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Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
Ok Guys/Girls its time to let your opinion be known on what could be one of the best fights of 2008. The 1st fight was an awesome fight with Marquez getting floored 3 times and then coming back to win majority of the rounds.
Pac Fans Will Argue = Pacquiao has improved since the last meeting, and he will overwhelm Marquez. No way will Marquez survive this time Pacquiao will be looking to finish Marquez and make a statement, the reason why he didn't look impressive in his last few fights is because they haven't been against good opponents and he couldn't get himself up for the fights, plus its hard to look good against Barrera who was on the move constantly and went there not to be KO. Plus what are Marquez fans on about didn't he KO Morales in 3 rounds ??
Marquez Fans Will Argue = Marquez has Pacquiao's number with his counter punching style, he will finish what he did the 1st time without getting floored multiple times, Plus Pacquiao's improvements have not shown in his last few fights except against a badly shot Morales. If Pacquiao fights the same way as he did against Barrera he will lose a clear cut UD. Plus Marquez will not get lured into a brawl like Morales does what the hell are Pacquiao fans on about ??
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
I voted Marquez by decision, the scorecards will read 115-113 116-112 116-113.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
I voted Marquez by decision, the scorecards will read 115-113 116-112 116-113.
I don't know man. JMM likes to go toe to toe now a days. And that would make him more vunerable to get himself in trouble. I just don't see this fight reaching 12 rounds. Not unless JMM avoids Pac's big punches like MAB did.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
aww i just posted a poll too :(
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
If Marquez can fight like he did last time then he hammers the Pac who fought Barrera last time out. Its not as simple as that though.
A tricky fight. Hopefully, Marquez doesnt age overnight and we get a good fight.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
I think Manny will win this one. He needs a fight like this to truelly pick him up. JMM and MP are the best in their weight class and they know this. They have potential to have a full out war but i think MP has improved a lot since that fight and he knows if he loses this its all over. Same for JMM. But that power and fast hands i think will really put him on the back foot. But the combinations of JMM are unreal. Its going to be a war I know that but i just believe manny can do it and he will do.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
For the final time on this fight, Pac by 3, more likely in 2... All it takes for pac is to charge in from the start, take some in and give some out and as soon as Marquez catches the big ones, it's finished...
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by pacfan
For the final time on this fight, Pac by 3, more likely in 2... All it takes for pac is to charge in from the start, take some in and give some out and as soon as Marquez catches the big ones, it's finished...
Yep, if JMM engages,... night night time for him.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
Morales wasn't the best boxer and he kept Pac of him in their first fight, Marquez will do the same. He's to smart to engage.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
Pacquiao via points(although heart says JMM and I'll totally be rootingfor him)
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
Like i said in the other thread Marquez will know what he is up against this time. He will be cautious in the early going learning from his mistake, then when he gets his rhythm going he will start to pick off Pacquiao as he is coming in. I expect Pacquiao to take the early rounds but round about the 3rd or 4th round, it will be all Marquez as he boxes a superb fight and wins most of the rounds en route to a UD.
115-113 116-112 116-113.
That will be the scorecards ;)
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
I don't know about this fight. Marquez is more aggressive now partly because I think Golden Boy is pushing him to be more "exciting" to appeal to the Mexican community. The thing that worries me about Marquez is that he could have easily counter-punched Barrera and fought a much smarter fight like he usually does and EASILY cruised to a decision but he wanted to go life and death with Barrera to prove that he's not just a counter puncher. If JMM goes back to the way he used to box effectively and counterpunch, he wins a close decision. If he comes with that same macho style that he used against Barrera, he's getting KTFO.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
But MAB doesn't have the same power as Pacman
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Pacquiao via points(although heart says JMM and I'll totally be rootingfor him)
If ever it's by points, I'd favor Marquez - or a draw at the best with a little magic, of course.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Like i said in the other thread Marquez will know what he is up against this time. He will be cautious in the early going learning from his mistake, then when he gets his rhythm going he will start to pick off Pacquiao as he is coming in. I expect Pacquiao to take the early rounds but round about the 3rd or 4th round, it will be all Marquez as he boxes a superb fight and wins most of the rounds en route to a UD.
115-113 116-112 116-113.
That will be the scorecards ;)
I don't agree with that but I like your scoring, icecold, you seem to have really figured it out. It's as precise as it can get!
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by pacfan
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Pacquiao via points(although heart says JMM and I'll totally be rootingfor him)
If ever it's by points, I'd favor Marquez - or a draw at the best with a little magic, of course.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Like i said in the other thread Marquez will know what he is up against this time. He will be cautious in the early going learning from his mistake, then when he gets his rhythm going he will start to pick off Pacquiao as he is coming in. I expect Pacquiao to take the early rounds but round about the 3rd or 4th round, it will be all Marquez as he boxes a superb fight and wins most of the rounds en route to a UD.
115-113 116-112 116-113.
That will be the scorecards ;)
I don't agree with that but I like your scoring, icecold, you seem to have really figured it out. It's as precise as it can get!
Thanks like i said i expect a very hard fight, Marquez will have to really dig deep to win this fight. If he uses the right tactics he has a good chance of winning. But whoever wins i really want the winner to face either Juan Diaz or Joan Guzman. Can you just imagine how good of a boxing match Joan Guzman vs Juan Manuel Marquez would be ?? and can you imagine how much of a brawl Juan Diaz vs Manny Pacquiao would be ??
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by pacfan
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Pacquiao via points(although heart says JMM and I'll totally be rootingfor him)
If ever it's by points, I'd favor Marquez - or a draw at the best with a little magic, of course.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Like i said in the other thread Marquez will know what he is up against this time. He will be cautious in the early going learning from his mistake, then when he gets his rhythm going he will start to pick off Pacquiao as he is coming in. I expect Pacquiao to take the early rounds but round about the 3rd or 4th round, it will be all Marquez as he boxes a superb fight and wins most of the rounds en route to a UD.
115-113 116-112 116-113.
That will be the scorecards ;)
I don't agree with that but I like your scoring, icecold, you seem to have really figured it out. It's as precise as it can get!
Thanks like i said i expect a very hard fight, Marquez will have to really dig deep to win this fight. If he uses the right tactics he has a good chance of winning. But whoever wins i really want to winner to face either Juan Diaz or Joan Guzman. Can you just imagine how good of a boxing match Joan Guzman vs Juan Manuel Marquez would be ?? and can you imagine how much of a brawl Juan Diaz vs Manny Pacquiao would be ??
I'd take Marquez and Diaz to win those 2 fights
and why not throw Valero vs. Katsidis on that dream card as well. That woul be incredible
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
But MAB doesn't have the same power as Pacman
Didn't MAB floor JMM too?..
I think so.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
I don't know about this fight. Marquez is more aggressive now partly because I think Golden Boy is pushing him to be more "exciting" to appeal to the Mexican community. The thing that worries me about Marquez is that he could have easily counter-punched Barrera and fought a much smarter fight like he usually does and EASILY cruised to a decision but he wanted to go life and death with Barrera to prove that he's not just a counter puncher. If JMM goes back to the way he used to box effectively and counterpunch, he wins a close decision. If he comes with that same macho style that he used against Barrera, he's getting KTFO.
That is what most pacfans are hoping for. ;D
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
But MAB doesn't have the same power as Pacman
Didn't MAB floor JMM too?..
I think so.
He did. But that was a case of Marquez being of balance at the time of being caught. It wasn't really down to Barrera's power. Plus, for the record, the knockdown did not officially count because Barrera hit Marquez while JMM was on the floor and even with the second blow, Marquez got back up.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
But MAB doesn't have the same power as Pacman
Didn't MAB floor JMM too?..
I think so.
He did. But that was a case of Marquez being of balance at the time of being caught. It wasn't really down to Barrera's power. Plus, for the record, the knockdown did not officially count because Barrera hit Marquez while JMM was on the floor and even with the second blow, Marquez got back up.
Off balance? Nope, JMM just didn't see it comin. JMM reached his comfort zone but he got caught. He knew he was ahead on points and got a little careless.
That was a good/clean punch from MAB. You gotta give MAB credit from that.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
But MAB doesn't have the same power as Pacman
Didn't MAB floor JMM too?..
I think so.
He did. But that was a case of Marquez being of balance at the time of being caught. It wasn't really down to Barrera's power. Plus, for the record, the knockdown did not officially count because Barrera hit Marquez while JMM was on the floor and even with the second blow, Marquez got back up.
Off balance? Nope, JMM just didn't see it comin. JMM reached his comfort zone but he got caught. He knew he was ahead on points and got a little careless.
That was a good/clean punch from MAB. You gotta give MAB credit from that.
Yep agreed with that Marquez wasn't off balance its just he didn't see it coming. And the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
I like Marquez in this one.Hes taking some damage and is nearing the other side of the hill but I think he still has enough to pull out a nice victory.Manny Blitzed him big time and should have put the fear of god in him but It was Marquez making the adjustments and schooling him late.Marquez is way to wise to stand with manny and I dont think he has to,If Pac comes full bore ahead all night ,Marquez will turn his aggresion against him to a W 12 Imo. Also hope JMM's face hold's up,Great rematch and the last thing we need is a Bullshit stoppage on a cut.Pac is a force and a hard fighter with power,just think its not enough vs. Marquez skill and versatility. Just glad there rematching,great fight.
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Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 2 Poll Come And Vote Guys/Girls
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
I don't know about this fight. Marquez is more aggressive now partly because I think Golden Boy is pushing him to be more "exciting" to appeal to the Mexican community. The thing that worries me about Marquez is that he could have easily counter-punched Barrera and fought a much smarter fight like he usually does and EASILY cruised to a decision but he wanted to go life and death with Barrera to prove that he's not just a counter puncher. If JMM goes back to the way he used to box effectively and counterpunch, he wins a close decision. If he comes with that same macho style that he used against Barrera, he's getting KTFO.
no sense of bias, you deserve a :coolclick:
