What makes a good chin?

Ouma's comments quoting a recent David Haye article where he said that neither him and Enzo had good chins got me thinking.

What exactly is it that makes one fighter's chin better than another?

Is it conditioning?

Is it heart and mental toughness?

Is it the actual physical bone structure of the jaw line?

Is it the size of a fighter's neck?

I can see how conditioning and heart play a big part in a fighter getting up and carrying on when he takes a beating rather than someone who lies down at the first sign of adversity but what about one punch knockouts?

Certainly Audley Harrison, Vic Darchinyan, Jeremy Williams and Ricky Hatton for example didn't stay down through a lack of conditioning or lack of heart, they were simply knocked out and couldn't get up.

So what is it that makes Librado Andrade for example to take punch after punch to the jaw whilst another fighter might get knocked unconcious by the same blow?

I remember Joe Rogan talking about Mirko Cro Cop once and commenting on how he had a very delicate chin bone structure which could contribute to why he's been knocked out cold a few times.

Anyone think there is something in this and could you tell who is likely to have a great chin by looking at them?

Good thread :)

I think it's just down to each individual really. But poor conditioning makes you weaker in just about every department such as taking a punch so I would put that second. Not sure how the neck plays a part but it served Tyson ok to have a tree trunk for one. I think mental toughness plays a part also, you have to go into a fight thinking you are indestructable.

Floyds KO over Hatton was just perfect, you cant train to avoid punches like that. Ricky head butted the ring post because he was trying to grab Floyd, but Floyd had already gone once that shot landed. Ricky has taken much harder shots that he 'expected' to get hit with. A perfect punch seems to always do the job when you dont see it coming.

A good beard otherwise chins are boring LOL ;D

Anticipating the punch is probably the biggest factor.

Getting punched alot in the face by your parents when you're young helps develop a great chin. It helped me take a longer, more sustained beating from kids my own age for sure ;)

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Getting punched alot in the face by your parents when you're young helps develop a great chin. It helped me take a longer, more sustained beating from kids my own age for sure ;)

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Hmmmm, I always got hit in the body. No wonder I have a shit chin and are immune to body blows :P

.....a good defense or rolling with the punches can't hurt....and more importantly knowing what to do when you ARE hurt helps out

They actually did a study on this and they found that fighters with square jaw lines and thicker necks seem to have the best chins...

The neck has a lot to do with it...the fighter is able to absorb the shot better when caught on the chin..

Conditioning has nothing to do with it..there have been plkenty of guys that are greatly conditioned that have suspect chins...

Of couurse none of the above can help with a shot to the temple or behind the ear

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They actually did a study on this and they found that fighters with square jaw lines and thicker necks seem to have the best chins...

The neck has a lot to do with it...the fighter is able to absorb the shot better when caught on the chin..

Conditioning has nothing to do with it..there have been plkenty of guys that are greatly conditioned that have suspect chins...
Of couurse none of the above can help with a shot to the temple or behind the ear

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Yeah because thats the way they are mate.

....conditioning may help with the absorbtion of accumulative punishment but not with one big punch

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Yeah,the unseen shot is always the better chance of a ko shot.

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And you are???

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I don't; that picture of Hatton looking like a spokesman for the United Way is distracting ;D

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You should know by now that asking a question like that just opens the door for the whole "And you are???" or "I know you from???" deal





and it's still funny :thumb:

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I don't; that picture of Hatton looking like a spokesman for the United Way is distracting ;D

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I love Ricky mate but if I could in some way reward the photographer that took that I would ;D It's a cracker aint it?

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Yeah,the unseen shot is always the better chance of a ko shot.

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You should know by now that asking a question like that just opens the door for the whole "And you are???" or "I know you from???" deal





and it's still funny :thumb:

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Hehe, yeah bud it never grows old ;)

are there any exercises you can do, to improve ur chin? im worried bc i have lanky build when fight ready and skinny neck

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YEah we read it, we backed it up, you should be happy ;)

It'sprobably already been covered but my expierience has helped me to draw the following conclusions.

Physical fitness has a lot to do with it. A greatr fighter and close friend of mine and I had a lengthly conversation lately about shots "bouncing off you" when in peak fitness.

As does mental state and attitude.
If you don't want to get hit, when you do take a punch the pain will be amplified.

Natural pain thresholds are also a factor.
The body has a limit, there is only so much it can take before shutting down. When it comes to trauma of the cranium that limit is relatively low.

Bone structure is a factor also.
Guys with narrow necks and shoulders are more subsceptible than stockier fellas.

At the end of the day, the one way to improve your "chin" is to protect it.