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PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
Williams, trainer/manager George Peterson, and promoter Dan Goossen are outraged over Cintron's recent challenge of Margarito. Goossen questioned Kermit's injury and alluded to the fact that Kermit called out EVERYONE bar Williams. PW's trainer said Kermit is heartless and he knew Kermit did not want to fight. The injury has actually healed and Kermit can begin training in January1!!! So a march fight could have been made!! Peterson:"He needs to be arrested for felony fraud for putting on that kind of drama in the ring.”
Diaz.Marg's manager had this to say: "Diaz says Cintron, the reigning IBF welterweight champion, talks a good game, but if he really wants Margarito - he should stop with the press releases and the public challenges and let their promoters do the talking."
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Maybe all the evidence isn't in but sure as fuck seems like Cintron is blatantly ducking Paul Williams.
I've defended him before but I'm not gonna defend a blatant ducker. And I thought he maybe could get over the mental/emotional problems but after the Feliciano fight I'm not sure of that.
I'm on the verge of just saying fuck him but who knows maybe he'll do the right thing and try to make a fight with Williams.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Maybe all the evidence isn't in but sure as fuck seems like Cintron is blatantly ducking Paul Williams.
I've defended him before but I'm not gonna defend a blatant ducker. And I thought he maybe could get over the mental/emotional problems but after the Feliciano fight I'm not sure of that.
I'm on the verge of just saying fuck him but who knows maybe he'll do the right thing and try to make a fight with Williams.
My man,I made the dam thread defending this moron Cintron! I feel foolish now. He over reacted with his injury and whilst he is on the sidelines,he is calling out Cotto and Margarito when he had a fight with PW lined up and Clottey is his mandatory. The Williams fight is a unification match for crying out loud,it doesn't get much bigger than that!!! Add to this the fact that he can start training in January,then he IS ducking PW.
And to think I actually thought,wth his style,he had a chance v PW. I hope Tony puts this big mouth fool to sleep and unifies. PW's trainer also called Kermit "heartless". ;D I'm sorry if I sound harsh but I ma just not understanding Kermits' mentality here.
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Me Personally would like to see Margarito/Cintron 2...Have Tony take the IBF belt the him and Williams have a rematch...I know Tony would be more then happy to have a unifaction bout
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Maybe all the evidence isn't in but sure as F*** seems like Cintron is blatantly ducking Paul Williams.
I've defended him before but I'm not gonna defend a blatant ducker. And I thought he maybe could get over the mental/emotional problems but after the Feliciano fight I'm not sure of that.
I'm on the verge of just saying F*** him but who knows maybe he'll do the right thing and try to make a fight with Williams.
My man,I made the dam thread defending this moron Cintron! I feel foolish now. He over reacted with his injury and whilst he is on the sidelines,he is calling out Cotto and Margarito when he had a fight with PW lined up and Clottey is his mandatory. The Williams fight is a unification match for crying out loud,it doesn't get much bigger than that!!! Add to this the fact that he can start training in January,then he IS ducking PW.
And to think I actually thought,wth his style,he had a chance v PW. I hope Tony puts this big mouth fool to sleep and unifies. PW's trainer also called Kermit "heartless". ;D I'm sorry if I sound harsh but I ma just not understanding Kermits' mentality here.
Unreal how fake this guy is. I've been very vocal about this punk-a##, so I won't say any more about this, as Gamo says, Big Mouth Fool. I just hope one of these guys ends his career, and I'll leave it at that.
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Never mind Williams and Margarito. If Clottey is his mandatory I do not think he should look past this challenge. Clottey may or may not beat him but either way he deserves more respect than being over looked by Cintron. It is a losable fight for Cintron in my opinion.
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All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Well then, let Margarito have a rematch. It's not like he got beat down by PW, and though much respect to PW for beating Tony, I think it could go a little differently in a rematch. At least Margarito has and will again step up to PW and isn't afraid.
I don't care who fights Cintron; just someone please beat him right out of the game. I'll be your best friend if you do ;D ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
I wouldnt say ducking, he just would have rather fought Cotto or Mayweather. It did take PW calling him out to get the fight tho.
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Just what I thought.
I have a great idea. Floyd and Kermit should open up a ranch for sick children or something.
The ranch should be full of CHICKENS and DUCKS.
They can call it CAPM FRUAD!
[img width=530 height=700]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6520/chicksducksqt8.jpg[/img]
;D
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The camp could teach kids how to fake injuries, drama, run, duck, lie, cry, bullshiet the people, beat up on midgets and old men too.
Did I miss anything? Can we add more activities to this camp?
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How to properly demostrate you've hurt your hand. Step one: wince in pain Step 2: double over Step 3:roll on the floor to try and get sympathy
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
Me Personally would like to see Margarito/Cintron 2...Have Tony take the IBF belt the him and Williams have a rematch...I know Tony would be more then happy to have a unifaction bout
Good call Daxx,My exact wish list.Cintron needs to be put on the spot and Publically Hammered like a nail.This rematch with Williams should Happen ASAP.
Honestly,This is who and what I was speaking of last night in the "lame Excuses" thread.Private Snowball (Cintrons new name) and His lame Oscar award worthy rolling around on the canvas act.
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Lets bring up Cotto then. Tall Paul will fight him. Who is his next fight. It dont matter we are going Belt collecting. The Margo comment was good but he already beat him and he has no BELT.Clottey either. There are enough Champs to fight Tall Paul and Margo, so they will have to met in the end. Im not saying Tall Paul cant lose but lets start fighting an we will see in the end. Seems like Cotto is waiting for Floyd but Floyd is playing the big fight comeback game.18 months off then fight. Unfortunetly he is in position to do that because he doesnt need a Belt in 18 months to get a big fight with anyone so in the meanwhile Champs fight each other. Stop waiting for the Big payday and fight because if not you are doing the same thing Floyd is being accused of. Paul will fight anyone will the rest of them. Lets get a Tall Paul vs Cotto fight then. #1 vs #2. If Cotto is #1. Stop waiting for Floyd. Citrons a BUM so let Margo have that RABBIT. But stop waiting or stop being critical of other fighter because u are doing the same thing. I know I am only telling the TRUTH.
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Never mind Williams and Margarito. If Clottey is his mandatory I do not think he should look past this challenge. Clottey may or may not beat him but either way he deserves more respect than being over looked by Cintron. It is a losable fight for Cintron in my opinion.
Truth is I will say it before and will again when concerning Clottey...I will not say people duck him because I don't believe it is true but I have always said he is a fighter guys will try to avoid if there are other fights out there and no fights with bigger money either....Clottey is a tough tough guy and is an opponent that provides you with everything to lose and nothing to gain...Even if you beat him you had to work hard at it...and lets be honest if you are champion and have a choice between facing Clottey for $750,000 or Gomez, Judah or Bonsu for the same paycheck where are you going?....The guy whose only losses was a DQ in a fight against Baldomir that he was winning comfortably and against Margarito who he was winning against until he hurt his hand (Legit hurt)...not to mention Clottey has never been hurt in a fight or the other choices?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
Again see above
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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
Me Personally would like to see Margarito/Cintron 2...Have Tony take the IBF belt the him and Williams have a rematch...I know Tony would be more then happy to have a unifaction bout
Good call Daxx,My exact wish list.Cintron needs to be put on the spot and Publically Hammered like a nail.This rematch with Williams should Happen ASAP.
Honestly,This is who and what I was speaking of last night in the "lame Excuses" thread.Private Snowball (Cintrons new name) and His lame Oscar award worthy rolling around on the canvas act.
I thought Cintron would turn over a new leaf with Steward but I guess I was wrong :-\.....LOL Private Snowball
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Originally Posted by uwey
Lets bring up Cotto then. Tall Paul will fight him. Who is his next fight. It dont matter we are going Belt collecting. The Margo comment was good but he already beat him and he has no BELT.Clottey either. There are enough Champs to fight Tall Paul and Margo, so they will have to met in the end. Im not saying Tall Paul cant lose but lets start fighting an we will see in the end. Seems like Cotto is waiting for Floyd but Floyd is playing the big fight comeback game.18 months off then fight. Unfortunetly he is in position to do that because he doesnt need a Belt in 18 months to get a big fight with anyone so in the meanwhile Champs fight each other. Stop waiting for the Big payday and fight because if not you are doing the same thing Floyd is being accused of. Paul will fight anyone will the rest of them. Lets get a Tall Paul vs Cotto fight then. #1 vs #2. If Cotto is #1. Stop waiting for Floyd. Citrons a BUM so let Margo have that RABBIT. But stop waiting or stop being critical of other fighter because u are doing the same thing. I know I am only telling the TRUTH.
What do you mean "We are going belt collecting" are you a member of Williams management team?...Do you make the decisions on who he signs to fight?.....As for Margarito he deserves a rematch with Williams...Williams did not dominate Margarito....It was Tony's slow start that cost him....a bad habit he developed...Truth is he did the same thing in the Clottey fight and if Joshua did not hurt his hand and was able to stay more active...as much of a Margarito supporter I am he would have lost that fight.....Williams won by 2 rds....Toney did not start coming on until the 6th...so that means even when Tony was in slow mode Paul lost some rds to him...You do the Math....Your right Margarito does not have a title and if there was a rematch there is a very good chance Willians wouldn't either
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
CC...I agree that Tony ducks no one. One of the most admirable things that I've seen from a fighter is what Tony did last year in taking the very dangerous fight with Paul to keep his pride and manhood intact.
Nobody can ever take that away from him and other guys should follow that example. That's what being a real fighter is all about.
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I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
Holyshit........ CC VD.Well said.:-X
Cintrons Problem is upstairs .All the physical attributes but Fragile.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
CC...I agree that Tony ducks no one. One of the most admirable things that I've seen from a fighter is what Tony did last year in taking the very dangerous fight with Paul to keep his pride and manhood intact.
Nobody can ever take that away from him and other guys should follow that example. That's what being a real fighter is all about.
CC back bro. Marg went to court to get the fight v Williams made. That shows how much of a warrior he is and it shows how foolish those people who said Tony was ducking Paul are which is why 95% of them have gone silent now.
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I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
CC,good post.
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cintron is a bitch. he is ducking williams, to be honest i hope he gets the rematch against margarito so i can see him get ko'd again
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Cotto vs Williams. What about that fight. The winner meets Margo. Floyd is hiding so these fighters cant play into his hand and wait. Floyd is waiting until Cotto and Williams weed their selves out. He dont want to fight either but he would rather fight Cotto. Cotto vs Williams point blank.#1 vs #2. Who else are they going to fight. I want to see the best fighters fight. Floyd is hiding so forget about him. Unfortunetly he is in position were he can do that but we will get him too. Cant hide forever Floyd. Samething Tarver told Roy. Tall Paul is saying that to Floyd and Cotto. BELT COLLECTING TIME.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
The division is stacked indeed....At this point I still pick him against Berto...Berto leaves himself to wide open and is a little too dependent on his power...Cintron has plenty of power and is a bit of a better boxer...but Berto is developing still...In a year or so I go with Andre if Cintron does not change his ways...I actually go with Quintana to outbox Cintron...
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Originally Posted by uwey
Cotto vs Williams. What about that fight. The winner meets Margo. Floyd is hiding so these fighters cant play into his hand and wait. Floyd is waiting until Cotto and Williams weed their selves out. He dont want to fight either but he would rather fight Cotto. Cotto vs Williams point blank.#1 vs #2. Who else are they going to fight. I want to see the best fighters fight. Floyd is hiding so forget about him. Unfortunetly he is in position were he can do that but we will get him too. Cant hide forever Floyd. Samething Tarver told Roy. Tall Paul is saying that to Floyd and Cotto. BELT COLLECTING TIME.
I like your thining but Arum doesnt so it's most likely not going to Cotto-PW anytime soon. I love Cotto,one of my fave fighters BUT PW is a horrbile match up,styles wise. Mayweather would not go near PW.Even if he did beat Cotto and unify.
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I agree that Arum will do everything he can to avoid fighting Williams (please note that I am saying Arum will duck Paul, not Cotto...I don't doubt that Cotto will fight anyone presented to him). But, provided Williams can continue to make 147, it will be the only logical step within a year. The talk has been of Cotto fighting Clottey in March then Margarito in June (provided he beats Clottey of course, which is no gimme by any stretch). After that, unless Cotto can get De La Hoya (who says he won't fight a Puerto Rican) or Mayweather (who the hell knows what he's gonna do), Williams would really be the only logical move for his fall/winter fight. Even if he can get one of those two to fight him, Paul would still loom as the most reasonable opponent for early '09.
