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The Wind - My First Post
Hello to Everyone out there, no doubt you will be from across the globe, well a BIG hello to you all, Ek Pyar!
As you can see this is my first post on the forum, I’ve been reading the many topics and posts from various people and there are certainly a lot of interesting subjects.
I’m a big fan of most sports and I’ve been into Sport from whenever I can remember really, one of the many sports I follow with a great deal of passion is of course, Boxing.
Although I may not be as frequent as some of you when it comes to Topics and Posts, however I will try and keep up with you whilst trying to run my very hectic life and equally hectic family and I would like to think quality over quantity.
Anyways, I look forward to some interesting chats, discussions and no doubt some rather heated debates as well as sharing my knowledge of Boxing with you and of course gaining as much knowledge from some of you more knowledgeable posters!
Wishing you all a very Happy New Year.
The Wind.
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Welcome to the site, i look forward to reading some of your posts
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Thanks,
I believe, for being the first to welcome me, that means a Cool Click.
Who's your top ten boxers of all time?
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How Do I send a Cool Click?
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Originally Posted by The Wind
How Do I send a Cool Click?
100 posts gives you that ability.
That being said...welcome to the forum. Have the Obligatory Wacko Welcome Wagon :coolclick:
You should get on fine here...it's a great board with lots of fine posters.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Thanks,
I believe, for being the first to welcome me, that means a Cool Click.
Who's your top ten boxers of all time?
Apologies for any people i miss out here as I am doing this quickly:
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Harry Greb
5. Joe Louis
6. Willie Pep
7. Roberto Duran
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sam Langford
10. Eder Jofre
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CC The Wind hopefully you will stick around this is the best boxing forum on the net. ;)
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Welcome aboard, cool click #4 Just agree with everything I say and you'll be alright. ;D
I'm just messing with ya, we are all pretty decent, just beware of guys like CutmeMick, wacko3205, DaxxKhan, Bilbo, Violent Demise, they dont know shit and they always think they're right ;)
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Welcome aboard, cool click #4 Just agree with everything I say and you'll be alright. ;D
I'm just messing with ya, we are all pretty decent, just beware of guys like CutmeMick, wacko3205, DaxxKhan, Bilbo, Violent Demise, they dont know S*** and they always think they're right ;)
Hey now!!! I represent that remark!!! ;D
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My question to you is: How do you pronounce the name? Is it "wind" as in "run like the wind," or "wind" as in "wind-up"?
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CC#5 Mate...Welcome Aboard.....
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Welcome mate CC stick around this forum has some of the most knowledgeable boxing fans you will ever see.
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Thanks again to you ALL for a very nice welcome.
I suppose I could have sent several different posts back and got more post points but, hey never mind.
I think the question I asked is very difficult to answer, especially straight away, so it's a testiment to you for replying so quick.
I would say I agree with Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis and Roberto Duran and there are more but these All Time Greats and Legends will spring to mind straight away and rightly so, but what's your views on some of the recent and modern fighters, I would most likely think of Hopkins, Hagler, Chavez, Lopez, Barrera, Morales, Trinidad and I'm sure there are many more
What are your thoughts....
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Originally Posted by Rican
My question to you is: How do you pronounce the name? Is it "wind" as in "run like the wind," or "wind" as in "wind-up"?
It's "The Wind" like the one "that sweaps someone from within under their feet" or like you say "run like the wind,"
thanks
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Hi Wind and welcome to the forum.
Ignore No Contest's rude snide at myself. Contrary to popular belief I accept that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Of course that does not alter the fact that my own is the only one that counts ;D
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hi Wind and welcome to the forum.
Ignore No Contest's rude snide at myself. Contrary to popular belief I accept that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Of course that does not alter the fact that my own is the only one that counts ;D
Thanks for the welcome,
Let your opinion count.. give me your top ten.
Thanks again
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hi Wind and welcome to the forum.
Ignore No Contest's rude snide at myself. Contrary to popular belief I accept that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Of course that does not alter the fact that my own is the only one that counts ;D
well heres someone that does not agree ;)
http://www.tigerboxing.com/articles/...01245221_1.jpg
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Hello to Everyone out there, no doubt you will be from across the globe, well a BIG hello to you all, Ek Pyar!
As you can see this is my first post on the forum, I’ve been reading the many topics and posts from various people and there are certainly a lot of interesting subjects.
I’m a big fan of most sports and I’ve been into Sport from whenever I can remember really, one of the many sports I follow with a great deal of passion is of course, Boxing.
Welcome aboard the Saddo Express. 8)
Heres CC#7 on me. Just do what you do, protect yourself at all times and come out swinging. Like any family we get along well but we also have our days were no one can stand eachother. We get past it, for example Wacko3205 was dating :bananasex: Ice Cold Boxing if you notice now they can't even be in the same Topic cause they got at eachother throat. They're still working out their differences so you just gotta keep in mind to steer clear from them and let them work it out. ;)
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Anyways, I look forward to some interesting chats, discussions and no doubt some rather heated debates as well as sharing my knowledge of Boxing with you and of course gaining as much knowledge from some of you more knowledgeable posters!
Wishing you all a very Happy New Year.
The Wind.
Hope to see you around for times to come.
Merry X-Mas & Happy New Year. 8)
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I would like to think quality over quantity.
:appl: This is something I go by. I always make this exact comment.
Quality over quantity. :)
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Who's your top ten boxers of all time?
These are fighters whom I've seen. I wont list any fighters whom I don't know a whole lot of. Fighters like Pep, Benny, Langford....
SRR
Ali
Armstrong
Louis
Duran
SRL
JCC
Pernell
Monzon
Alexis Arguello
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Welcome 'The Wind' and CC 2 u ;)
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pepp
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Roberto Duran
6 Jimmy Wilde
7 Benny Leonard
8 Roy Jones Jnr
9 Harrry Greb
10 Pernell Whitaker
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My personal top 10?
This is just based on who I like not records or titles or opposition.
1) Mohammed Ali
2) Joe Frazier
3) Marvin Hagler
4) Roberto Duran
5) Joe Louis
6) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
7) Marco Antonio Barrera
8) Naseem Hamed
9) Matthew Saad Mohammad
10) Mickey Ward/John Duddy these two have no right to be here but its my f'in list so back off!
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Always nice to see a "hover" guest jump Into the Mix.You are now amongst the most in depth and free swinging mass of Fight fans around.You can learn many things ,and even more so learn what you once thought you already knew. Welcome aboard newbie,CC to ya. My top ten favorites all time:
1.Evander Holyfield
2.Nigel Benn
3.Michael Carbajal
4.Harry Greb
5.Matthew Saad Muhammad
6.Bernard Hopkins
7.Azumah Nelson
8.Marco A. Barrera
9.Livingston "Ras-I" Bramble
10.Salvador Sanchez
11.Joichiro Tatsuyoshi
12.Benny Leonard
13.James Toney
14.Juan M. Marquez
15.Jung-koo-Chang
16.Antonio Margarito
17.Carmen Basillio
18.Genaro Hernandez
19.Daniel Zaragoza
20.Marvin Johnson All right,So top 20 all time favorites.See ya wind.
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Welcome aboard Wind ;)
My top ten are somewhere along these lines, in no particular order:
1. Lennox Lewis by far my favorite
2. Bob Foster
3. Michael Carbajal
4. Jerry Quarry
5. Emmanuel Augustus
6. George Foreman
7. Kelly Pavlik
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
9. Micky Ward
10.Joe Louis
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These are from fighters i've seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Joe Louis
5 Roberto Duran
6 Julio Cesar Chavez
7 Pernell Whitaker
8 Sugar Ray Leonard
9 Archie Moore
10 Carlos Monzon
Heres my other list based on just accomplishments, some of these fighters i have hardly seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pep
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Harry Greb
6 Joe Louis
7 Roberto Duran
8 Benny Leonard
9 Jimmy Wilde
10 Sam Langford
Top 10 Hardest Hitters Not In Order
Julian Jackson
George Foreman
Earnie Shavers
Wilfredo Gomez
Thomas Hearns
Rocky Marciano
Jimmy Wilde
Archie Moore
Sandy Saddler
Mike Tyson
Top 10 Most Skillful Fighters Not In Order
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Ricardo Lopez
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Alexis Arguello
Salvador Sanchez
Shane Mosley
Muhammad Ali
This list was based on fighters where i have seen plenty of footage of them.
Top 10 Most Exciting Fighters
Aaron Pryor
Bobby Chacon
Arturo Gatti
Julian Jackson
Thomas Hearns
Humberto Gonzalez
Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Jeff Fenech
Terry Norris
Nigel Benn.
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Originally Posted by Rican
My question to you is: How do you pronounce the name? Is it "wind" as in "run like the wind," or "wind" as in "wind-up"?
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Originally Posted by The Wind
It's "The Wind" like the one "that sweaps someone from within under their feet"
That's very romantic. Our resident "GAY" CuteMick will love that. He's been dying for someone new to sweep him off of his feet.
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or like you say "run like the wind,"
Which is what I would expect you to do when our resident "GAY" CuteMick comes calling for you to sweep him off of his feet...run like the gotdam wind, Wind.
;D
Oh CuteMick's G-A-Y alright...ask him why he's called "BELTNECK" around here. He'll love that.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Rican
My question to you is: How do you pronounce the name? Is it "wind" as in "run like the wind," or "wind" as in "wind-up"?
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Originally Posted by The Wind
It's "The Wind" like the one "that sweaps someone from within under their feet"
That's very romantic. Our resident "GAY" CuteMick will love that. He's been dying for someone new to sweep him off of his feet.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
or like you say "run like the wind,"
Which is what I would expect you to do when our resident "GAY" CuteMick comes calling for you to sweep him off of his feet...run like the gotdam wind, Wind.
;D
Oh CuteMick's G-A-Y alright...ask him why he's called "BELTNECK" around here. He'll love that.
A very useful insight about other members, I have nothing against Gay's but I'm strictly a ladies man.
Some good fighters being mentioned on your lists, all the usual greats that be mentioned, I'm surprised not to see Hagler on more of your lists?
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
These are from fighters i've seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Joe Louis
5 Roberto Duran
6 Julio Cesar Chavez
7 Pernell Whitaker
8 Sugar Ray Leonard
9 Archie Moore
10 Carlos Monzon
Heres my other list based on just accomplishments, some of these fighters i have hardly seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pep
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Harry Greb
6 Joe Louis
7 Roberto Duran
8 Benny Leonard
9 Jimmy Wilde
10 Sam Langford
Top 10 Hardest Hitters Not In Order
Julian Jackson
George Foreman
Earnie Shavers
Wilfredo Gomez
Thomas Hearns
Rocky Marciano
Jimmy Wilde
Archie Moore
Sandy Saddler
Mike Tyson
Top 10 Most Skillful Fighters Not In Order
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Ricardo Lopez
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Alexis Arguello
Salvador Sanchez
Shane Mosley
Muhammad Ali
This list was based on fighters where i have seen plenty of footage of them.
Top 10 Most Exciting Fighters
Aaron Pryor
Bobby Chacon
Arturo Gatti
Julian Jackson
Thomas Hearns
Humberto Gonzalez
Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Jeff Fenech
Terry Norris
Nigel Benn.
Cheers for the exra effort on you lists.
I personaly would have included Duran in the the Most Skilled, Exciting fighters and Hardest highters list.
I think it's alarming how Duran isn't given credit for his Defensive skills, and in terms of general skill again he's up there, cutting the ring off, slipping punches and of course with ref to Hardest Hitters he has plenty of KO's. just a thought.
What's with the Sad Click? not sure who that was but can't say I deserve that, please expalin yourself.
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Have Cool click number 10 off me mate ;) welcome to the forum have fun
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Originally Posted by The Wind
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Rican
My question to you is: How do you pronounce the name? Is it "wind" as in "run like the wind," or "wind" as in "wind-up"?
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Originally Posted by The Wind
It's "The Wind" like the one "that sweaps someone from within under their feet"
That's very romantic. Our resident "GAY" CuteMick will love that. He's been dying for someone new to sweep him off of his feet.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
or like you say "run like the wind,"
Which is what I would expect you to do when our resident "GAY" CuteMick comes calling for you to sweep him off of his feet...run like the gotdam wind, Wind.
;D
Oh CuteMick's G-A-Y alright...ask him why he's called "BELTNECK" around here. He'll love that.
A very useful insight about other members, I have nothing against Gay's but I'm strictly a ladies man.
Some good fighters being mentioned on your lists, all the usual greats that be mentioned, I'm surprised not to see Hagler on more of your lists?
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
These are from fighters i've seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Joe Louis
5 Roberto Duran
6 Julio Cesar Chavez
7 Pernell Whitaker
8 Sugar Ray Leonard
9 Archie Moore
10 Carlos Monzon
Heres my other list based on just accomplishments, some of these fighters i have hardly seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pep
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Harry Greb
6 Joe Louis
7 Roberto Duran
8 Benny Leonard
9 Jimmy Wilde
10 Sam Langford
Top 10 Hardest Hitters Not In Order
Julian Jackson
George Foreman
Earnie Shavers
Wilfredo Gomez
Thomas Hearns
Rocky Marciano
Jimmy Wilde
Archie Moore
Sandy Saddler
Mike Tyson
Top 10 Most Skillful Fighters Not In Order
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Ricardo Lopez
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Alexis Arguello
Salvador Sanchez
Shane Mosley
Muhammad Ali
This list was based on fighters where i have seen plenty of footage of them.
Top 10 Most Exciting Fighters
Aaron Pryor
Bobby Chacon
Arturo Gatti
Julian Jackson
Thomas Hearns
Humberto Gonzalez
Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Jeff Fenech
Terry Norris
Nigel Benn.
Cheers for the exra effort on you lists.
I personaly would have included Duran in the the Most Skilled, Exciting fighters and Hardest highters list.
I think it's alarming how Duran isn't given credit for his Defensive skills, and in terms of general skill again he's up there, cutting the ring off, slipping punches and of course with ref to Hardest Hitters he has plenty of KO's. just a thought.
What's with the Sad Click? not sure who that was but can't say I deserve that, please expalin yourself.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
A very useful insight about other members, I have nothing against Gay's but I'm strictly a ladies man.
He is joking bro Mick has a girlfriend, Wacko is married, and i not long ago got engaged to my girlfriend who i have been with since High school.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
I personaly would have included Duran in the the Most Skilled, Exciting fighters and Hardest highters list.
Depends what you look for in skills me personally i like slick boxers like Mayweather, Whitaker, or precise punchers like Arguello.
Not sure about Duran being in the most exciting fighters if all time list, even though he is up there the fighters i mentioned may of not been as good as Duran. But they were more exciting IMO. guys like Chacon, Norris, were always in wars very entertaining to watch.
As for Hardest hitters list a case could be made for Duran at Lightweight, but most of the fighters i mentioned could spark someone out with 1 punch, with Duran i feel he used to wear guys down with barrage of punches.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
think it's alarming how Duran isn't given credit for his Defensive skills, and in terms of general skill again he's up there, cutting the ring off, slipping punches and of course with ref to Hardest Hitters he has plenty of KO's. just a thought.
What's with the Sad Click? not sure who that was but can't say I deserve that, please expalin yourself.
I give Duran plenty of credit for his defensive skills, he is one of the best defensive fighters of all time at coming forward. Not many boxers who are aggressive as Duran are so good on defense.
A sad click is given when someone don't agree with your post or they just do it for the hell of it. You can only give out 1 Sadclick or Coolclick every 24 hours, i did not give you a Sadclick i gave you a Coolclick earlier.
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Welcome Wind :clap: Have a :coolclick: on me.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by The Wind
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Rican
My question to you is: How do you pronounce the name? Is it "wind" as in "run like the wind," or "wind" as in "wind-up"?
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Originally Posted by The Wind
It's "The Wind" like the one "that sweaps someone from within under their feet"
That's very romantic. Our resident "GAY" CuteMick will love that. He's been dying for someone new to sweep him off of his feet.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
or like you say "run like the wind,"
Which is what I would expect you to do when our resident "GAY" CuteMick comes calling for you to sweep him off of his feet...run like the gotdam wind, Wind.
;D
Oh CuteMick's G-A-Y alright...ask him why he's called "BELTNECK" around here. He'll love that.
A very useful insight about other members, I have nothing against Gay's but I'm strictly a ladies man.
Some good fighters being mentioned on your lists, all the usual greats that be mentioned, I'm surprised not to see Hagler on more of your lists?
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
These are from fighters i've seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Joe Louis
5 Roberto Duran
6 Julio Cesar Chavez
7 Pernell Whitaker
8 Sugar Ray Leonard
9 Archie Moore
10 Carlos Monzon
Heres my other list based on just accomplishments, some of these fighters i have hardly seen.
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pep
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Harry Greb
6 Joe Louis
7 Roberto Duran
8 Benny Leonard
9 Jimmy Wilde
10 Sam Langford
Top 10 Hardest Hitters Not In Order
Julian Jackson
George Foreman
Earnie Shavers
Wilfredo Gomez
Thomas Hearns
Rocky Marciano
Jimmy Wilde
Archie Moore
Sandy Saddler
Mike Tyson
Top 10 Most Skillful Fighters Not In Order
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Ricardo Lopez
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Alexis Arguello
Salvador Sanchez
Shane Mosley
Muhammad Ali
This list was based on fighters where i have seen plenty of footage of them.
Top 10 Most Exciting Fighters
Aaron Pryor
Bobby Chacon
Arturo Gatti
Julian Jackson
Thomas Hearns
Humberto Gonzalez
Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Jeff Fenech
Terry Norris
Nigel Benn.
Cheers for the exra effort on you lists.
I personaly would have included Duran in the the Most Skilled, Exciting fighters and Hardest highters list.
I think it's alarming how Duran isn't given credit for his Defensive skills, and in terms of general skill again he's up there, cutting the ring off, slipping punches and of course with ref to Hardest Hitters he has plenty of KO's. just a thought.
What's with the Sad Click? not sure who that was but can't say I deserve that, please expalin yourself.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
A very useful insight about other members, I have nothing against Gay's but I'm strictly a ladies man.
He is joking bro Mick has a girlfriend, Wacko is married, and i not long ago got engaged to my girlfriend who i have been with since High school.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
I personaly would have included Duran in the the Most Skilled, Exciting fighters and Hardest highters list.
Depends what you look for in skills me personally i like slick boxers like Mayweather, Whitaker, or precise punchers like Arguello.
Not sure about Duran being in the most exciting fighters if all time list, even though he is up there the fighters i mentioned may of not been as good as Duran. But they were more exciting IMO. guys like Chacon, Norris, were always in wars very entertaining to watch.
As for Hardest hitters list a case could be made for Duran at Lightweight, but most of the fighters i mentioned could spark someone out with 1 punch, with Duran i feel he used to wear guys down with barrage of punches.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
think it's alarming how Duran isn't given credit for his Defensive skills, and in terms of general skill again he's up there, cutting the ring off, slipping punches and of course with ref to Hardest Hitters he has plenty of KO's. just a thought.
What's with the Sad Click? not sure who that was but can't say I deserve that, please expalin yourself.
I give Duran plenty of credit for his defensive skills, he is one of the best defensive fighters of all time at coming forward. Not many boxers who are aggressive as Duran are so good on defense.
A sad click is given when someone don't agree with your post or they just do it for the hell of it. You can only give out 1 Sadclick or Coolclick every 24 hours, i did not give you a Sadclick i gave you a Coolclick earlier.
Thanks to you all for the Cool Clicks and when I'm in a position to give you CC's back I will.
Ice Cold Boxing I didn't mean you who gave me a Sad Click, I don't know who it was, maybe someone who didn't agree with me becoming a new member?
I think Arguello was very skillful, I think his Jab and the accuracy of his Jab was very good but there was alot more to him than just his Jab.
Duran at Lightweight did have a alot of early KO's, Rounds 1 and 2 etc and as he moved up in weight he naturally could only take some of the power with him. Yes Duran is one of my all time favourite fighters, still to this day I'm amazed that (a natural lightweight) ( and aged 37) could put someone like Barkley down.
By the way congratulations on your engagement, I'm married aswell, Good Luck.
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Yeah, don't worry too much about the Sad Clicks, as you will get them for just breathing too loud sometimes ;D Have a CC on me, as I forgot to do it last night. And IceColdBoxing is a veritable freakin' library on this sport. I couldn't imagine him not being here. Hopefully his fiance will let him come play on Saddo's every now and then. A stand up dude is ICB ;)
By the way, I'm the resident retard, so just ignore me like most everyone else does ;D
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It would be good if we could see who gave us SC's and there reason. But Wind, LEGION is right, you will get them for nothing. In fact, i will get around 10 sad clicks for this post.
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Its Bilbo, he doesnt want anyone to beat his CC to SC ratio ;)
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Its Bilbo, he doesnt want anyone to beat his CC to SC ratio ;)
You're probably right, it must have been BubbleBoyBilbo :lickish: They say the empty can rattles the most ;)
