one snakey, have a :coolclick: for that ;)

i've got a bit of a story to tell you lot, my mate was standing at a bus stop and four older lads came over to him and pushed him to the floor, my mate stood up and headbutted one of them, he broke his jaw and paralised them, now the're in a wheelchair, but you cannot say they didn't ask for it ;D

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;D nice story mate. I got one about one of my mates fighting a guy in the yr below us. This guy called my friends chick a whore (she actually is and he dumped her 3 months later) so my mate poured milk all over his head. Now this guy had to be 6'2 and probably weighed a 100 and something kilos and my mate is only about 5'10 and probably 70 or 80 kilos. Well anyway this guy got up and hit my mate with about 12 punches to the face and then me mate just turned around and smashed him back with about 4 punches and dropped him. The fight was great....... i was standing next to the guy when he got dropped and i slapped him on the back and said "take that ya fucking peice of shit" ;D - this guy that my friend belted just happened to be a mate of the guy i gave a flogging.

nice one snakey ;) , have another :coolclick: for that, you you got any good video's of fights????

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nice one snakey ;) , have another :coolclick: for that, you you got any good video's of fights????

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Nah unfortunately......some guy got a bit of my fight on his phone.......it circulated around the school for a while but i didnt have the phone for it . Ahhhhhh but i will always remember my first and only fight............the other guy might not coz i gave him a pretty good beating ;D

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Boys and Girls we need to try and quash these threads before they get started, they are not what this board is about at all, whatever your discipline it isn't intended to be used in a backyard or in a street fight, at least not the kind of streetfighting that often gets mentioned. I understand the importance of being able to defend yourself and thats what gyms and classes are for, they are not, and neither is this board, a quick solution to a school bully or way to win illegal fights on parking lots.

Regards
Memphis

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These kinds of questions have been coming to the forum since the board started and if we can shed light on people who need to ask a question such events, so be it. It is no good repressing information when it might save people lives etc

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i've got a bit of a story to tell you lot, my mate was standing at a bus stop and four older lads came over to him and pushed him to the floor, my mate stood up and headbutted one of them, he broke his jaw and paralised them, now the're in a wheelchair, but you cannot say they didn't ask for it ;D

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That has got to be the dumbest post Ive ever read.

P.s. I would imagine an event like that would attract alot of news attention, If you could link to any that would be great, just to dissprove anyone that might think its utter bullshit ;)

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i've got a bit of a story to tell you lot, my mate was standing at a bus stop and four older lads came over to him and pushed him to the floor, my mate stood up and headbutted one of them, he broke his jaw and paralised them, now the're in a wheelchair, but you cannot say they didn't ask for it ;D

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That has got to be the dumbest post Ive ever read.

P.s. I would imagine an event like that would attract alot of news attention, If you could link to any that would be great, just to dissprove anyone that might think its utter bullshit ;)

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I personally didnt want to get sued so i didnt permantly injure the guy i fought. Although i think i broke his nose and slit his lip and knocked him out for 5 mins.........but the cunt cut my above my left eye with a a couple of punches b4 the fight even started.........i was throwing my bag down too ;D

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i've got a bit of a story to tell you lot, my mate was standing at a bus stop and four older lads came over to him and pushed him to the floor, my mate stood up and headbutted one of them, he broke his jaw and paralised them, now the're in a wheelchair, but you cannot say they didn't ask for it ;D

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That has got to be the dumbest post Ive ever read.

P.s. I would imagine an event like that would attract alot of news attention, If you could link to any that would be great, just to dissprove anyone that might think its utter bulls*** ;)

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i don't have to prove that i'm not lying to you, anyway, would it F.U.K be on the news and shit ::)

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You live in the UK, in what part of the UK does a youngster crippling another in a street brawl not make the news?

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You live in the UK, in what part of the UK does a youngster crippling another in a street brawl not make the news?

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hmmm memphis has a point there ;D

it got as far as the newspaper and thats it

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it got as far as the newspaper and thats it

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Fair enough.

What newspaper? when? it can be checked out.

the newspaper was called "the news post leader" but i'm not sure about the date

ok ok lets just say, this has happen
did this made him "the man" or anything??
i know sometimes you dan not avoid a fight tru tru
but you can avoid putting some1 in a wheelchair.

i never started a fight, but i know 1 thing for sure:
if some1 did this to 1 of my family or a friend of mine.
i would put him in a wheelchair the same day. there would only be 1 exeption,
if some1 else got to him first and put em in a wheelchair.


i know i would not be the only1 who would act stupid in this situation.
so how did your mate deal with the guys friend,bro's,other people??

how did he deal with the police? does he have a record now? does that maybe make him the man?

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ok ok lets just say, this has happen
did this made him "the man" or anything??
i know sometimes you dan not avoid a fight tru tru
but you can avoid putting some1 in a wheelchair.

i never started a fight, but i know 1 thing for sure:
if some1 did this to 1 of my family or a friend of mine.
i would put him in a wheelchair the same day. there would only be 1 exeption,
if some1 else got to him first and put em in a wheelchair.


i know i would not be the only1 who would act stupid in this situation.
so how did your mate deal with the guys friend,bro's,other people??

how did he deal with the police? does he have a record now? does that maybe make him the man?

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yes he does have a record now and he didn't start the fight, he is actually quite embarrassed about the whole issue

the lad and his family moved to a differant part of the country

i didn't say he was happy about what he had done

Lads & lasses, I'm with Memphis on this one, it's also been noted by the other mods about the dumb - yes dumb, this 10 year spilled my milk, looked at my girlfriend how do I kill him with this ninja death touch I heard about.

This is a boxing/technique/training forum NOT a streetfighting forum. There really is no debate about that.

Perhaps the main forum may enjoy taking the mickey out of you but we are and will try keep this section of the forum clean. If you have personal problems this probably isn't the place, the threads are most likely to get binned.

That sounds like a local paper scottswald. I bet you've been watching national TV and seen the news about a women being stabbed in the neck (Been on everyday for 2 weeks now), then I'm damn sure some kid paralyzing 4 people and putting them in wheelchairs would be on the National news too. It just sounds like the typical "My dads harder than your dad" talk but in a streetfighting aspect.

I think all contact sport forums will see users posting slightly "below the line" material because we relate contact sports to violence. If I mention boxing to my girlfriend she shy's away from the convosation as she just see's the sport how she wants to see it. People will see boxing in different lights, I see it as a great way to keep fit, enjoy myself and a great sport to watch. Other people will see it as an outlet for their aggression or as a skill they can learn to teach the school bully a lesson.

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That sounds like a local paper scottswald. I bet you've been watching national TV and seen the news about a women being stabbed in the neck (Been on everyday for 2 weeks now), then I'm damn sure some kid paralyzing 4 people and putting them in wheelchairs would be on the National news too. It just sounds like the typical "My dads harder than your dad" talk but in a streetfighting aspect.

I think all contact sport forums will see users posting slightly "below the line" material because we relate contact sports to violence. If I mention boxing to my girlfriend she shy's away from the convosation as she just see's the sport how she wants to see it. People will see boxing in different lights, I see it as a great way to keep fit, enjoy myself and a great sport to watch. Other people will see it as an outlet for their aggression or as a skill they can learn to teach the school bully a lesson.

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if ya gonna send a reply, make sure you read the posts properly, not once did i mention 4 kids gettin' paralised

so if ya just tryin to get ya posts up, make sure ya talkin' sense and not just makin' shit up!!!

There are a lot of reasons I train, but defending myself in a real life situation is probably my biggest reason.

yeah, i dunno why some of these guys take so much offense to it ??? ???

No one takes offence to it, more bollock bored of it. Most people dont care who punched\kicked\headbutted some kid, for those that do why not use PM's? that way you get to talk about your playground fights and no one else has to put up with it.

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No one takes offence to it, more bollock bored of it. Most people dont care who punched\kicked\headbutted some kid, for those that do why not use PM's? that way you get to talk about your playground fights and no one else has to put up with it.

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Well this one time i walked up to this kid and i......;D just teasing memphis.

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my mate was standing at a bus stop and four older lads came over to him and pushed him to the floor, my mate stood up and headbutted one of them, he broke his jaw and paralised them

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I think I might be missing something but you definately said them not that I'm being pedantic or anything, perhaps you should word your posts better? I'm not trying to get my posts up as I rarely post because I have little info and experience to offer, I prefer to read all the infomation this board has to share, the texts on the home page have kept me happy for hours.

I dont mean this to sound like a flame so please dont take it that way.