Cotto

Just for the heck of it I watched a couple of fight last night on HBO on demand. The First was the Pavlik v. Taylor great fight, however, I just cannot warm up to Taylor's style, it just seems a bit awkward and unorthodox...the way he carries his hands just seems a little strange. He has always IMO taken to much leather in most of the fights that I have watched.

I also watched the Cotto v. Mosley fight again, and let me tell you ANYONE who thinks that Cotto would beat Mayweather is loco in the cabasa (lol). I watched a fighter ( Cotto) who is tailor made for PFB. A stalker who quite frankly takes too many shots...and to be more specific too many CLEAN shots to the head.

SSM used to be a pretty slick boxer ( so I thought), but now he kind of paws with the jab in order to slug it out....and he has little to no defense to speak of...

People want to give credit to Cotto for changing his style, and becoming a boxer during the latter part of the fight ...IMO, it showed that SSM made him change his style..the stalker became the stalked...COTTO TAKES TOO MANY SHOTS !!!!,and Mayweather is about the most accurate puncher out there right now.

If you guys remember, it was rumored that they were on the verge of stopping the Judah v Cotto fight because of the severity of the cut inside of COTTOS's mouth.....COTTO TAKES TOO MANY SHOTS!!!!.

If I have not stressed this enough it is my opinion that Mayweather beats Cotto easily because Mayweather has seen a Cotto before (the plodder/stalker/strong/flat footed fighter willing to take a couple in order to dole out a couple)...but Cotto has never seen a Mayweather..

oh, and did I mention that COTTO TAKES TOO MANY SHOTS!!!!....

(lol) remember this is just my opinion...and I know that this the millionth thread on this matter, but ummm yeah (lol)

Cotto does take a lot of unnesscery shots, it's true but in the long run, he always seems to come out on top in the end. If he get's bruised and battered, his opponent ends up looking worse. Cotto is now working on defense so a lot of what you say, will be a dead issue just like the Cotto IS CHINNY subject is. (I heard a pin drop)
Malignaggi also thought Cotto was tailor made for him and yet, Cotto not only caught Paulie, he dropped him and then kicked his @ss with one hand. No one had ever laid a glove on Paulie before Cotto did. That is how fast and slick Paulie is/was. And the beating came at the hands of a weight drained uninterested transitioning fighter who BTW had a broken hand from the fifth round.

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People want to give credit to Cotto for changing his style, and becoming a boxer during the latter part of the fight ...IMO, it showed that SSM made him change his style..the stalker became the stalked...COTTO TAKES TOO MANY SHOTS !!!!,and Mayweather is about the most accurate puncher out there right now

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Don't forget that it was Shane who had to change his style first in the 6th round.
Now you are just contradicting yourself because you are admitting that Cotto can adjust too. Wasn't Cotto a one dimmensional fighter? A one dimmensional fighter only fights one way and Cotto can change, adapt and even fight south paw. Floyd does not fair too good with south paws. Judah/Mayweather tells us that. Judah gave Floyd a hell of a fight too. Cotto has more tools and ring smart than Judah does. I am not saying Cotto will just walk all over Floyd because Floyd is slick as the snake oil he sales to the public. Honestly, I doubt Floyd has the balls to face Cotto. The longer Floyd waits, the better chances Cotto has because Floyd will start to slip in the reflex dept. Again, I don't see Floyd ever fighting Cotto and I don't think Cotto should focus on a retired chicken such as Floyd.

One more thing.

Cotto is known for his body attack and yet against Shane, Cotto never went to the body.
Oh MY! So much for the one dimensional fighter status again. heheheheeeee.

Shane is much more of an imposing physical presence than Floyd is and will ever be. That is what made Cotto change his style. Floyd may be able to KO junior welterweights who masquerade as welterweights (see Hatton), but he won't be able to do that to Cotto, nor make him go backwards like Shane did. That being said, it will be a tall order for Cotto to solve the Mayweather riddle, but he has as good a chance (I say better) than the Judahs, the Baldomirs, the Gattis, the Sharmba Mitchells, the de la Hoyas, and the Hattons.

Floyd will utterly destroy the robot that is Cotto!

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Originally Posted by winscomeez

Floyd will utterly destroy the robot that is Cotto!

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Comments like that are just retarded. At least give some reasons bud ;) makes for better reading.

FIrst of all Cotto doesn't get hit a whole lot compared to most guys who come forward and Mayweather's last opponent Ricky Hatton. Second I think Cotto is much better and block the straight type of punches Mayweather throws, while a guy like Mosley really loops his right hand to get it behind the guard. You will notice that Oscar kept his hands right in front of him because thats where most of Floyd's punches come from is straight forward.
The biggest problem besides Mayweather's obvious skill is that Cotto doesn't have the quickest movement, but he seems to time it well enough that he catches his opponents off guard when he does come forward because like Steward said against Mosley, that Cotto's body and his hands are moving at different speeds. One thing that will be interesting is that Cotto really loops his hooks to the body so he can get around the elbows, but I am interested to see if he can hit Mayweather to the head because the only hooks he gets a lot of strength behind I could see Mayweather avoiding. The punch that will suit Cotto the best besides the jab in my mind is his straight right... Oscar landed his straight right more and harder than any other punch I saw against Mayweather especially that one in the 12th or 11th round, and you see JCC land it a lot on Whitaker, anyways the point is, is that Mayweather will drop his hands once he gets comfortable with the pace and thats when Cotto's sneaky speed will not let him land the jab very often, but perhaps the right hand. The only thing is that while MOsley moves straight to avoid blows Mayweather is much better defensively and he slips underneath the jab and inside. Here is where it gets interesting because Cotto is much stronger than Hatton, and is more like Castillo in that he stays really calm in there which is IMO why Castillo was able to land punches on the inside.

All in all COtto likely wouldn't win this, but he has as good of a chance as anyone.

The strange/great thing is Cotto continues to improve.

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Cotto does take a lot of unnesscery shots, it's true but in the long run, he always seems to come out on top in the end. If he get's bruised and battered, his opponent ends up looking worse

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Not in the case of Lovemore N'Dou. Even tho he lost this fight against Cotto, he did a number on Cotto's face and walked out the ring looking un-scathed.

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Originally Posted by Ghost

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Cotto does take a lot of unnesscery shots, it's true but in the long run, he always seems to come out on top in the end. If he get's bruised and battered, his opponent ends up looking worse

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Not in the case of Lovemore N'Dou. Even tho he lost this fight against Cotto, he did a number on Cotto's face and walked out the ring looking un-scathed.

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N'Dou is tough as hell Cotto was forced to use his movement and boxing skills in that fight.

Yeah, N'Dou is tough as hell. He looked unscathed on the outside but those two broken ribs had to hurt for the next month or so. I'll take a few knots to the head before I take broken ribs.

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Originally Posted by Ghost

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Cotto does take a lot of unnesscery shots, it's true but in the long run, he always seems to come out on top in the end. If he get's bruised and battered, his opponent ends up looking worse

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Not in the case of Lovemore N'Dou. Even tho he lost this fight against Cotto, he did a number on Cotto's face and walked out the ring looking un-scathed.

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And it's fair to say that Cotto has improve a lot since the fight with N'Dou.
Cotto is great talent because of how hard was for him making 140 and fighting the way he did.
But at 147 I will not find an excuse if he looses.

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Cotto does take a lot of unnesscery shots, it's true but in the long run, he always seems to come out on top in the end. If he get's bruised and battered, his opponent ends up looking worse

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Not in the case of Lovemore N'Dou. Even tho he lost this fight against Cotto, he did a number on Cotto's face and walked out the ring looking un-scathed.

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Great observation but these African fighters who are pitch black dark, I think benefit from their dark complexion. You can't honestly say that bruises would show up, right? Hit a white man or a man with light complexion and you will see the red mark or bruise. Hit a dark man and you might have a very hard time finding the red mark or the bruise.

All and all, Lovemore N'dou was maybe Cotto's toughest opponent but Cotto showed a lot of skill in that fight and has progressed immensely since then.

It's one of the reasons why I like watching the African fighters. They just bring it from begining to end. Some might say that Paulie handled Lovemore N'dou very well. I say the ref did not let Lovemore N'dou fight on the inside. Paulie does a lot of hitting once and holding. He did it against Cotto and I know he was doing it against Lovemore N'dou. Anyway... Cotto still won and it was a great fight. African fighters are hard to dent. Love them for that.

People want to give credit to Cotto for changing his style, and becoming a boxer during the latter part of the fight ...IMO, it showed that SSM made him change his style..the stalker became the stalked...COTTO TAKES TOO MANY SHOTS !!!!,and Mayweather is about the most accurate puncher out there right now.

If I have not stressed this enough it is my opinion that Mayweather beats Cotto easily because Mayweather has seen a Cotto before (the plodder/stalker/strong/flat footed fighter willing to take a couple in order to dole out a couple)...but Cotto has never seen a Mayweather..

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If you are in the group that think that Cotto only knows to go forward and was surprised (as Mosley was) when he changed his style, I encourage you to watch a couple of tapes of Cotto's fights before becoming a champion. There you can see that he often presented a style similar as he fought at the end of the fight with Mosley. This is showing his capability of adjusting to different styles and not just being unidimensional. I believe he changed his style in the last fights trying to sell more and get big $$$ (just my opinion).

Just for my information, I would like to hear who of the fighters that Floyd had fought was a Cotto. I agree with the part of the statement that says Cotto has never seen a Mayweather, but have to disagree with the comment Mayweather has seen a Cotto.

My hope is that Cotto can fight De La Hoya and then Floyd, and all questions will be answered.

You wanna know why,because of his master-class boxing skill,pin point punching,superb defence and lightning quick feet,the guy wont be able to put his power on PBF he's to elusive a target.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

FIrst of all Cotto doesn't get hit a whole lot compared to most guys who come forward and Mayweather's last opponent Ricky Hatton. Second I think Cotto is much better and block the straight type of punches Mayweather throws, while a guy like Mosley really loops his right hand to get it behind the guard. You will notice that Oscar kept his hands right in front of him because thats where most of Floyd's punches come from is straight forward.

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Floyd did loop his right hand around Oscar's guard. Every punch in the boxing text book, Floyd throws with ease. The fight determines which punches he will use. With Hatton, there was no need for overhand and looping rights, only straight rights, jabs and left hooks.

True enough, the left hook was the key to beating Hatton, although Floyd jabbed my man really well in the first.

Lovemore was actually one of Floyd's training partners in prep for the Hatton fight, he also brought in Carlos Baldimir to test his body in sparring. Cotto is a good, young, tough fighter. But he is a plodding, flatfooted fightier who gets hit. His hand speed is above average and he keeps his chin tucked into his chest nicely. He is wide open for the uppercut when fighting in close and Floyd has a great crisp uppercut. Personally, I think Oscar should beat Cotto if they fight 1st and that will spoil the Cotto-Floyd matchup. I'd rather see Cotto fight Margo 1st and then the winner get Floyd. Margo probably want a rematch with Williams too.

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Originally Posted by Floyd_Fears_Cotto

Cotto does take a lot of unnesscery shots, it's true but in the long run, he always seems to come out on top in the end. If he get's bruised and battered, his opponent ends up looking worse. Cotto is now working on defense so a lot of what you say, will be a dead issue just like the Cotto IS CHINNY subject is. (I heard a pin drop)
Malignaggi also thought Cotto was tailor made for him and yet, Cotto not only caught Paulie, he dropped him and then kicked his @ss with one hand. No one had ever laid a glove on Paulie before Cotto did. That is how fast and slick Paulie is/was. And the beating came at the hands of a weight drained uninterested transitioning fighter who BTW had a broken hand from the fifth round.

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People want to give credit to Cotto for changing his style, and becoming a boxer during the latter part of the fight ...IMO, it showed that SSM made him change his style..the stalker became the stalked...COTTO TAKES TOO MANY SHOTS !!!!,and Mayweather is about the most accurate puncher out there right now

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Don't forget that it was Shane who had to change his style first in the 6th round.
Now you are just contradicting yourself because you are admitting that Cotto can adjust too. Wasn't Cotto a one dimmensional fighter? A one dimmensional fighter only fights one way and Cotto can change, adapt and even fight south paw. Floyd does not fair too good with south paws. Judah/Mayweather tells us that. Judah gave Floyd a hell of a fight too. Cotto has more tools and ring smart than Judah does. I am not saying Cotto will just walk all over Floyd because Floyd is slick as the snake oil he sales to the public. Honestly, I doubt Floyd has the balls to face Cotto. The longer Floyd waits, the better chances Cotto has because Floyd will start to slip in the reflex dept. Again, I don't see Floyd ever fighting Cotto and I don't think Cotto should focus on a retired chicken such as Floyd.

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Hi friend im agreed with you , you are correct. 8) 8)