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Take these twenty guys and make a list, be quick about it
I'm bored, I'm home for Christmas with nothing to do, this forum is boring me, all of you individually are boring me.
Make a list, a pound for pound top twenty with these twenty fighters so I don't have to stoop to reading the thread about Roy Jones dogfighting or start searching the internet for the documentary about Paulie Malignaggi (they made a documentary about Paulie Malignaggi, WTF)
Sort it out, these twenty fighters, one through twenty
Kelly Pavlik
JMM
Joan Guzman
Floyd Mayweather
Bernard Hopkins
Rafael Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
Manny Pacquaio
Miguel Cotto
Juan Diaz
Ivan Calderon
Ricky Hatton
Mikkel Kessler
Shane Mosley
Jermain Taylor
Those are the guys, maybe I forgot somebody obvious but that's the list. There are some guys who maybe could be on there-Chad Dawson, Cory Spinks, Linares, Paul Williams, Carl Froch ( :D), Wlad (not in the mood for heavyweights)-but that's the list. I'm sure El Gamo will think where's Takefumi Sakata but nobody knows who Sakata is so just chill the fuck out Gamo. :o
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Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
JMM
Bernard Hopkins
Miguel Cotto
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Winky Wright
Ivan Calderon
Juan Diaz
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Shane Mosley
Mikkel Kessler
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
That's my list. Not sure if Cotto belongs above or below R Marquez and Vazquez. Initially I put him below but then put him higher on account of his unbeaten status.
I'm not sure. He looks like the man at welterweight and beat a legend in Mosely but I'm not sure if an old Mosely is better than beating R Marquez or I Vazquez or vice versa. I'd certainly have no disagreements with anyone either way,
Calzaghe HAS to be top 3 though I simply will not listen to arguments regarding ranking him below 3rd place.
I decided to drop Hatton out of the top 10 but I'm sure some will stil put him in the last two spots and thrown out Winky Wright. I think Winky should stay though, losing on points at 170 lbs to another p4p star is no reason to be dumped from the p4p spot he held before.
Pavlik will most certainly hit the top 10 if he beats Jermain Taylor in their rematch but I cannot give him a spot now considering he has yet to even make a successful title defense yet.
I certainly think he deserves a spot but not above lesser known but no less acomplished fighters like Ivan Calderon a double weight world champ and unbeaten, and Juan Diaz a two time world champ also unbeaten.
Mijares and Donaire are at the bottom of the list for me as beating Jorge Arc and Vic Darchinyan doesn't put you into the p4p rankings.
Guzman is borderline top 10 imo a double weight world champ and one of my favourite boxers to watche.
Oh yeah and F*** El Gamo ;D
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Joe should be at least 2nd, Pacquiao hasnt really done much to prove hes any better than Joe or Floyd this year, Floyd has beaten a good light middle and good light welter, Floyd is good but it is frustrating how he never fights the top man in his own division.
Joe has capped an unbelievable run being the top man in the division for 10 years by beating THE hot young prospect in not only supermiddle but boxing
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Re: Take these twenty guys and make a list, be quick about it
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I'm bored, I'm home for Christmas with nothing to do, this forum is boring me, all of you individually are boring me.
Make a list, a pound for pound top twenty with these twenty fighters so I don't have to stoop to reading the thread about Roy Jones dogfighting or start searching the internet for the documentary about Paulie Malignaggi (they made a documentary about Paulie Malignaggi, WTF)
Sort it out, these twenty fighters, one through twenty
Kelly Pavlik
JMM
Joan Guzman
Floyd Mayweather
Bernard Hopkins
Rafael Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
Manny Pacquaio
Miguel Cotto
Juan Diaz
Ivan Calderon
Ricky Hatton
Mikkel Kessler
Shane Mosley
Jermain Taylor
Those are the guys, maybe I forgot somebody obvious but that's the list. There are some guys who maybe could be on there-Chad Dawson, Cory Spinks, Linares, Paul Williams, Carl Froch ( :D), Wlad (not in the mood for heavyweights)-but that's the list. I'm sure El Gamo will think where's Takefumi Sakata but nobody knows who Sakata is so just chill the F*** out Gamo. :o
1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz
11 Kelly Pavlik
12 Winky Wright
13 Ricky Hatton
14 Joan Guzman
15 Jermain Taylor
16 Shane Mosley
17 Mikkel Kessler
18 Christian Mijares
19 Chris John
20 Nonito Donaire
That was 19 boxers not 20 i threw in Chris John at 19 i couldn't really think though.
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Good call Ouma
I have been offline for about 4 days and i was expecting to come back to loads of great posts to comment on....but it's all been rather quiet.
So actually this is the only one thats interested me....
1: Mayweather
2: Calzaghe
3: Pacman
4: Hopkins
5: JMM
6: Vasquez
7: R Marquez
8: Miguel Cotto
9: Ricky Hatton
10: Ivan Calderon
11: Winky
12: Kelly Pavlik
13: Juan Diaz
14: Guzman
15: JT
16: Donaire
17: Kessler
18: Mijares
19: David Haye
20: Mosley
There was only 19 on your list ;D
Anyways probs a lot of holes to pick in that list but i basically just copied Bilbo's.....so blame him :P
Just kidding.
I'm open to anybody saying Hatton aint top ten but i'm a fanboy so i show considerable bias.
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Hopkins above Calzaghe ICB i just dont get it explain!
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Hopkins above Calzaghe ICB i just dont get it explain!
1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz
11 Kelly Pavlik
12 Winky Wright
13 Ricky Hatton
14 Joan Guzman
15 Jermain Taylor
16 Shane Mosley
17 Mikkel Kessler
18 Christian Mijares
19 Chris John
20 Nonito Donaire
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Fucking counting
Allright so who should be the twentieth, i'll edit the post
I see votes for Chris John, David Haye, there's also Spinks, Paul Williams, Linares, or maybe I could indulge Gamo's sick obsession with Takefumi Sakata.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
F****** counting
Allright so who should be the twentieth, i'll edit the post
I see votes for Chris John, David Haye, there's also Spinks, Paul Williams, Linares, or maybe I could indulge Gamo's sick obsession with Takefumi Sakata.
I think Chris John should be there somewhere to be honest, his opposition may be questionable. But he has a win over Marquez, yes it was controversial and i thought Marquez won but a wins a win. Plus Chris John has made 7 defense, plus he is 40-0.
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Hmm, thats funny, I think these threads are boring. Go figure..... I'm not worried about rankings because they dont seem to matter much for matchmaking anymore.... I would be interested in doing a Saddos pound for pound list by division, top 10's then we could compare em to the organizations rankings. Frankly, these lists are just pissing contests about your opinion. Unless your name is Jose Suliaman I dont give a fuck.
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Allright, the twentieth pick is like your joker pick, you can put whoever you want in there. You could even put Carl Froch in there.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Allright, the twentieth pick is like your joker pick, you can put whoever you want in there. You could even put Carl Froch in there.
Now that would be a joker's pick
Ba-Dum
:lickish:
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For what it's worth my twentieth would be Oscar De La Hoya. He showed against Floyd he's still world class and a cut above Ricky Hatton.
I think Cory Spink, Vernon Forrest and Chris John are the biggest rivals for the 20th spot.
I don't think Haye has done enough yet although if he beats Enzo I'd say he makes top 20.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
For what it's worth my twentieth would be Oscar De La Hoya. He showed against Floyd he's still world class and a cut above Ricky Hatton.
I think Cory Spink, Vernon Forrest and Chris John are the biggest rivals for the 20th spot.
I don't think Haye has done enough yet although if he beats Enzo I'd say he makes top 20.
For some reason Oscar didn't even cross my mind. I guess for a few years now I've just thought of him as a part time celebrity boxer but he is still a good fighter.
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Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Bernard Hopkins
Joe Calzaghe
JMM
Kelly Pavlik
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Ivan Calderon
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Shane Mosley
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Chris John
Honourable Mentions:
De La Hoya
Cazares
Edwin Valero
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
For what it's worth my twentieth would be Oscar De La Hoya. He showed against Floyd he's still world class and a cut above Ricky Hatton.
I think Cory Spink, Vernon Forrest and Chris John are the biggest rivals for the 20th spot.
I don't think Haye has done enough yet although if he beats Enzo I'd say he makes top 20.
For some reason Oscar didn't even cross my mind. I guess for a few years now I've just thought of him as a part time celebrity boxer but he is still a good fighter.
He gets so little credit now that I'd say he's the most underated fighter in boxing, at least here on Saddo's.
Everyone says he's useless and should just retire, completely overlooking the fact that if Miguel Cotto or Paul Williams would have put the same beat down on Ricardo Mayorga that he did they would be all over their nutsacks.
Loses a split decision to the world's greatest fighter yet most people don't even consider him top 50 any more :-\
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I agree with a lot of your points but his inactivity does not help him
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
I agree with a lot of your points but his inactivity does not help him
Still Bilbo's got a point, I'd rate Oscar over guys like Chris John, David Haye without much hesitation.
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1- Floyd Mayweather
2- Juan Manuel Marquez...Two and 3 may change depending on how the rematch goes
3- Manny Pacquiao
4-Joe Calzaghe
5-Bernard Hopkins
6-Ivan Calderon...Im sorry but This is THE most forgot about talent in boxing
7-Israel Vasquez
8-Miguel Cotto
9-Rafael Marquez
10-Kelly Pavlik
11- Juan Diaz
12-Ricky Hatton
13- Winky Wright
14-Mikkel Kessler
15- Joan Guzman
16-Jermain Taylor
17- Shane Mosley
18- Nonito Donaire
19-Chris John
20-Christian Mijares
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I did it as quick as possible without doing a double take so hopefully I didn't put the same name twice or didn't make a stupid rank.
*Joker
PBF
Pac
JMM
B-Hop
Calzaghe
Israel
Cotto
Calderon
Wright
Hatton
Rafael
Pavlik
Guzman
Diaz
Nonito
Mijares
Haye*
Taylor
Kessler
Mosley
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Manny Pacquaio
Kelly Pavlik
Miguel Cotto
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
Winky Wright
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Phuk Floyd "I wont fight fight a REAL Welter Weight" Mayweather Jr. At least he got a dishonorable mention from me. LOL
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Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
SAKATA
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
SAKATA
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
I know nothing whatever about him buddy I just wanted to say Fuck El Gamo for the hell of it, made me feel alive ;D
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
I know nothing whatever about him buddy I just wanted to say F*** El Gamo for the hell of it, made me feel alive ;D
Yeah it does kind of feel good, life affirming if you will. Fuck El Gamo. :D
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
I know nothing whatever about him buddy I just wanted to say F*** El Gamo for the hell of it, made me feel alive ;D
Yeah it does kind of feel good, life affirming if you will. Fuck El Gamo. :D
I shall not stoop to the levels of my 2 grumpy,scrooge like compatriots!
:blahbla: :moon-new: :cwm13: :cwm21: :cwm29: :furious: :hippy: :hypnodisk:;D ;D :kissing: :nono: :pimp2: :rasta: :sick2: :smash: :spamsign: :gay-as-steelie: :beat: :beat: :willydance: :moon2: :Moon:
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
I know nothing whatever about him buddy I just wanted to say F*** El Gamo for the hell of it, made me feel alive ;D
Yeah it does kind of feel good, life affirming if you will. F*** El Gamo. :D
I shall not stoop to the levels of my 2 grumpy,scrooge like compatriots!
:blahbla: :moon-new: :cwm13: :cwm21: :cwm29: :furious: :hippy: :hypnodisk:;D ;D :kissing: :nono: :pimp2: :rasta: :sick2: :smash: :spamsign: :gay-as-steelie: :beat: :beat: :willydance: :moon2: :Moon:
Have i missed something here ?? since when are El Gamo and Oumafan rivals :-\
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
I know nothing whatever about him buddy I just wanted to say F*** El Gamo for the hell of it, made me feel alive ;D
Yeah it does kind of feel good, life affirming if you will. F*** El Gamo. :D
I shall not stoop to the levels of my 2 grumpy,scrooge like compatriots!
:blahbla: :moon-new: :cwm13: :cwm21: :cwm29: :furious: :hippy: :hypnodisk:;D ;D :kissing: :nono: :pimp2: :rasta: :sick2: :smash: :spamsign: :gay-as-steelie: :beat: :beat: :willydance: :moon2: :Moon:
Have i missed something here ?? since when are El Gamo and Oumafan rivals :-\
El Gamoa nd Oumafan have always been rivals :D :D >:mad >:mad :D :D >:mad >:mad :D :D ^-^ :lickish: :laugh: :-*
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Ouma and Bilbo,you guys are bastards >:mad >:mad >:mad ;D Sakata has done more than alot of those guys including avenging his defeats,winning titles and fighting some of the best fighters around!!He deserves to be more than guys like Nonito etc!!
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
JMM
Israel Vazquez
Miguel Cotto
Ivan Calderon
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Rafael Marquez
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
SAKATA
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Great call on Sakata Gamo... :appl:
Vastly overlooked (me included)
