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Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
It all depends on who you are talking to. Some may completely agree on what you just said and some say that Barrera's best years were behind him. It was one hell of a performance and no one can take that away from Pac.
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
It all depends on who you are talking to. Some may completely agree on what you just said and some say that Barrera's best years were behind him. It was one hell of a performance and no one can take that away from Pac.
A hell of a performance. However the widely known chaos in MAB's training camp and the toll of the winning streak you mentioned in your post has many wondering whether MAB was all there that night. And now that Pac is in MAB's situation he is not offering the same opportunity to up and coming opponents like Solis, Valero, and Guzman. The JMM rematch is a good start though ...... and a fight with one of the 3 mentioned above in 08 will silence his critics.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
Embaressingly, I still havn't seen that fight..just the TKO. He's gotta get credit from me just purely for beating up such a legend. An opponent can never be blamed for what condition the fighter enters the ring in..thats his choice.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.
If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
I think those who look into excuses far too much on why pac beat him the first time around are the only once not giving pac credit for winning that fight the way he did.
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.
If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.
Jmm is in for a bad night, ofcourse jmm supporters will oppose that though. Mab could of won that fight with jmm if the kd was rule correctly. Again in a jmm fight a knockdown is not scored correctly saving jmm a lost. Just like in the first fight with pac, if the judge scored it correctly. Pac won via s.d.
Jmms luck will run out cause pac is going to put an end to it come March. ;D
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
Like I said in another thread nobody ever beats anybody these days, it's alway's an excuse. He was to old, green, shot, not focused, over rated, etc. But people never scream those things before the fight, it's simply not fair
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
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Like I said in another thread nobody ever beats anybody these days, it's alway's an excuse. He was to old, green, shot, not focused, over rated, etc. But people never scream those things before the fight, it's simply not fair
C'mon Brazillizian bomber [you haven't been bothering me lately ;D ;)], don't be too hard on Marco. I'd say he definitely had a bad night, though I'm not sure if it would have mattered even if he didn't.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Like I said in another thread nobody ever beats anybody these days, it's alway's an excuse. He was to old, green, shot, not focused, over rated, etc. But people never scream those things before the fight, it's simply not fair
C'mon Brazillizian bomber [you haven't been bothering me lately ;D ;)], don't be too hard on Marco. I'd say he definitely had a bad night, though I'm not sure if it would have mattered even if he didn't.
I have not seen you lately, I forgot you only show up in Pac threads ;D
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Embaressingly, I still havn't seen that fight..just the TKO. He's gotta get credit from me just purely for beating up such a legend. An opponent can never be blamed for what condition the fighter enters the ring in..thats his choice.
How are rampant fires that disrupted his training camp and disclosure of a metal plate in his head to the press just before the fight MAB's fault ?
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Like I said in another thread nobody ever beats anybody these days, it's alway's an excuse. He was to old, green, shot, not focused, over rated, etc. But people never scream those things before the fight, it's simply not fair
C'mon Brazillizian bomber [you haven't been bothering me lately ;D ;)], don't be too hard on Marco. I'd say he definitely had a bad night, though I'm not sure if it would have mattered even if he didn't.
I have not seen you lately, I forgot you only show up in Pac threads ;D
Probably because Pac exerted little hurt on MAB in their 2nd fight. Granted MAB was in survival mode the entire fight.
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.
If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.
The 2 have completely different styles and Pac is easier to counter than MAB. In Addition MAB had to fear Pac based on their previous fight and Pac's reputation. Pac is also faster so how can you base the outcome on a completely different fight plan that JMM will have to employ?
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.
If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.
The 2 have completely different styles and Pac is easier to counter than MAB. In Addition MAB had to fear Pac based on their previous fight and Pac's reputation. Pac is also faster so how can you base the outcome on a completely different fight plan that JMM will have to employ?
Bottom line is this, Marquez still looks like a great fighter but Pac has improved plenty since their first meeting and I just don't see Marquez winning. Of course that's just my opinion.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ?
1st fight he didn't have the greatest of training because of the brain surgery
\but he went in and did work and he became a god in his country so he got credit
2nd fight it was so hard to watch both fighters look like shit
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ?
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.
If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.
The 2 have completely different styles and Pac is easier to counter than MAB. In Addition MAB had to fear Pac based on their previous fight and Pac's reputation. Pac is also faster so how can you base the outcome on a completely different fight plan that JMM will have to employ?
Its funny that you consider Pacquaio being easier to counter when MAB had an easier time countering Marquez who was considered the best of these guys in terms of boxing skill than he was able to against PAcquaio. Pacquaio has developed excellent timing, excution, and he doesn't get hit like he used to except when he gets too wild. People who say Pacquaio looked bad, don't know what they are talking about, or should rewatch the fight. He fought one of his best fights in overall, and by far his best defensive performance. Because MAB stayed focused it would have been stupid for Pacquaio to go gunslinging because he got countered more in those few instances than he did in the rest of the fight, and Barrera knew that he had to box to stand a chance because Pacquaio is too fast, too good, and hits too hard for Barrera to handle him.
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Finito Lopez
I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.
If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.
The 2 have completely different styles and Pac is easier to counter than MAB. In Addition MAB had to fear Pac based on their previous fight and Pac's reputation. Pac is also faster so how can you base the outcome on a completely different fight plan that JMM will have to employ?
Its funny that you consider Pacquaio being easier to counter when MAB had an easier time countering Marquez who was considered the best of these guys in terms of boxing skill than he was able to against PAcquaio. Pacquaio has developed excellent timing, excution, and he doesn't get hit like he used to except when he gets too wild. People who say Pacquaio looked bad, don't know what they are talking about, or should rewatch the fight. He fought one of his best fights in overall, and by far his best defensive performance. Because MAB stayed focused it would have been stupid for Pacquaio to go gunslinging because he got countered more in those few instances than he did in the rest of the fight, and Barrera knew that he had to box to stand a chance because Pacquaio is too fast, too good, and hits too hard for Barrera to handle him.
I think Ice is talking about their first fight.As for the JMM MAB fight,how do you know that was not MAB's last great effort?He didnt show much v Manny the second time,in fact,it looked as if he was there to survive.
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .
I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
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Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .
I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .
Thats actually what pac said, he said he will take on jmm to end the debate over who is better. Then he wants to move up to lightweight to fight the diazs. I'm sure pac is getting tired of fighting the same guys over and over again too. I'm mean eric,marco and juan are all great but its about time to have this last bout with jmm then move on to better things like up in lightweight.
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Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .
I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .
I don't necessarily think that's true. If you watch the 11th round Pac catches Barrera and sends him to the ropes, then shortly after, a left knocked Barrera off balance, that's when Marco hugged and hit Pacquiao on the break which I felt was a way to delay the fight so he could end the momentum Pac was bringing on in the round.
If you watch that round there's no way you can say Marco wasn't in trouble.
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Originally Posted by GAME
Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .
I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .
I don't necessarily think that's true. If you watch the 11th round Pac catches Barrera and sends him to the ropes, then shortly after, a left knocked Barrera off balance, that's when Marco hugged and hit Pacquiao on the break which I felt was a way to delay the fight so he could end the momentum Pac was bringing on in the round.
If you watch that round there's no way you can say Marco wasn't in trouble.
yup, was about to say that.
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if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.
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Originally Posted by KKisser
if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.
Not here kisser ( total validation) ..... Better yet what will be your stance if Juan Diaz mops the floor with Pac? I doubt JMM can,but what if does ?
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Originally Posted by KKisser
if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.
Not here kisser ( total validation) ..... Better yet what will be your stance if Juan Diaz mops the floor with Pac? I doubt JMM can,but what if does ?
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Thats the curse of being on top, no matter what you do, theres always people that want to see you fall. It seems like Manny got alot more credit when he was coming up, now that he's arrived its expected that he k.o. his opponent or it wasnt up to par... He really did beat Barerra at his own game and Barerra got outboxed.
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Thats the curse of being on top, no matter what you do, theres always people that want to see you fall. It seems like Manny got alot more credit when he was coming up, now that he's arrived its expected that he k.o. his opponent or it wasnt up to par... He really did beat Barerra at his own game and Barerra got outboxed.
Bottom line is PAc did what he had to do to win (took care of business) But no way in hell can you tell me MAB was there to fight/box the guy was there to get paid and stay upright and gave nothing in the way of effort. This affected PAC a lot, had MAB come to fight he would have had his old @ss knocked out. You could see Pac was not prepared for a dull non action fight and fought to the caliber of his opponent.
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He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.
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He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.
Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .
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He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.
Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .
I dont think Barrera showed himself as being on the slide against Juarez nor Marquez. He held his own IMO and was unlucky in the Marquez fight with that uncalled KD
Against Pac the second time out, I do think that Barrera looked old though. That was a totally different Barrera and Ive never seen him so gun shy.
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He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.
Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .
I dont think Barrera showed himself as being on the slide against Juarez nor Marquez. He held his own IMO and was unlucky in the Marquez fight with that uncalled KD
Against Pac the second time out, I do think that Barrera looked old though. That was a totally different Barrera and Ive never seen him so gun shy.
Nah Barrera must have been in decline in those fights cuz in his prime he would have battered Juarez and Marquez . Here though he chose to outbox em . He didnt have the stamina or desire he once had .
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Re: Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??
one way or the other mab can not beat pac, no matter what anyone say. pac just had mabs number.
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He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.
Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .
I dont think Barrera showed himself as being on the slide against Juarez nor Marquez. He held his own IMO and was unlucky in the Marquez fight with that uncalled KD
Against Pac the second time out, I do think that Barrera looked old though. That was a totally different Barrera and Ive never seen him so gun shy.
Nah Barrera must have been in decline in those fights cuz in his prime he would have battered Juarez and Marquez . Here though he chose to outbox em . He didnt have the stamina or desire he once had .
In Barrera's prime he would have battered Juarez, but in no way would've battered Marquez. Marquez is too skilled for that. Maybe a younger Barrera would beat Marquez but that's a maybe.
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He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.
Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .
I dont think Barrera showed himself as being on the slide against Juarez nor Marquez. He held his own IMO and was unlucky in the Marquez fight with that uncalled KD
Against Pac the second time out, I do think that Barrera looked old though. That was a totally different Barrera and Ive never seen him so gun shy.
Nah Barrera must have been in decline in those fights cuz in his prime he would have battered Juarez and Marquez . Here though he chose to outbox em . He didnt have the stamina or desire he once had .
In Barrera's prime he would have battered Juarez, but in no way would've battered Marquez. Marquez is too skilled for that. Maybe a younger Barrera would beat Marquez but that's a maybe.
Well said Caleoh. With regards to Manny,he had an awful 2007 and needs to pick up the pace in 08. He seems to be doing that by taking the JMM fight and the David Diaz fight straight after.With P4P lists becoming so competetive,if he wants to retain his place,he needs to fight tough fights.
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I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.
I fully agree with this comment, ICB. MAB was on a winning streak and was considered king of the featherweight(?) at that time. It was Pacquaio who took that crown away immediately after MAB gave a lesson to Hamed.
I am of the belief that Pacquaio was not fighting an MAB with an off night. A great fighter like MAB can not be battered easily by any fighter even in an off night. Pacquaio clearly was far superior than MAB during that night and even in their 2nd fight....
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Originally Posted by KKisser
if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.
Not here kisser ( total validation) ..... Better yet what will be your stance if Juan Diaz mops the floor with Pac? I doubt JMM can,but what if does ?
i said IF he wins against those fighters, then the doubters would finally believe that manny is the real deal. personally i think he will totally dominate jmm and stop him this time around. i also think pac can beat juan diaz but in the event he loses then i guess he just went one weight too heavy than he can handle. BUT if pac beats all of those fighters i mentioned wouldn't you agree it validates the he's just at different level?
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I dont think pac man will ever be a "Great", MY OPINION ONLY so dont get all heated about it you pac fans. Although he is a fu+*ing awsome, i dont know why, but when i think about all time greats at that weight he doesnt come to mind. barrera, marrales etc.. (even thought hey lost to him) will always be remembered as greats
