Calzaghe Will Be The Most Dangerous Challenge And Threat To Hopkins So Far

I sat back and thought about it, Calzaghe has definetly earned my respect after I was one of his biggest detractors and I can call myself a bonafied fan of the man after how he handled his business with Kessler. Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

In his super fights after Jones Hopkins has always been the bigger man or was fighting someone that was moving out of their natural weight

Trinidad
Delahoya
Wright

Calzaghe will be more than just fine putting on 7 lbs, he will be capable of putting it on Nard... As crafty as Hopkins is I am pretty certain Joe will duff him up pretty bad, unfortunately Joe will get "0" credit for wiping out Hopkins since he is 40+ years old

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

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Totally agree Calzaghe is one of a kind he is a skillful southpaw, with an excellent array of punches. I think based on work rate alone Calzaghe will win this, Hopkins only throws about 15 punches a round i really can't see someone with such a low output beating Calzaghe. But i do see Hopkins using clinches and rough tactics to off set Calzaghe's rhythm and try and frustrate Calzaghe, plus Hopkins has some good technical skills i expect Calzaghe to win but not easily by any means.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I sat back and thought about it, Calzaghe has definetly earned my respect after I was one of his biggest detractors and I can call myself a bonafied fan of the man after how he handled his business with Kessler. Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

In his super fights after Jones Hopkins has always been the bigger man or was fighting someone that was moving out of their natural weight

Trinidad
Delahoya
Wright

Calzaghe will be more than just fine putting on 7 lbs, he will be capable of putting it on Nard... As crafty as Hopkins is I am pretty certain Joe will duff him up pretty bad, unfortunately Joe will get "0" credit for wiping out Hopkins since he is 40+ years old

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Sorry but I just dont see it that way. Yes joe will be one of his biggest challenges but I only attribute that to his age. Coome on hopkins is in no way the fighter he use to be but he still has a good chance to win. That alone is a testament to how good hopkins is. Joe may win a decision but he aint duffing bernard up and you know it. Hop has never been beat up and I dont see joe doin it. You guys seem not to notice but when has joe shared a ring with anyone nearly as skilled and mentally tough as hop. Dont dare say kessler or lacy. Do you think hop is gonna let him throw 100 punches a round? Do you think he is gonna be able to hit hop enough to duff him up? If prime roy who is one of the fastest guys I ever seen couldnt do it what make people think joe will. Joe may win but he is the one who is gonna get roughed up. The real question is is joe mentally strong enough to beat hop? If joe jumps in on hop like he did with lacy and kessler he will get countered alot. It will b a good fight but anyone who thinks joe will have an easy time is a fool. He may win but it will only be by close decision. Old man hop still got enough to make joe look bad.

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Originally Posted by MRMANICK

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I sat back and thought about it, Calzaghe has definetly earned my respect after I was one of his biggest detractors and I can call myself a bonafied fan of the man after how he handled his business with Kessler. Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

In his super fights after Jones Hopkins has always been the bigger man or was fighting someone that was moving out of their natural weight

Trinidad
Delahoya
Wright

Calzaghe will be more than just fine putting on 7 lbs, he will be capable of putting it on Nard... As crafty as Hopkins is I am pretty certain Joe will duff him up pretty bad, unfortunately Joe will get "0" credit for wiping out Hopkins since he is 40+ years old

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Sorry but I just dont see it that way. Yes joe will be one of his biggest challenges but I only attribute that to his age. Coome on hopkins is in no way the fighter he use to be but he still has a good chance to win. That alone is a testament to how good hopkins is. Joe may win a decision but he aint duffing bernard up and you know it. Hop has never been beat up and I dont see joe doin it. You guys seem not to notice but when has joe shared a ring with anyone nearly as skilled and mentally tough as hop. Dont dare say kessler or lacy. Do you think hop is gonna let him throw 100 punches a round? Do you think he is gonna be able to hit hop enough to duff him up? If prime roy who is one of the fastest guys I ever seen couldnt do it what make people think joe will. Joe may win but he is the one who is gonna get roughed up. The real question is is joe mentally strong enough to beat hop? If joe jumps in on hop like he did with lacy and kessler he will get countered alot. It will b a good fight but anyone who thinks joe will have an easy time is a fool. He may win but it will only be by close decision. Old man hop still got enough to make joe look bad.

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Here is a fact for you. The biggest scalps on Nards resume were undersized fighters moving up in weight and who were physically smaller

Wright
Trinidad
Delahoya

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Originally Posted by MRMANICK

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I sat back and thought about it, Calzaghe has definetly earned my respect after I was one of his biggest detractors and I can call myself a bonafied fan of the man after how he handled his business with Kessler. Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

In his super fights after Jones Hopkins has always been the bigger man or was fighting someone that was moving out of their natural weight

Trinidad
Delahoya
Wright

Calzaghe will be more than just fine putting on 7 lbs, he will be capable of putting it on Nard... As crafty as Hopkins is I am pretty certain Joe will duff him up pretty bad, unfortunately Joe will get "0" credit for wiping out Hopkins since he is 40+ years old

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Sorry but I just dont see it that way. Yes joe will be one of his biggest challenges but I only attribute that to his age. Coome on hopkins is in no way the fighter he use to be but he still has a good chance to win. That alone is a testament to how good hopkins is. Joe may win a decision but he aint duffing bernard up and you know it. Hop has never been beat up and I dont see joe doin it. You guys seem not to notice but when has joe shared a ring with anyone nearly as skilled and mentally tough as hop. Dont dare say kessler or lacy. Do you think hop is gonna let him throw 100 punches a round? Do you think he is gonna be able to hit hop enough to duff him up? If prime roy who is one of the fastest guys I ever seen couldnt do it what make people think joe will. Joe may win but he is the one who is gonna get roughed up. The real question is is joe mentally strong enough to beat hop? If joe jumps in on hop like he did with lacy and kessler he will get countered alot. It will b a good fight but anyone who thinks joe will have an easy time is a fool. He may win but it will only be by close decision. Old man hop still got enough to make joe look bad.

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CC, I agree with a lot of this and the part I bolded is one that I've been trying to make a lot about this fight. Its easy for Joe to throw a hundred punches a round when somebody's standing right in front of him or better yet coming at him but its a whole lot harder to throw a hundred punches a round against a guy circling all night, not many fighters have smarter movement than Hopkins, some guys just run around the ring without any kind of plan, Hopkins circles a guy, moving left, coming back right, not letting a guy get set. Hopkins is a hard guy to trap against the ropes. I seriously don't see Joe throwing a hundred punches a round in this fight.

I disagree, i thought Tarver was B-Hop's biggest threat and look what happened there

As far as the title of the thread, I don't disagree much with that but this idea that Hopkins gonna get beat down, nah Bernard's too slick for that.

Usually I like to support my American's but I simply do not like Bernard Hopkins, I hope Joe takes it if they fight, but I doubt it.

I think Calzaghe beats Hopkins but Hopkins keeps coming through big fights which he was suppose to lose.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I sat back and thought about it, Calzaghe has definetly earned my respect after I was one of his biggest detractors and I can call myself a bonafied fan of the man after how he handled his business with Kessler. Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

In his super fights after Jones Hopkins has always been the bigger man or was fighting someone that was moving out of their natural weight

Trinidad
Delahoya
Wright

Calzaghe will be more than just fine putting on 7 lbs, he will be capable of putting it on Nard... As crafty as Hopkins is I am pretty certain Joe will duff him up pretty bad, unfortunately Joe will get "0" credit for wiping out Hopkins since he is 40+ years old

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Sorry but I just dont see it that way. Yes joe will be one of his biggest challenges but I only attribute that to his age. Coome on hopkins is in no way the fighter he use to be but he still has a good chance to win. That alone is a testament to how good hopkins is. Joe may win a decision but he aint duffing bernard up and you know it. Hop has never been beat up and I dont see joe doin it. You guys seem not to notice but when has joe shared a ring with anyone nearly as skilled and mentally tough as hop. Dont dare say kessler or lacy. Do you think hop is gonna let him throw 100 punches a round? Do you think he is gonna be able to hit hop enough to duff him up? If prime roy who is one of the fastest guys I ever seen couldnt do it what make people think joe will. Joe may win but he is the one who is gonna get roughed up. The real question is is joe mentally strong enough to beat hop? If joe jumps in on hop like he did with lacy and kessler he will get countered alot. It will b a good fight but anyone who thinks joe will have an easy time is a fool. He may win but it will only be by close decision. Old man hop still got enough to make joe look bad.

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Here is a fact for you. The biggest scalps on Nards resume were undersized fighters moving up in weight and who were physically smaller

Wright
Trinidad
Delahoya

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You call them undersized as a way to knock Hopkins. But both Trinidad and Wright were both favored to win going into the fight with Hopkins. As well as the bigger Tarver.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I sat back and thought about it, Calzaghe has definetly earned my respect after I was one of his biggest detractors and I can call myself a bonafied fan of the man after how he handled his business with Kessler. Hopkins will never have faced anyone like Calzaghe, who can match him for size and body density along with Joe having an unreal workrate in which he will be windmilling Hopkins all nite, also Hopkins wont be able to manhandle Calzaghe like alot of his other opponents.

In his super fights after Jones Hopkins has always been the bigger man or was fighting someone that was moving out of their natural weight

Trinidad
Delahoya
Wright

Calzaghe will be more than just fine putting on 7 lbs, he will be capable of putting it on Nard... As crafty as Hopkins is I am pretty certain Joe will duff him up pretty bad, unfortunately Joe will get "0" credit for wiping out Hopkins since he is 40+ years old

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A relivity easy win for joe>

I have come around on Calzaghe ,I like his attitude and fighting spirit.His work rate is top notch.I dont see a problem with the weight increase and I dont think he will Blink being in the ring with Hopkins regardless of where they fight.Being busy and windmill throwing is great but sometimes less is more.He has to be able to hurt Hopkins,deal with the inside rough and slick tactics and not get syched out,Hopkins is now a conservative sharpshooter.Hopkins has a way of breaking guys mentally at first and then breaking them Physically over late rounds slowly........sometimes too slowly.
Hopkins has been written off more times than a batch of default loans.He is a master tactition and a true ring general.Over the years he has built a love/hate relationship with some fans and media and I think thats what keeps him on top,confident guile & great skill.He really has shown me no major signs of slippage.Joes two fisted attack, moxie and determination are hard to match but I think Hopkins takes this one.once Calzaghe pauses and waits,Hopkins will pick his shots.And if Joe did force an exchange ,I think Hopkins Left hook,straight right,clinch/head,and chin will offset Joe's momentum (and those low hands).Hope this is made.Calzaghe deserves it and Hopkins should go out meeting the best.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs In 'Nawlins

I have come around on Calzaghe ,I like his attitude and fighting spirit.His work rate is top notch.I dont see a problem with the weight increase and I dont think he will Blink being in the ring with Hopkins regardless of where they fight.Being busy and windmill throwing is great but sometimes less is more.He has to be able to hurt Hopkins,deal with the inside rough and slick tactics and not get syched out,Hopkins is now a conservative sharpshooter.Hopkins has a way of breaking guys mentally at first and then breaking them Physically over late rounds slowly........sometimes too slowly.
Hopkins has been written off more times than a batch of default loans.He is a master tactition and a true ring general.Over the years he has built a love/hate relationship with some fans and media and I think thats what keeps him on top,confident guile & great skill.He really has shown me no major signs of slippage.Joes two fisted attack, moxie and determination are hard to match but I think Hopkins takes this one.once Calzaghe pauses and waits,Hopkins will pick his shots.And if Joe did force an exchange ,I think Hopkins Left hook,straight right,clinch/head,and chin will offset Joe's momentum (and those low hands).Hope this is made.Calzaghe deserves it and Hopkins should go out meeting the best.

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Excellent observation. I agree Hopkins takes it.

And fix your fucking sig. It's wrong. What you think wasn't going to notice? Your ass got knocked out along with Hatton.

This is easy work for Joe.

Hopkins isn't hardly active enough in his fights as it is. When he's in there with Calzaghe, he's gonna look like he's pushing 60 years old.

Calzaghe wins AT LEAST 10 out of 12 rounds and forces Hopkins into retirement.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs In 'Nawlins

I have come around on Calzaghe ,I like his attitude and fighting spirit.His work rate is top notch.I dont see a problem with the weight increase and I dont think he will Blink being in the ring with Hopkins regardless of where they fight.Being busy and windmill throwing is great but sometimes less is more.He has to be able to hurt Hopkins,deal with the inside rough and slick tactics and not get syched out,Hopkins is now a conservative sharpshooter.Hopkins has a way of breaking guys mentally at first and then breaking them Physically over late rounds slowly........sometimes too slowly.
Hopkins has been written off more times than a batch of default loans.He is a master tactition and a true ring general.Over the years he has built a love/hate relationship with some fans and media and I think thats what keeps him on top,confident guile & great skill.He really has shown me no major signs of slippage.Joes two fisted attack, moxie and determination are hard to match but I think Hopkins takes this one.once Calzaghe pauses and waits,Hopkins will pick his shots.And if Joe did force an exchange ,I think Hopkins Left hook,straight right,clinch/head,and chin will offset Joe's momentum (and those low hands).Hope this is made.Calzaghe deserves it and Hopkins should go out meeting the best.

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Excellent observation. I agree Hopkins takes it.

And fix your F****** sig. It's wrong. What you think wasn't going to notice? Your a** got knocked out along with Hatton.

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Sorry Poppi, I just cant get off this damn corner.....Im a semi owned trick.Haaa,8 more days bro. Alright,i be fixing it. :-[ ;D

It's hard to go against Hopkins at this point or any other time TBH...Just when you think he is losing a step he proves everyone wrong with a performance better then ever....

With that being said the Same goes for Calzaghe....Every time you think this will be the one he puts on a masterpiece....

This is a hard one...I think the biggest factor will be I guess what you would call "Fighting"....For lack of a better term....Hopkins is slick and he knows all the old school tricks...the little things that turn things from a boxing match to a Fight...Hitting the hip, stepping on the foot...Holding and hitting,,,cheap shots etc....not calling Hopkins dirty just saying he knows how to use the little things to throw a guy off...Not really sure how Joe will react to some of those tactics?....

The again when was the last time Hopkins had a guy outright pursue him in the ring?....Not giving him time to get off and sneak in the little things?....We all know Hopkins does not like a fast pace and will avaoid it at all cost...Hell it cost him not only his title but the chance to regain it....Fact is that traight started becoming really eveident as his biggest flaw in the Eastman bout...Howard was giving B-Hop all he could handle for the 1st 6.....

This is a pickem IMO...Like I said everytime you count one of these guys out they prove you wrong...With them going against each other you almost think that any choice you make could be the wrong one

Being a huge Hopkins fan...this will be my second time voting against him.

The first was against Tarver & the weight disparity.

This time...I'm going with four things in opposition...age, speed, accuracy, & awkwardness.

Calzaghe will either beat him...or make him look horrible as fuck!

calzaghe all day long

size wise tarver and taylor were bigger then hopkins so its not like he fights just little guys

yehand looked what happened in his fights with taylor